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Citrix vs Terminal Services

By jburkett ·
I work in a K-12 school district. We are interested in deploying a large server farm, between 40 and 50 servers, so that we can start using thin clients district wide, extend the life of some of our older equipment, and have remote information access. The question is whether to just use MS Terminal Services, or do I need to use Citrix? We have companies trying to steer us both ways. What does Citrix bring to the table that Terminal Services doesn?t? Anyone out there in a K-12 education district have any advice?

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two cents worth....

by huios In reply to Citrix vs Terminal Servic ...

Either platform will work for you. Citrix is great, MSTS is great. Your difference may be in up front cost and also in management and continued support. You need to ask yourself "who is going to manage the system?" "Who is going to Maintain the system?" "Who is going to service and support the system in the future?" The reason you must asnwer these questions is because as far as functionality, either will work fine. As far as managebility, do you have access to people who can support it now, and in the future? If you have a good service agreement, and you have someone to manage and run the system for you, then your chioce is down to your bottomline. Will you have full time staff working and maintaining the system? How, hard is it to find a Citirx Admin vs a MSTS admin in your area? Find where you can get the best support for your system so that you don't have big head-aches in the future!

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by yrdsb-guy In reply to Citrix vs Terminal Servic ...

I would have to partially agree with Huios. First of all my experience comes from almost 2 years in the corporate field with just over 700 end uses.

We only had one Cirix guy at the start and near the end of my contract we had 3; including myself. Even the three of us could not keep up with the demand for support. It seemed that every time a new application was added it conflicted with another program.
We ended up dedicating multiple server with load-balancing for cretin application while other apps were as I like to call it ?SMOSHED? into a few servers; we ended up having 12 at my leave, each with 4 Xeon processors and 3 gigs of memory each.

Crashes were at least once a month each, and that included a weekly reboot to refresh it memory and cache.

Citrix makes life a lot easer for user management but from the server stand point the cost jumps right up their.

My suggestion would to get a Citrix admin to review exactly what you want and have them make a proposal for your board to consider.

Good luck

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What Version Of Citrix yrdsb-guy?

by Gulsath In reply to Additional Input

What version were you using when you experienced these issues? We're about to go to a Citrix envinroment and I'm now seeing posts about Citrix that I didn't see before or selectively choose to overlook.

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What Version Of Citrix yrdsb-guy?

by Gulsath In reply to Additional Input

What version were you using when you experienced these issues? We're about to go to a Citrix envinroment and I'm now seeing posts about Citrix that I didn't see before or selectively choose to overlook.

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What Version Of Citrix yrdsb-guy?

by Gulsath In reply to Additional Input

What version were you using when you experienced these issues? We're about to go to a Citrix envinroment and I'm now seeing posts about Citrix that I didn't see before or selectively choose to overlook.

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Us too

by yoram In reply to Citrix vs Terminal Servic ...

jburkett,

We run a k12 with 10 servers and just short of 1000 users. After 4 years of using Citrix we decided to open the discussion again and reconsider TS instead. The things that are easy to do with Citrix and might not be so easy with TS were web access, load balancing and seamless applications. Please let us know what progress you made with these decisions. Feel free to contact me at yoram@san.rr.com

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RE:Citrix vs Terminal Services

by satnamsingh2005 In reply to Citrix vs Terminal Servic ...

hi,
i think there are major differences between terminal services and citrix.

through TS you can not publish your desktop as well as content.application and user specfic printers can not be deployed and major advantage is that citrix may work on 10kbps tp 20 kbps.
can be connected through intranet or internet

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References

by eljefe In reply to Citrix vs Terminal Servic ...

Hello JB,
I've done deployments for both Citrix and TS. If you haven't found his website, I highly suggest heading over to Brian Madden's website and parusing his articles especially http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?ID=494 . He's one of the premier authorities on both platforms.

IMHO one of the big issues, is going to be management and deploying new apps to the farm.....Citrix wins this battle. Remember to scale out instead of up with TS and verify the compatability\performance of specialty applications. You will no doubt have to segment specialty applications to different dedicated servers. That was one of the biggest errors made in an initial deployment of TS with one of my clients.

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