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Common Deception H1 Contracting Firms are using

By mross011 ·
I recently ran into a situation that at first I thought was just an abnormally, but later I have found that it's a common practice with Overseas Contracting firms and their partners here in the US.

After interviewing several candidates for several positions, most, if not all, of the candidates were H1s. The knowledge they seemed to possess did not seem to match what their resumes showed. I finally decided on a few that were closer than others to what I needed. After working with them for several months, I have been amazed at how little all of these contractors know.

One of the contractors I decided on showed 3 years experience here in the US on multiple .NET projects. Later after his contract ended, he confided in me that he had lied on his resume and that in fact he only had just gotten in the US when I hired him and that this was his first project. Which was quite obvious after the fact, considering his skill level. (Just want to say he was a very likeable guy and he did catch on quickly). He told me that all three of his representing firms (A major Indian firm, Broker and US firm) told him he had to show at least 3 years US experience to get an interview. He also told me he argued that it was a lie and more or less told him if he wants to work in the US he had to lie on his resume.

I decided to do a little more research to see how common this is, since it appeared this was in fact very common. Turns out this was the case with almost every contractor I have looked into about this. Please don't ask for results on this survey or how I verified this. Turns out this is a common practice across firms not just this particular one I initially ran into.

The resumes are written in a manner that you can not verify the employment of the contractor at the other accounts and when asking the recruiters to verify the resume they just lie and say everyone said great things about them. Most companies who use contractors don't verify H1 status either, meaning that even though they say they have been in the US for years, in fact they only received their H1 status very recently.

H1b's are suppose to be here to supplement the "perceived" shortage of IT people here in the US. With this happening, the shortage is nonexistent because our college students are graduating with almost as much knowledge as the contractors we are bringing in. I have many more thoughts on this, but this email is not about H1s being allowed in the US, but about how they are being represented by Indian and US firms.

This is a heads up post. When interviewing, make sure you verify the candidates skills and their resume thoroughly and not just the employment history.

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How does this make H1 candidates different from any others?

by CharlieSpencer In reply to Common Deception H1 Contr ...

"The knowledge they seemed to possess did not seem to match what their resumes showed.

"... he confided in me that he had lied on his resume ... Which was quite obvious after the fact, considering his skill level.

"... the recruiters to verify the resume they just lie and say everyone said great things about them.

"When interviewing, make sure you verify the candidates skills and their resume thoroughly and not just the employment history."

Well, duh.

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Seems like a no-brainer

by mross011 In reply to How does this make H1 can ...

Definitely seems like a no brainer, but considering the deceptive tactics that were taken and the limits my customer put on me in the interview process, it's not always as easy as it seems.

This was just a warning to others to watch out and be more careful than normal process.

With normal candidates you can normally verify their employement, but when you deal with H1bs the recruitting/contracting firm won't let the candidates disclose past employeers. Starting to make sense why now.

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What doesn't make sense with your story

by jdclyde In reply to Seems like a no-brainer

is why would YOUR employer intentionally prevent you from hiring a competent employee?

Sorry, but it doesn't add up that a company would intentionally keep themselves from hiring quality employees.

Sounds like you must have crappy work life or have an ax to grind against H1's and so made the whole thing up.

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This sounds more like a flaw in your management skills

by jdclyde In reply to Common Deception H1 Contr ...

because you were too lazy to verify the employment history of someone you hired to do a job.

I would also ask why it is only H1's that you are interviewing for the positions? Again, this says more about you than the applicants.

I would be very embarrassed right now if I was you.

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Why the insult

by mross011 In reply to This sounds more like a f ...

That was all HR submitted to the posted position. If you read more carefully, the resume was written so that only the recruiters could verify it. Standard procedure for contractors.

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Sounds like a lawsuit against the recruiters then

by jdclyde In reply to Why the insult

Because they are providing you fraudulent information.

Standard procedure is to know know anything about someone your hiring? Sounds like you need a new procedure. A manager is responsible for who they hire. If the worker is good, the manager did good. If the worker is not, the manager did not do good and gets the blame instead of the credit.

Again, why only H1's? I find it unlikely that there aren't any citizens that would be interested in a tech job. Why the insult? because this is pointing at your company in a poor light, and you working at a place like that makes you part of the problem.

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Had a similar (not same) issue

by Tig2 In reply to Common Deception H1 Contr ...

The candidate was sound in his area of expertise. He provided less than half of his contracted time.

His replacement showed up two days before he expected to work. I was advised on Tuesday of the change planned (?) for Thursday.

I got caught with my shorts down on a weekend that I had planned to take off for over a year- a weekend that I would quit the job over. Because the Indian firm couldn't be honest.

I am proud to know and count as friends certain Indians. But I could say the same of African Americans, Native Americans, Caucasians, and even the French. Some of what is happening on the H1B front has reached reprehensible and continues to get worse.

We need some checks and balances. We need to understand where.

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I've had several pimps ask me to morph my resume

by Tony Hopkinson In reply to Common Deception H1 Contr ...

Had one that did it for me and then expected me to maintain his lie.

Everybody rounds up their experience, everybody treats it as continuous.

If your interviews let someone with no experience pass themselves off with more than one, you need to work on them.

A good way is what we call a sanity check.
Get them to write a function to calculate a factorial or a fibonacci sequence that validates the input.

Someone who's completely blagged their cv will get it wrong.

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Generally I Make them take a test

by mross011 In reply to I've had several pimps as ...

Normally I make the prospects take a test and write some code. Unfortunatally I am a consultant myself and the compant I work for would not allow me that luxury.

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I've worked for idiots as well

by Tony Hopkinson In reply to Generally I Make them tak ...

Aside from them not being stupid at pinning the blame for their mistakes on anyone else of course.

Get paid , go home and f***'em

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