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Computers Won't talk to each other.

By john.thierry ·
I have 2 Computers, both are running Windows'98se.Both have Ethernet cards installed and both are connected by direct cable. I have followed Brien Posey's instructions on how to set them up, but to no avail. I have read the books on it, and tried tomake them talk by using the 'ping' command, but it just keeps coming up on the other computer: "No Network Found" Everything is set up according to instructions, as stated in: 'Sharing an Internet connection through Windows 98' in PC Troubleshooter Recource Guide. What am I doing wrong? Please help!
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John.

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by MMerritt In reply to Computers Won't talk to e ...

Comment: In order to help you with this I am submitting this answer knowing it will be rejected, but that's ok so here go's. After reading your question I have to ask, if both PCs have ethernet cards which uses a twisted pair type ethernet line and you state they are connected by direct cable which uses a special serial or parallel cable to connect your home network, which is it? I will take a wild guess here and assume you have connected your two PCs to communicate on a peer type network useing the ethernet cards to share files/printers and a connection to the internet useing a cable modem.
TIP: Be sure to use a "Patch Cable" when connecting the ethernet cards between two PCs. Most books are not very clear on this. Ethernet lines commonly come "straight wired" while the patch cable has some wires "crossed" which are used for connecting hubs or NICs between two PCs.

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by MMerritt In reply to Computers Won't talk to e ...

I stand Corrected! Sorry for the confusion. Answer 2 from BudTheGrey is correct about the names and wireing differences between these two types of ethernet lines. My answer should have stated "Crossover Cable" and not "Patch Cable". For more detailed information on this subject you can download the CAT 5 Patch/Crossover Cable Creation Guide from this site. Next TIP: If the cable is not the problem, maybe it's the NIC. Can you ping the NIC from the machine it is installed in. Most NICs come withutilities to test and configure it to work and is usually availible from the manufacturer. If it's not the cable, I would check this next to rule out bad hardware or conflicts in the settings between the NICs. Good Luck!

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by BudTheGrey In reply to Computers Won't talk to e ...

If you are directly connecting these machines' ethernet cards together, without a hub or switch, then you need to use a cross-over cable. Most ethernet cables are wired straight through.

Cross-over cables can be identified by looking at the package they come in -- it will be labled "cross-over", since that kind of cable is not used nearly as often as a regular patch cable.

If it's already out of the package, look at the ends of the cable, noting the colors of the wires inside. There are 4 color pairs (orange, green, blue, and brown), each pair having a solid wire and a striped wire.

On a cross-over cable, the green and orange wires swap places from one end to the other. (assuming the wire is built to EIA specs, which most are)

HTH

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I have read and tried that with WIndows 98, and running 2 computers, Windows 98 DOES NOT SUPPORT DIRECT CONNECTION using a direct X-OVER cable. You must use a HUB. This SHOCKED ME when I first heard this. In disbelief, I had to see this for myself, I tried it with 2 WIN98 PC's directly connected via a X-OVER cable, it would not work. When I used a hub, it worked. I can't explain why this is, and it also may be related to a certain RELEASE of Win 98, i.e. Rel 1, etc..,

I would like to hear others experiences with this, because to the best of my knowledge, Win 98 is the only OS that DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS!!!
I have done this successfully with 95, and Win2K and XP.

Good Luck!!

Bapster.

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