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Connect a wireless router to the output of a wired router

By mike_flood ·
I have an associate who wants to connect a wireless router to a distant wired and wireless router.
Distant router is a Verizon Westell modem/router combo.
The new setup would be a Linksys WRT54G.
Some solutions I have read achieve this by assigning new IP addresses in the #2 router. But this then requires that the user change his network TCP/IP addresses. He is not a technical person. So requiring him to access settings is not acceptable when he is in the location of the #2 router is not good.
Any one got any suggestions?
At this point we have an 8 port switch installed with a feed from the distant (#1) router. Five wall jacks are connected to the switch but he would like to add wireless to the setup.

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By adding a second router

by Dumphrey In reply to Connect a wireless router ...

Are you trying to segment the network into another "chunk" or are you just trying to provide access for more machines in another part of the building? Do you want to keep everyone on the same address space, 192.168.1.X/24 as opposed to half being on the 192.168.2.X/24 network?
As far as design goes, are their 2 internet connections, or are you going to be sharing one connection?
If you want everyone to be on the same address space, it would be better to add a switch and a wireless access port in the remote location then a router. If you want 2 networks and only have one network connection, setting up the WAN interface of the second network to connect to one of the switchports on the first router will do the trick. You should'nt have to change network addresses, but I would check to make sure both routers are not using the same subnet. Though, if nat is working right, it SHOULD not be an issue. Though, things rarely work "by the book" for me.
As for sharing files, I can not think of an elegant solution that would work, except maybe set up a permanent VPN between the two routers, and create a the appropriate routing table entries (but I am not sure if your router has a managed routing table). Or use "service" forwarding or what ever they call it, where all traffic of a specific service type gets sent to destination X.

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thanks for the info

by mike_flood In reply to By adding a second router

Thanks very much for your reply. The prime need as it is described to me is to have access to the WWW by wireless and by wired to 5 (to wired outlets.
No file or print sharing is desired (as stated to me at this point) The WiFi access point is probably the best way to go since the 8 port switch is in place and working for web access. I've not used an AP but will look into it.

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An AP is simple

by Dumphrey In reply to thanks for the info

to set up. You plug in the cat5/rj45 and log into it based on its default ip. You set it an ip address for management purposes, and then just set the wireless security. It then passes traffic back and forth between the wired and wireless poertions of a network. A linksys wap54g can be had for $80 ish.

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easy way/hard way

by demosthanese In reply to An AP is simple

Wow dumphrey you are taking this poor guy the long way around lol. All you have to do is hook up the new wireless router to a computer directly, set the wireless however you want, turn off the DHCP and unhook it. Then take a cat5 cable from the first router and put it into one of the SWITCH ports (note: NOT the wan port)of the wireless. The wireless is just a switch anyway and the original wired router will still be hosting DHCP. works fine w/o having to go get an AP and spend the extra $ plus it expands your local wired spaces by 4 slots!

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thanks for the addnl info

by mike_flood In reply to easy way/hard way

I get a little spooked when someone says "all ya gotta do is" (grin)
That's what got me into this project to begin with.

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Ya know

by Dumphrey In reply to easy way/hard way

that is easier.... sheesh... I guess I have some odd ideas about routers floating around. But I guess its no different then using a console cable on a cisco...
Thanks for pointing that out =)

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Yep. . .looks like the way to go

by mike_flood In reply to An AP is simple

I downloaded the Linksys users guide and reviewed that. I think I'll go that way.
Thanks again for the info.

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AP works

by mike_flood In reply to An AP is simple

I found via Craigs List a local guy who had two brand new Linksys AP's.
I bought both of them for less than what I would have paid at BestBuy or Circuit City.
The AP works great. Was easy to install.
Thanks to all the people who replied with sugesstions.

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Glad to help =)

by Dumphrey In reply to AP works

As an experiment, grab a hold of a wireless router (used is fine, I recomend sticking to linksys at first to keep a familiar interface) and put it in place (creating a test network) and then get it to work, providing internet access to computers behind it. It can be frustrating, but rewarding. The advantage to this method is that you have a seperate network for wireless for traffic flow accounting if needed.

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