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Could us users start a class action lawsuit against Microsoft?

By peter.martin ·
Microsoft should be liable for the Vista DVD disk install issues, I say "class action lawsuit by us consumers, enough of this big giant corp, and I am stupid to buy it.

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All you need to do is find an attorney who would be interested.

by stress junkie In reply to Could us users start a cl ...

I would think that attorneys that handle this sort of issue have already thought about it, but you never know. Maybe you can persuade an attorney to take this approach.

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Yes says Jack from Scranton

by Jack-M In reply to Could us users start a cl ...

It's not just the 'disk install issue' it's also the fact that Vista was engineered to make it incompatible in some ways from XP and other preceding versions. MS could just as easily have made the transition seamless for all functions and apps.
I've only used a friend's copy of Vista and was sorely disappointed. I'll stick with XP till MS makes Vista right.

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Why not try:

by NOW LEFT TR In reply to Could us users start a cl ...

To troubleshoot these issues, follow these steps:
1. Make sure that you have inserted the Windows Vista disc in the correct type of drive. CD media can be read by either a CD drive or a DVD drive. However, DVD media can only be read by a DVD drive. Make sure that you have not inserted a DVD in a CD drive. If the issue is not resolved, go to step 2.
2. Inspect the Windows Vista disc for physical damage, such as for scratches or for other visible defects. If the media is defective, obtain replacement media from the place of purchase or by contacting Microsoft. If the issue is not resolved, go to step 3.
3. Make sure that the CD or DVD drive is configured as a startup device in the BIOS. To configure the computer to start from the CD or DVD drive, view the documentation that is included with the computer, or contact the computer manufacturer. If the issue is not resolved, go to step 4.
4. Make sure that the Windows Vista disc is genuine. Genuine Windows Vista discs have a hologram printed on them that says ?genuine media.? Obtain a genuine Windows Vista disc, and then try the installation again. If you have a genuine disc, go to step 5.
5. Insert a different startup disc in the CD or DVD drive, and then use that disc to start the computer. For example, try a Microsoft Windows XP CD, or try a disc that was provided by the computer manufacturer for reinstalling the operating system. If you can use a different disc to start the computer, the Windows Vista disc may be defective or damaged. If you cannot use a different disc to start the computer from the CD or DVD drive, go to step 6.
6. The CD or DVD drive may require a firmware update before the Windows Vista disc can be read correctly. Contact the manufacturer of the CD or DVD drive to obtain updates for the specific device model. If updates are available, download the update, and then upgrade the firmware on the CD or DVD drive. If the issue is not resolved, go to step 7.
7. If it is practical, try to install Windows Vista from a different CD or DVD drive. If the issue is not resolved, go to step 8.
8. Other media compatibility issues may prevent the computer from starting from the Windows Vista disc. If the disc can be accessed from an operating system that is already installed on the computer, copy the contents of the DVD or CD to a folder on the hard disk, and then try a flat installation.

Note A flat installation is a software installation that is performed from files that have been copied to a hard disk instead of from other installation media, such as a disc. You must have an additional 3 gigabytes (GB) of free disk space on the hard disk to install Windows Vista from a flat.

To install Windows Vista from a flat on the hard disk, follow these steps:
a. Right -click Start, and then click Explore.
b. Locate and then click the CD or DVD drive that contains the Windows Vista disc.
c. On the Edit menu, click Select All.
d. On the Edit menu, click Copy.
e. On the hard disk, open the folder in which you want to create the flat.
f. On the File menu, point to New, and then click Folder.
g. Type Windows Vista Flat, and then press ENTER.
h. Double-click Windows Vista Flat, and then on the Edit menu, click Paste.
i. After the files are copied from the Windows Vista disc to the "Windows Vista Flat" folder, double-click Setup.exe.
j. Follow the steps in the Windows Setup Wizard to complete the installation.

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Windows 3.0

by Jack-M In reply to Why not try:

Your reply /directions reminds me of the volumes of books that were issued with Win 3.0, 3.1 etc.

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Lifted from the MS site

by NOW LEFT TR In reply to Windows 3.0
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NOT lifted from MS

by Jack-M In reply to Lifted from the MS site

Those volumes, those heavy volumes were lifted by my strong arms when I bought a computer that had Windows pre installed.
Preinstalled because MS insisted on it.
DOS, with one small book was fine for me. I could use it today.
I wonder how many people know that those icons they click on initiate a .bat command in MS-DOS which really runs all PC's.

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couple things

by mindilator In reply to NOT lifted from MS

i think he was saying that he lifted that checklist off MS' site. we can't sue for install issues if MS provides you with information to troubleshoot it.
learning flash is the same way, as books go. there are myriad books about programming in flash, and then there's more on animating and designing, and then there's more on effects, optimization, using other languages, the list goes on. not to mention all the other programs that are flash based like flex and breeze.<br/><br/>
however, ms-dos doesn't run hardly any pcs anymore. it runs as a program on many pcs, but nobody uses it as an operating system anymore.

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I have no issue with Vista at all...Thanks Microsoft

by dan.ottman In reply to couple things

I have been using Vista since the first beta. I have since upgraded to the GA enterprise version and have not had a single issue. As a matter of fact my machine runs better, faster and more reliable now than ever before. I have installed on mutliple workstations and have not had an issue with any of them. These machines include high-end gaming machines with 512mb video boards and dual 3.8ghz processors as well as IBM tablets which state it is not supported.

Yes, I have also installed and use in a large organization in production.


May not mean much but I love it Microsoft...thanks

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Re: I have no issue with Vista at all...Thanks Microsoft

by mismeshal In reply to I have no issue with Vist ...

You know, I would compare you with a person who makes love to a bird and thinks 'There is nothing wrong with this birdy, i've been making love to it everywhere, even in crowded places and in my car.

So if it matters to you, I love making love to birds.

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Yes - I can not find a retailer that will sell a box without Vista!

by scottb144 In reply to Could us users start a cl ...

Count me in.

I bought a Gateway laptop on Feb 3rd at Office Depot with Vista installed, as that was all that was offered. Since then I have found that most of my software is not compatible with Vista.

After multiple communications with Gateway and Office Depot I have found that retailers are under an apparent "Contractual Obligation" with Microsoft to ONLY offer boxes installed with Vista, including Dell.

This is like all cars bought after February 1st MUST use Shell gasoline!!!

All of the retailers and manufacturers that I have contacted suggested selling me XP - the problem is is that it is not possible to install XP on a Vista computer as I get a "Hard disk is not installed" error when attempting to. Gateway is unwilling (Unable?) to provide me with an XP restore disk.

There is something very fishy going on...

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