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Countries in the UN against the U.S.

By Old Guy ·
Someone sent the following information to me in an email. I went to Google to try to verify the information. According to Snopes.com, http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/unvote.asp , their results were even worse (An excerpt from their page is below).

Now, I know that the U.S. tried Isolationism before and found out it didn?t work very well, for us, or for the rest of the world. And, I don?t think it would work now. However, I?m beginning to wonder, since there are so many countries that hate us and are so against us, if we should quit sending all this money to them and start using it here. I think it could very well help fix our own house to where it should be. Even if we just cut all of it in half. That way the other nations are still getting money from us but just not as much. Also, we would have a whole lot more money here to fix things. Of course, I know if we did that these other countries would start in even more loudly than they are now about how the ?U.S. should do more for us because they are so rich and we are so poor.? Well, they hate us already so what would it matter if they did start yelling louder?

Now, do I think we could or should do this? I don?t know but it sure is getting more tempting? What do you guys think?


(The email sent to me)
How they vote in the United Nations:

Below are the actual voting records of various Arabic/Islamic States which are recorded in both the US State Department and United Nations records:

Kuwait votes against the United States 67% of the time
Qatar votes against the United States 67% of the time
Morocco votes against the United States 70% of the time
United Arab Emirates votes against the U. S. 70% of the time.
Jordan votes against the United States 71% of the time.
Tunisia votes against the United States 71% of the time.
Saudi Arabia votes against the United States 73% of the time.
Yemen votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Algeria votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Oman votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Sudan votes against the United States 75% of the time.
Pakistan votes against the United States 75% of the time.
Libya votes against the United States 76% of the time.
Egypt votes against the United States 79% of the time.
Lebanon votes against the United States 80% of the time.
India votes against the United States 81% of the time.
Syria votes against the United States 84% of the time.
Mauritania votes against the United States 87% of the time

U S Foreign Aid to those that hate us:

Egypt, after voting 79% of the time against the United States, still receives $2 billion annually in US Foreign Aid.

Jordan votes 71% against the United States, and receives $192,814,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.

Pakistan votes 75% against the United States, and receives $6,721,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.

India votes 81% against the United States, and receives $143,699,000 annually.

Well, you get the idea .......

Perhaps it's time to get out of the U.N. and give the tax savings back to the American workers who are skimping and sacrificing to pay the taxes they receive as aid, and to buy their oil.
Disgusting isn't it?

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"The results of this tally were even worse (from a U.S. perspective) than the message quoted above indicates, with the countries named voting contrary to the U.S. position on U.N. resolutions an aggregate 88% of the time. (Even though India is neither Arab nor particularly Islamic, we included it in our chart because the widely-circulated e-mailed list did.)
Country Times Voted With U.S. Times Voted Against U.S. % of Votes Against U.S.
Kuwait 10 61 86%
Qatar 9 64 88%
Morocco 8 62 89%
United Arab Emirates 8 61 88%
Jordan 9 64 88%
Tunisia 8 63 89%
Saudi Arabia 7 62 90%
Yemen 9 64 88%
Algeria 9 63 88%
Oman 9 63 88%
Sudan 10 60 86%
Pakistan 9 59 87%
Libya 8 63 89%
Egypt 10 63 86%
Lebanon 7 62 90%
India 14 52 79%
Syria 7 59 89%
Mauritania 7 63 90%" http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/unvote.asp

(Note: I'm not sure how to format the table in here like it was from Snopes but you can click on the link above and read their whole page.)

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you missed an important part of that

by Jaqui In reply to Countries in the UN again ...

However, we also surveyed the U.N. voting records of several countries generally considered to be close allies of the U.S., and those results were none too impressive either. Only Israel consistently voted with the U.S.:

Country Times Voted With U.S. Times Voted Against U.S. % of Votes Against U.S.
Australia 33 26 44%
Canada 31 32 51%
Israel 56 7 11%
Japan 26 36 58%
United Kingdom 40 27 40%
France 36 31 46%


when even countries perceived to be friendly are getting close to 50% against the us on average, it really indicates that the us is screwing up in a large way.

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Or it could indicate something else

by maxwell edison In reply to you missed an important p ...
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No, actually I didn't

by Old Guy In reply to you missed an important p ...

That's the reason I posted the link so people could read the whole message.

However, that may be an even stronger point for isolationism again. (Note: as I stated earlier, no I don't think that works but it sure is tempting.)

Edited to add I knew my original post was going to really long any way so I did try to compact it.

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Sometimes The previous Administrations

by X-MarCap In reply to you missed an important p ...

Were a real Piece of work... And, John Bolton is right, The UN is a haven for those who despise the USA.

It is a horribly corrupt environment.

Cuba, Syria and Red China on human rights committees. Give me a break...

The corruption for oil for food hits Kofi Annan's family, but they didn't pay it back to the Iraqi people. The UN is a safe place for ****-ant countries to tweak the USA, and try to give the USA crap. I have met British people who still call the USA "The colonies". The Biggest problem is the USA is just about the only friend Israel has in the whole world.

Look to see how often the Arab states and Muslim countries vote against Isreal. That is the real telling story...

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Don't even go there

by Oz_Media In reply to Sometimes The previous Ad ...

The US was just as irresponsible and breached many sanctions THEY imposed as part of the OFF program. The US was encouraging small third world countries breach sanctions and trade for oil, that the US in turn was buying from them.
Just two months after the US Embassy's report to congress outlined this in a 60 page document (that was posted on the White House Site) they AMMENDED it and removed all but a few mentions of US breaches. Conveniently drilled for just over 60 pages to 22.

Why didn't your government want the information made available to US public? The document WAS provided by the US Embassy as their official report to congress.

It certainly didn't echo the Bs coming from Washington though, and the war was being justified (if they consider it justified) at the same time. Heap O shite from your government if you ask anyone with a brain.

Your country isn't all peaches and cream, trying to fend off the evil world around it, don't disillusion yourself.

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Yeah, let's go there.

by X-MarCap In reply to Don't even go there

Let's look back just one previous incumbancy to the Oval Office.

He started conflict in Bosnia, We are still there. He started conflict in Haiti, We are still there.
He tried to join conflict in Argentina, ostensibly to cool things down between Great Britain and Argentina.

Thank God the Argentinians refused to cooperate with a US presence after the Faulklans conflict... That was the last gasp of the Pro-German leftovers such as the Peronistas left over from WWII that were Argentinian Army VS what was Pro-British Navy... There is a country always devided against themselves...

Argentina was a Nazi refuge after WWII, and the Pro-German sentiment ran deep. Many Army officers from Argentina were educated at the German Kreigschool or War college. Sort of like Levenworth with Schnitzel... Understand how deep the Argentine dislike for the USA is, and you'll find socialists at every turn.

Our socialists are trying to enact the same kind of policies that has kept Argentina from becoming a great world power.

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Nice rant

by Oz_Media In reply to Yeah, let's go there.

Ridisculously wide of the topic at hand and the comments you made, even the reply I offered but still a nice rant all the same. Bit of a waste but whatever.

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I have a better answer than you would like.

by X-MarCap In reply to Don't even go there

Governments and the people in them rarely tell the truth... Would the OFF program have gotten to a previous President named Clinton, or Bush... We may never know...

How about the name of the person who told the shooter at Ruby Ridge to "Shoot the next person who walks out that door." That was a criminal act. but it is sealed for another 65+ years...

I believe it was either Janet Reno, or President Clinton. If it was either, they should have been tried alonside the shooter, even while in office... The records are sealed, and I will never know if the President gave a direct order to murder a woman and her baby, over a challenge to the legality of the IRS's existance.

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since when does disagreeing with someone mean you don't support them?

by heml0ck In reply to you missed an important p ...
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heml0ck,

by Old Guy In reply to since when does disagreei ...

thanks for posting that. I'm sure some people will look at that as dripping with sugary sentiment but I think it was a great document and said in sincerety. I wish that more people could read and look at the more positive statements such as this. Thanks, again.

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