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by sumit_acharya

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by kima

Yes, there is two sides to the coin,it really depends on what the values that person has.

When I said "CRACKERS ARE BAD" I meant the ones that don't have any values or respect for others personal info...

On the other hands there are "CRACKERS"that crack software for fun and provide it as a mean of knowledge to others..

by kima

You know the IRONIC part, yes I have the crack, but I don't have WinXP so it doesn't matter...

I get this tools from a hacking group I belong too along with all the steps taken to actually crack it....

FUNNY Hahhhh...

You want to know something else, I've been reading since I was 4 years old, and acquired my reading skills in other languages without studying them or even knowing anything about them... Hmm I read and understood ENGLISH before I spoke it... isn't that FUNNY too...

Tobe honest with you "I LOVE READING", but not novels or non-educational books....

In regards to the CRACK in not a shame of saying I have it, it's also keep at MS site, so they can get it if they want...

IF I WAS RICH,IF I HAD A BUSINESS I would buy every single software out there legally and wouln't depend on getting illegal software so I can learn it inside out and study it.

But unfortunatedly that's not the case for me and many others... If they where to give out a fair price for students even if it's limited to a few months, maybe I'll consider buying them.. I buy what I can, but I won't pay $400-$800 on software I just want to learn...

by kima

Spicy... YOU SHOULD CHECK YOUR MIND>>>>

Mine is very clear and I can assure you it has no garbage, but I don't know about yours.......

You didn't read everything huh....Did anybody ever tought you to READ everything before signing....

"IMMORAL EXCUSE" - huhhh.... yeah, yeah...whatever...you don't get the point..

Unfortunatedly, not everybody seems to know how to RESEARCH!!! Did you follow the thread or just simply reply hehhh...

I never said Killing curiosity is a "GOAL", where did you get that??? Those are two different things!!

Yeah, Yeah Dr. Mengle, so what do I have to do with his actions??? THAT'S HIS CHOICE, NOT MINE...

Huh... I barely supply him with a website, and for your info my "CONSCIENCE" is very CLEAR.. "OFFENSE" for who YOU...Sites are easy to find, why FBI is not doing anything to get them down??? Hmmm.. because they need the tools too....

BE HONEST!!! You never ever in your life done something illegal???

by sumit_acharya

yeh i want to add that everyone in his life must ahve commit illegal activities but the point how much he has learnt after that illegal activity.

and the disscusion which is going on here doesnt mean to blame anyone.

kima u r right going.
knife was made for cooking but if somebody has used it for kidnapping or for some other illegal work the nobody cant help. in the similar way hacking tools are tools that can be used by both ways.it depends on person using it.
so guys ia asked abt theway only to learn these technology not to have sucha a long discussion which seems to be useless.

sumit

by sabirkhan

i am totally Agreed with KAMI,if somebody wants to learn Hacking let him do whatever he want,he is responsible for his own Actions, he is right you cannot cover the sky with one hand,Maybe he is trying to gather information how to hack people and how can he protect himself.

by bilbo_baggins

Dude... you're like a little snot-nosed kid stirring up an Ant hill with a stick just to see the ants go crazy. Entertaining, but stupidity in the extreme.

>8)

by rdschaefer

It was not my intent to appear xenophobic, my point was simply that a language is a tool and if you are going to use a tool, learn to use it well. Since this forum is in English, let's use proper English, even if you use the Queens' (British) version. Not that I would, but if I posted in a Spanish forum I would deserve any ridicule I received because of my mistakes. As supposedly 'professional' people, we should hold ourselves to a higher standard and attempt to excel at ANYTHING we do.

Ralph

by onbliss

Hmm. I am really surprised at your logic ( or lack of it). You are comparing Apples and Oranges.
You could not have been more right when saying language is a tool. You are perfect. It is a communication tool. Its a way to communicate. One does not have to be proficient to convey one's message. I am not belittling the importance of Grammar. But if one is able to convey something by straying away, then, I would say its fine.

Well, you seem to have mastered many languages. Thats commendable and good for you. Please know that even some of the best programmers don't know all the features of a tool/language. If they are able to make a program work thats all the users care. Some programmers would use a bad alogrithm to get a job done. It might be inefficient but the job gets done.

Computer languages are far differnt from human languages.

by cgi¤001

"I could have given him the name of the .exe he needs, e-mail him personally with everything he needs, I didn't... but again it is impossible to keep the info away from him. Yes I could tell him to join a HACKING group where he could learn the tricks and nobody will care as to what he use the info or not.. Where he would not be able to read your comments and not know that what he is about to do is wrong...."
Wow, You are..., a PRO.
Why you both dont get married, and CRACK each others passwords.
About time TR interferes in this extreme anti proffesional approach. Ban this thread, ban the garbage.

by sumit_acharya

yeh ur afraid now to accept that there is a way of tackling the situations in different manner. now u dont have any more arguments which can be judged on the valid grounds so u r aferaid and have started putting the sense less points.

why dontu marry man ?
sumit

by syadm

Hi Sumit, dont be angry with them.

They are only expressing their disgust for people who is using their computer knowledge to mess up for others.
If You must crack something then i suggest that You target something that dont make You a criminal.
Yahoo is not a testrange and they will probably chase You if You violate their system.
And if You are doing this because You are curious and want go gain knowledge without inflicting any harm then You have my deepest respect for that.
But, if You do this for fun or for "the hell of it" the You will soon be out of friends.
For a cracker has no friends. And he should not have.

Best Regards

Tom

by kima

So I gave him a site once again with tools to recover passwords for MS Office, but if you click on them they are shareware or you have to buy them, only a few are freeware...

By the way, I'm already happily married, so no need to re-marry and you know what my husband is not interested in computers at all..

Also, I don't "CRACK" or "HACK" either...No time for that...just read and research..

Hmm.... Interesting...

GARBAGE TO RECOVER DOC passwords your end-users forgot... OK if you said so.... tell that to your end-users....

by whiter1

To share information for learning is one thing. However availing someone with information to assist them in commiting a crime is called "Conspericy".

by mrafrohead

I'm so unimpressed with this whole thread that it is almost saddening.

I honestly thought that TechRepublic was a site dedicated to Professionals in an attempt to better help themselves and others.

After reading 120 comments on a topic that really does belong in EFNET I have come to this opinion.

This really isn't the place. If you are looking for how to hack someone, someplace or something - use a freakin search engine and sift through all of the crap until you find what you are looking for.

One thing that is kind of important. Screwing around with this stuff may be fun, and it may get you great amounts of recognition if you are successful, but it is also VERY dangerous if you are caught. The law doesn't take hacking very lightly. Especially now with the BS Security laws that are now in place. If you are caught you could be tried as a "Terrorist" and spend the next five to twenty years of your life wearing soap on a rope.

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by dbgirl

I don't know why any of the others don't answer your posts. It can be very difficult to know what to say to you. Sometimes it seems like a waste to reply to your posts. By that I mean, there isn't much reason to post when all that can be said is "I agree".

I truly admire people like yourself who have a much deeper understanding of computer systems than I do. And on top of that, you are able to express yourself much more effectively than I can. I only hope that with a bit more time, I can acquire (and retain) as much knowledge as you appear to have.

Many times I look back at a previous post, and wonder what I could have been thinking. The problem is that I tend to respond in the heat of the moment, rather than thinking first.Thank you for contributing. I read posts like yours because I can learn from them, but I may not always have anything intelligent to say in response.

by rhizoned

Hacking points out errors in security, if you notice most of the latest WEB hacks and such they are not really damaging(except theft). If a hacker wanted to to more damage with exploits they could easily.

As for hacker tools, all admins should have them.... KNOW YOUR ENEMY and test them on your network to see if your protected. If you are a admin that does not play the role of hacker you are WORTHLESS and I would never want you handling MY data!

Orpheous

by lordinfidel

I'm not sure if you are directing this at me.
Maybe you should read some of my other posts.

I align myself with the White Hats and do security for my network.

I do understand the need for hacking ones own network to understand security.

But that was not what this person was asking.
They wanted us to give him tools so that he can hack yahoo e-mail accounts.

That is not only wrong but illegal. It serves no valid purpose of learning security.

Like another colleague stated in thisthread. Hacking is neither good nor bad. It's what you do with it that makes it such.

Secuity experts who regulary exploit systems, do so with the intent of notifying the vendor of the exploit. This was not the case in this situation.

I personally have no problem with a colleague (notice the word) hacking my network, as long as he/she tells me about it. Preferably before they do it and secure my permission. And they show me the results.

I would have a big problem of someone I don't know hacking my network for maliscious intent or even just to browse my network.

by mrafrohead

Posting open discussions of this sort in a public chat room full of "honest" professionals is not exactly the smartest of things to do. Next time you can come and visit me on EFNET and I'll help you there. But for your own safety, I wouldn't post to this thread any more.

To TechRepublic: Why would you allow this type of thread to continue on your server??? This topic isn't Information Technology and you guys know it. The gentleman with the PST file problem, that may be okay, but the original part of this topic is out of place. Shame on you!!! This is tarnishing to your reputation!!!

My final question...

What the hell is a freakin Script Kiddie??? Are you talking about Lamerz??? I've just never heard that phrase before.Also my final note:

It isn't illegal to possess the knowledge of where the crack is, distribute the web site information and make sure that the end user possesses the tool. It is just giving direction. The end user is the one who ultimately will have to make the choice if they are going to be the one to use it in a +\- way. Remember just because you take a bite out of the apple, doesn't mean that it was the right thing to do.

Any questions, send me a note personally please.

mrafrohead@yahoo.com

mrafrohead

by admin

Are persons of any age who, instead of figuring out and writing their own material, seek out those who write programs that are user friendly, sometimes with GUI's. It's kind of like an end user, but usually Script Kiddies are looking for ways to "nuke" their friends or others off AOL, or to break into others e-mail for whatever reason, or to attempt to download programs, credit card numbers etc. from business servers.

Often, but not always, these programs they get have hidden trojans etc. inthem, for instance, someone may write a program to obtain credit card numbers, leave it out for script kids to play with, and then have a much less traceable way of getting the numbers to them and let the script kid get blamed.Or, a script kid may get ther own dDOS zombies to attack their friends, only to find they are all used later in a massive political or business etc. attack. Basically, the skill level for script kids is often low while the short term power thrill is high.

Sometimes youcan spot them by phrases like:

PHEAR: 1 w!11 H$XOR j0o!!!!!

in IRC too :)

by kima

There two sides to the coin.. If you perform a criminal act, that's your responsibility and you won't have any friends but criminals, on the other hand if is just to gain knowledge and stay out of trouble, then that's different...

I like "KNOWLEDGE" a lot...and like to "HELP" others acquired that knowledge...

by kima

Less than a day in here, the site is GONE...
If you copy and paste the site it will said

"ACCESS FORBIDDEN"

Maybe is just my computer,strange...

Cute if it's true... R U GUYS HAPPY KNOW???

by sumit_acharya

yeh tom
i,m here to learn and to use the technology in the constructive way and will assure that it will be done in future

sumit

by cgi¤001

During this whole discussion, my mood changed several times: unbelieve, anger, pitty. And more. At the end? Laughing.
A happily married man, straight forwarded human being. Wooohoooo.
TR, clean up please. Can we have a forum IT PRO worth? Thank YOU.

by ms

this discussion isn`t funny and we should end it.

If someone is looking for information how to hack in to the commercial site, person witch share such information is responsible for eventual problems connected with that problem.

by franknitty69

i want to give a big shout out to every phreaker, cracker, hacker, curious george, straight up criminal who has ever hacked a website, cracked a password, got free dss, free long distance, italian leather furniture from a credit card lick.

without you technology wouldn't evolve as fast as it does. we are the close to their open, the down to their up.

and if my man wants to know how to crack yahoo mail let him know; if he doesn't do it, believe me eventually some 9-yr with a $50 doller computer with no floppy drive will.

p.s sumit i can't help you on the yahoo...keep cracking
knowledge is power...

by necromanthus

Yahoo is a great free-mail-services provider.
Go outside for brain refreshing and come back when you're done !

by timmitchell

What a hypocrite. So much for the honorable reputation you claim to hold.

May your credit card numbers be stolen and used to buy compost. May your medical records be posted on Yahoo.com. May websites you administer be hacked and redirected to Richard Simmons' homepage. May the truth come to light about what you really are, and may I never eat at the McDonalds in which you will be working.

You're known by the people you support, and the people you associate with. So, since you support and associate with dirtbags....?

by kima

I can care less what you think or feel like, and don't worry I don't work at McDonald's anymore if I did, you wouln't have to worry whether your sandwhich was pick of the floor, or if it was handle properly....

As for my credit cards, I have none, I don't believe on them, medical records I have nothing to hide as a matter of fact I spend all my elementary school at the doctors, had to have blood test every day to make sure I didn't have leukemia...had a convulsion at 8 and was telling the nurse how to take care of me...wake up almost every morning with a bleeding nose....other than that I don't have anything else...

Is there anything else you want to know.... As for my friends, I'm very very picky, not anybody can be my friend...If you drink,smoke,do drugs, make naive decisions you are out!!!! If you like learning, don't do any of the above, love to learn Xple subjects you are in!! SIMPLE...

As for my website, it has nothing wrong on it except educational sites in Xple languages & Xple subjects... so if that's anoying to you to bad... KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!!!

HYPOCRITE... can care less... As long as I'm doing my job and have good reference it doesn't matter... I have nothing to hide...nothing at all, not a shame of anything either...

EXTREMELY PROUD of what I AM TODAY... even thought I don't have a degree...and STILL GOING TOWARDS MY GOAL>>>>

NOBODY CAN GET ON MY WAY...except DEATH.. but will all die someday, when? where? how? Don't know, don't care... Live by today,prepare for tomorrow, BUT wait for tomorrow..

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