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Debunking the Myth of a Desperate Software Labor Shortage

By jkameleon ·
http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/itaa.real.html#tth_sEc2.1

Remember this, when you hear kvetching about "IT labour shortage", "IT skills shortage" and so on, for example

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&tab=nw&ie=UTF-8&q=gates+urges+computer+science&sa=N

http://www.dmreview.com/article_sub.cfm?articleId=1038111

http://www.informationweek.com/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=M4FMIE23VJKOIQSNDBGCKHSCJUMEKJVN?articleID=171202135

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there is supposed to be a shortage?

by Jaqui In reply to Debunking the Myth of a D ...

here, the only shortage is in positions available.
there are 30 thousand un-employed microsoft certified sales executives ( MCSE ) running around.

and yes, all ms certifications mean is you know how to sell ms products.
they do not mean you know anything about underlying technology.

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That was exactly my point

by jkameleon In reply to there is supposed to be a ...

> here, the only shortage is in positions available.

See my 1st link. Leading managers in industry start bellyaching about labour shortage the very moment they are unable to manage their workforce by intimidation, by layoff threats that is.

Or, more poetically speaking- they start lamenting about labour shortage the very moment the number of desperate losers per job opening falls below 250.

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MCSE stands for "Microsoft Certified Systems Engineers"

by Why Me Worry? In reply to there is supposed to be a ...

Sales Executives? Nobody spends thousands of dollars on training classes and certification exams to become stinkin' salesman of Microsoft products

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Didn't get it?

by apotheon In reply to MCSE stands for "Microsof ...

I think that was called "humor".

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Humor indeed!

by jkameleon In reply to Didn't get it?

Don't worry about oursourcing! It will actually create more jobs, more opportunities for you!

. . .

Can't find a job? Tough, but it's all your fault. Stop complaining, get some education, and all those jobs from overseas will mysteriously come back. Here, get a nice new certificate, it's only $3999!

Oh, and BTW, try to convince that brats of yours to study computer science, will ya?

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convincing the brat

by Too Old For IT In reply to Humor indeed!

I've convinced mine to pursue a career in music, either as a concert flute player or music education.

Better future for her than IT, I'll tell ya.

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Kids...

by jkameleon In reply to convincing the brat

Daughter is not a problem. Currently in high school, deciding between medicine & biology. My advice to her is gene splicing, but medicine is OK as well. Moreover, she absolutely, positively hates computers, as most of her gender. Computer science is 100% out of the question for her, I guess.


Son is a problem incarnated, Bart Simpson style. Currently he's finishing graphics art oriented high school. I hope he'll be in advertising business someday. A long term money maker, 100% guaranteed. After reading your post last night, I decided to ask him, just in case, whether he would study computer science. Answer was pretty shocking: "Yea, why not! You are making good money aren't you?"

Yea, indeed. I'm making a decent money after a 10 year drudgery, and only until my job position goes south as well. But how could I communicate this to him without bellyaching? OK, let's try...

"But you are using your computer only for playing games & chatting with your girlfriends! You'd need to learn how to program, for starters. Shall I install dotnet on your machine and show you a couple of things?"

"You mean... I would have to program? I thaught I'd just do things with Photoshop & Flash"

"Yea, that's the basic requirement. If you are interested in graphics, game programming, & such, you need to know some hard core mathematics & geometry as well. And I mean hard core, not that high school stuff you're having problems with all the time."

"Um..."

"Well, OK, mathematics is not that necessary, but programming is not enough, mind you. I'm making money right now not just because of I know how to program, but primarily because I know what I'm programming. I'm working in financial institution, and I took pains to learn exactly what happens to the money in there. How it goes in, where it gets out, what happens in between, which administrator does what, rules, everything. Pure tedium, nobody wants to learn such things, and that's why they are well paid. You don't get paid for fancy stuff everybody wants to do."

"Oh..."

Hope that does it.

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not true

by cburgess In reply to Humor indeed!

The issue is salary levels as the chief motivation for offshoring jobs. There are other factors, but education level isn't the real issue.

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and

by Jaqui In reply to MCSE stands for "Microsof ...

all you have to do is pick answers in the exam that best sell ms and you pass the exam, getting your mcse.

a university networking fellow coined the sales executive after he did exactly that in writing the exams.

hmm answers that sell ms products will get you a certificate. guess that is selling ms products.

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I agree

by eM DuBYaH In reply to MCSE stands for "Microsof ...

First of all, it seems like the only people who crack on MCSE's or any other certification for that matter, are the ones that aren't certified. Not that they are incapable or untalented in the field, but it seems as if there is a jealousy that they aren't certified. I hold 11 low to midlevel certifications and in the coming year will be upgrading my MCSA to MCSE & MCDBA. Why? Because it will open doors. And *YES* the training DEFINATELY teaches underlying technologies. My challenge to the person cracking on the cert: "TRAIN AND GET CERTIFIED and THENNNN, tell me what is or isn't understood!"

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