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By netbroker ·
Somehow after installing Office97 suite and upgrading to Outlook 98, I rebooted my machine and could not login with the default user ID and password. vey odd, it said my domain did not exist anymore? I am a cable modem user(residential) and PC Identification is not my domain. but the error said "login not available now, domain xxxxx is missing". I have never seen this, and I cannot login to the PC, as the default is the administrator password on w2K pro.
is there a way to get windows to boot without the password and fix, uninstall Outlook or reinsert the proper domain, recofigure protocals?
something with Outlook 98 stripped it.
any ideas would be appreciated, that may troubleshoot.
This has never occurreed with win9x
and win2k pro has been stable up to today.
thanks.

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by Jolly Roger In reply to default password in w2k

When you get the opening dialog box and Press CTRL/ALT/DELETE, does the logon dialog box have three lines or two? If two, click on the OPTIONS button. This should reveal a third line named "Log on to". This line should contain "xxxxxx (this computer", where xxxxxx is the name of the WIN2K computer. If anything else appears in that line, click the down arrow at the right end of the line and choose "xxxxx (this computer)" from the pull-down list, enter/confirm the Username and Password information in the first two lines and click on the OK button. Let us know what happens. Good luck!

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by netbroker In reply to default password in w2k

I only have the two lines and no pull down menu to choose this computername XXX or the domain, the option has been stripped I guess by Outlook98. I know what you mean typically with w2k you get three lines with the Option button you can have theoptions to login.
the option I have is the bullet to dial and login, I choose Options tab and clicl and it takes it away. I am missing what is typical. and have only username and passwprd fields. what I cannot understand is somehow this upgrade stripped its "domain identity" which it did not have(it had a computer name for the cable network as part of a workgroup),and now you left with an unloggable PC whatsoever, with admin or any userID.
I have 200 MS w2k Pcs on a corporate domain and yes Ihave those three line options on them and the pull down OPTIONS Menu on them.I dont believe I have seen this before.
this is my home PC. Thanks for your promptness and determination.

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by William Jay In reply to default password in w2k

A standalone win2k machine IS a domain, with the name the same as \\machinename.
When you say "... xxxxx is missing", what is the xxxxx, the machinename or ?
Have you tried to start in 'command prompt only' or safe mode ?
Have you tried with network and cables and phone lines dis-connected ?

The @home, (or similar), workgroup name is a pain in the ... but, not much can be done about that, short of buying more hardware. The FQDN granted by the isp is separate issue and not related tothe NT domainname.
To subvert the win2k security features is a multi-part process, which requires a local login, and some planning ...
( http://www.jsiinc.com/tip0500/rh0554.htm )

To fix, answer the above questions first, then :

Start the machine in repair mode, F8 at startup, choose Recovery options as appropriate, have the floppy ready when it asks ...
OR
Boot the CD and start installing again, three steps in it finds the previous installation and ask if you want to repair it ...
OR
Start setup from other means, it will detect the previous installation ...
OR
Call in a technician and go to the beach for a few hours ...

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by netbroker In reply to default password in w2k

You gave some good advice and I will try booting to the CD, I tried this on another PC, and repairing did nothing but recurr the issue again, and deny login/
True the standalone machine is a domain, but not if soemthing has stripped its Identity apparently, the error specifically states, "login not available at this time, domain billybo56353 is missing". because it does not exist at this time.
xxxx is the machine name billybo56353 here; and it must be domain too, because it says it cannot find it to allow admin login, right in the error message line.

I have booted offline, unplugged/disconnected the network cable, booted to F8 and tried Command Prompt and Safe Mode they all need a login, denied here too.
I guess it is time to wipe and reinstall, if there is not boot workaround like w9x.
I would say from repair experience, this will do nothing, since it finds the old version and does nothing to get around it, ro resolve the initial boot error, leaves it the same. SO I mayblow away some folders since I can boot from 98, other partition and rip enough of it up to let repair actually work to put something back.
otherwise I guess a reload.thanks for the tips.

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by William Jay In reply to default password in w2k

There is win98 on the first partition ....!
Is the win2k partition formatted NTFS or FAT ?

If FAT, no problem, as you say you can do surgery on the system and remove the difficulty.

If NTFS, there are better boot options than win9x availableto allow surgery on NTFS file systems, (NTFS.dos).

Good luck.

**tip. If Office will be used in both and you are planning to keep both Operating Systems, then you can install once for each into the same directories to save space and confusion ...

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by William Jay In reply to default password in w2k

For the next time you create a dual boot system. Upon completion of the setup process, open a command prompt in win2k and check the environment variables, especially %path%.
I suspect that c:\windows, (the win98 windir) and others like \system and\command were appended to your win2k path statement during installation, and that is how the Office product and OS got confused.
To avoid this type of problem, insure that autoexec.bat and config.sys are absent or empty when you start to install win2k.

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