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Deleting Startup password

By Sherry ·
Hi, I recently picked up a Powermac Workgroup Server 7250, to learn PC/Mac networking. However, when I booted up the machine, I found out it was password protected.
Can anyone help me remove the password, so I can use the machine?

Thanks in advance!
Sherry

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by gdh19701 In reply to Deleting Startup passwor ...

Whenever I purchase any hardware, whether PC or Mac, I also reinstall the O/S from scratch. This way, I know there won't be any surprises.

I'm not sure if the OS you are running is OS 7.x or 8.x. I don't know if you would be able to hold down the shift key and be able to access the system that way (it disables extensions). Have you tried any simple passwords, such as "password", "123456", "admin"? Have you tried to contact the seller where you purchased it to ask what password was assigned when he/she sold it to you?

If the seller is unavailable, you may need to resort to reinstalling the O/S from scratch.

Hope this helps

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by Sherry In reply to Deleting Startup passwor ...

Hi, I think that o/s 9.0 is on the system... Some one said that I should take the cmos battery out, but I like your idea better.
I'll do as you suggested and write back!

Thanks!
Sherry

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by spsmyth In reply to Deleting Startup passwor ...

If the WGS is running OS 9, bypassing the password by
holding the shift key probably won't help, instead, if you
have a Mac OS 9 CD, do the following:

1. Insert CD
2. Restart the Mac (there will probably be a "Restart" button
on the Password dialog).
3. Hold down the "C" key on the keyboard to boot from the
CD.

Now, you have bypassed the startup drive and can initialize
it using the Erase command from the Special menu in the
Finder, or use the Disk Utility on the CD (this allows you to
partition the disk, pick the file system, etc).

To learn PC/Mac networking, however, I would pick a
system capable of running OS X, since that is the now of
Mac OS. I know a WGS 7250 costs about $75-100 but a
new eMac (G4, 700 MHz processor, 10/100 ethernet built-
in, 17" screen, CD-RW/DVD, the computer I use at home)
comes installed with OS X 10.2 (Jaguar) and costs only
$799.

Anyway, hope this helps.

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by ACSTech01 In reply to Deleting Startup passwor ...

Your first try should be to see if it's older software. Try starting up with the shift key
pressed. If this gets you to the desktop, go to Hard Disk / System Folder / Startup
Items and delete anything that looks like a password-protection program.

If this doesn't work, try forcefully quitting the program asking for a password using
Command (the key with the Apple) - Option - Escape. If a dialog box pops up asking
if you want to forcefully quit, click Force Quit.

If this doesn't do it, you either have very good pw software, or it's something built into
the system. Try starting up with the system CD, holding down the C key. Reinstall
the system software and it should work. If you don't have a System CD, you can get
one (even for the WGS) for a good price on eBay.

As a last resort, try pressing the Interrupt Switch and entering "G FINDER" without
the quotes. This will probably either cause a system freeze or do nothing, but it's worth
a try.

Or you could just contact the previous owner of th

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by Overmod In reply to Deleting Startup passwor ...

Sherry --

Exactly where is the password appearing? If you
acquired this machine from a school, it may be
running an access program (Columbia and Barnard,
for example, did this on all of their Macs I saw).
Getting around this by hacking is possible, but a bit
convoluted and not really possible (at least from me
;-}) by e-mail.

I presume you have a working CD drive in the
machine. Try booting from CD (cmd-C at startup)
and see if that lets you in, then browse the hard
drive, especially in the system folder extensions,
control panels, and privileges. Sometimes you'll find
the password in plaintext, or embedded in a file in a
readable format, but I would recommend that you
NOT delete anything without saving at least one
copy, just in case...

An alternative, particularly if you have no joy with
booting from CD, is to obtain a compatible hard
drive, install a clean copy of OS 9 on it, and upgrade
(via Apple's support site if you have Internet access)
to 9.2.2. Put this HD in the machine, boot from it, and
set your system startup to use this disk. Then
connect the old HD (I believe the 7250 has built-in
SCSI, but came with an IDE system disk whose
controller supports only one port, so you may have
to do some tinkering) so it comes up on the desktop
as a second drive. You should then be able to run
any of the original apps you want -- unless they have
their own password protections.

Be advised that many colleges don't put primary
applications on the disk at all -- they have links to
things like Novell application servers. These require
passwords, but of course it won't do you much good
even if you crack them... ;}

Once you've looked at the files on the disk, you can
make a better decision on whether or not to
reformat the original HD and do a clean OS 9 install.

I will add this for completeness: Apple has
announced that all future efforts, including network
support, will be add

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by Overmod In reply to Deleting Startup passwor ...

Sherry --

Exactly where is the password appearing? If you
acquired this machine from a school, it may be
running an access program (Columbia and Barnard,
for example, did this on all of their Macs I saw).
Getting around this by hacking is possible, but a bit
convoluted and not really possible (at least from me
;-}) by e-mail.

I presume you have a working CD drive in the
machine. Try booting from CD (cmd-C at startup)
and see if that lets you in, then browse the hard
drive, especially in the system folder extensions,
control panels, and privileges.

An alternative, particularly if you have no joy with
booting from any CD available to you (some may
not work), is to obtain a compatible hard drive, install
a clean copy of OS 9 on it, and upgrade (via Apple's
support site if you have Internet access) to 9.2.2. Put
this HD in the machine, boot from it, and set your
system startup to use this disk. Then connect the old
HD so it comes up on the desktop as a second drive.

Be advised that many colleges don't put primary
applications on the disk at all -- they have links to
things like Novell application servers. That means
you may not have much use for what's on the disk
after all...


I will add this for completeness: Apple has
announced that all their future efforts, including
network support, will involve OS X (no interesting
version of which will run on your 7250 without
extensive modification). That means that you may
be much better off trying to find a G3 or similar box,
perhaps on eBay, that has a copy of OS X 10.2 or
better installed on it (the upgrades from 10.2 to
10.2.8 are all free from Apple, but the file is larger
than 82MB!) The Windows-to-Mac network issues
are supposedly much, much easier with OS X, but
DO NOT BOTHER WITH ANY OS X VERSION BEFORE
10.2!

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by bheyman In reply to Deleting Startup passwor ...

I believe the password is related to the file sharing cntrl
panel. Try to boot w/ ext. off or from the CD. If you have
the original S/N's, delete all preferences from the
system preferences folder.; You will have to re-serialize
a few things but that is the easiest method since you
are new to this. Or, you could do a clean install off the
CD and bring over what ever you need from the
previous system.

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by Murray Brydon In reply to Deleting Startup passwor ...

If it was just the File sharing control panel that was causing this then you would be able to bypass the logn by clicking cancel or pressing Escape.
If it is OS9 and is set up for multiple users then it will prompt for a password, to avoid this you have to boot from a CD and then move an extension (I think it was called multi-user startup or something similar)out of the extensions folder to the extensions(disabled) folder. Restart after that and multiple users will be turned off

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by hockey7t In reply to Deleting Startup passwor ...

you must bypass the password

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by hockey7t In reply to

IN most cases the only thing that is resonable to do is to format the disk. THen the password will obviously no longer be there.

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