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    Did you guys see this?

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    by fregeus ·

    http://abcnews.go.com/Business/sidekick-disaster-shows-datas-safe-cloud/story?id=8840420

    It was bound to happen sooner or later. That was and still is my biggest concern with cloud computing.

    I’ve worked in Banks where your money “lives” inside systems, and they are not that secured, imagine in Google`s or other clouds.

    Are you promoting cloud computing? If yes or no, tell us why.

    TCB

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    • #2822027

      No I’m not – thanks for the link –

      by deadly ernest ·

      In reply to Did you guys see this?

      I wanted to post the following two paragraphs to the web site, but they pushed me off into a place to open an account that wanted all sorts of private information – so I never posted it there. I fail to see why, to comment on a news article, I have to open an account where the first thing they must know is my date of birth, and closely followed by my email address – then terms of conditions that require I supply only true details about me and regularly check they are current and true. Take a guess who didn’t accept their terms of conditions or provide true information for them to send me BS advertising. More Cloud to mistrust.

      Sorry Michael, but the trust by fools will continue – this is the third such case of data failure within the Cloud in the last two years, and people still trust the Cloud because they are either not smart enough to learn from history or they’re dumb enough to believe the marketing people’s lies. The last such failure was due to the company closing down and not giving clients time to get their data off the company’s servers, but still a Cloud service failure.

      Data back up and security has been an issue since long before computers started – anyone read about hand written copies of bibles being handed out in the middle ages – and any Cloud service can only offer the exact same services you can use yourself, the only differences being who controls the devices and where they’re located. And this doesn’t get into the conflicts of laws between where I am and where the server is – can you image the Pentagon being happy about Defence data stored on a server in Taiwain? It’s possible in the Cloud, remember not so long back when all the Goggleanalytics checks were being passed through their server in China due to a routing error of some sort. Once data is in the Cloud we no longer have control and no longer know where it is. Don’t trust it, only fools will – and the world is full of fools.

      edit – and guess which web site just got added to my blacklist so it’s blocked from now on.

    • #2821999

      Me neither

      by tony hopkinson ·

      In reply to Did you guys see this?

      Any one who thinking with a technical bias as opposed to sales one predicted this.

      And we were right.

      Again.

    • #2821991

      Actually,

      by seanferd ·

      In reply to Did you guys see this?

      MS did recover nearly all the data. But the setup where the backups were destroyed (at least apparently) when the production system went FAIL, is a rather sad state of affairs.

      • #2821986

        And the real frightener is these people are the ones who

        by deadly ernest ·

        In reply to Actually,

        select the hardware, design the software (supposedly), and tell others how to set it up properly so that sort of thing doesn’t happen – hell, what a worry.

    • #2821987

      Gee.

      by boxfiddler ·

      In reply to Did you guys see this?

      I’m shocked. < rolls eyes >
      Not.

      • #2821984

        OH, but I LOVE watching you roll your eyes – nt

        by deadly ernest ·

        In reply to Gee.

    • #2821871

      They are promoting it because it’s fashionable at the moment

      by jkameleon ·

      In reply to Did you guys see this?

      Today it’s cloud computing, tomorrow it’ll be something else.

      When making decisions about your IT, use your brains, and consider what suits your needs best. You should NEVER, NEVER, NEVER pay attention to tech magazines, TR, CNET, and such. It’s 100% hype, all articles are paid from various “reptiles slush funds”.

      In my company, we are actually moving away from virtualization for our future projects, because management, based on recent experience, considers this a future trend. Hyped trends are usually reversed in a couple of years. Sure, we use virtual machines, for tests, to migrate stuff from decomissioned hardware, and such, but not in production. Our CIO argumented this strategy as follows: “Adding another layer increases complexity, degrades performance, and generally doesn’t really improve things, and this is what virtualization and cloud computing actually is. Adding a layer of complexity in the worst possible way.”

      I don’t know about others, but I think he certainly has a point.

      • #2821869

        wrong, it’s being promoted because some people are putting

        by deadly ernest ·

        In reply to They are promoting it because it’s fashionable at the moment

        big money into pushing it as they expect to make huge profits out of it because some idiots will believe the PR hype.

        • #2821818

          This is exactly what fashion is all about

          by jkameleon ·

          In reply to wrong, it’s being promoted because some people are putting

          IT and textile industry are similar in more aspects than one

          Geeks punching cards & stuff:

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquard_loom

          Offshoring:

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddites

          Damn… and it seemed so interesting in the 1980s… 🙁

        • #2821810

          Pushing the latest widget

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to This is exactly what fashion is all about

          is how people make a living.

          If everyone bought a computer, loaded an OS on it, dropped a few apps on it that suit their business needs and then left them alone, then they might actually become efficient and profitable.

          Much better to have to change to a new word processor because the lord knows we always need more features in a word processor, right?

          And 2 gigs of ram seems very reasonable to sum people to run a basic word processor, funny how people allow themselves to be led by their nose without a thought in the world…..

        • #2821808
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          Remember when we used Word Perfect

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to Pushing the latest widget

          That came on 6 Floppies? WP 5.1 that was and it was way too big for mere Mortals. You even had the choice of 6 different Fonts by Default and hundreds if you took the time to install them.

          And then one of those 6 Floppies was used to load a Printer Driver for the Word Processor so WP actually fitted on less than 5 1.44 MEG Floppies and required a lot less than 1 MEG of RAM.

          Yep things have certainly improved look at M$ Office costs the earth just like WP did all those years ago but now comes on a CD is over 500 MEG in Size for the Installer and horrendously large on the HDD when installed. Requires at least 512 MEG of RAM to run in any form and prefers a lot more.

          The only improvement has been the reduction in Hardware Prices from all those years ago. Now that 2 GIG of RAM costs less than the 1 MEG that we used to have installed and couldn’t actually use it all. Of course we can also now easily move data between different Office Applications but the actual Applications that we use now are not in the same class as what they once used to be.

          Sure the Clock Speeds have got faster but the actual Applications and OS have got slower and they have slowed down considerably faster than the Hardware has got faster. Hardly a step forward but we now have Pretty Pictures and lots of Eye Candy to help us do exactly the same thing. Defiant Improvement I’m Sure. :^0

          Col

        • #2821794

          Nelson’s maxims might be the answer

          by jkameleon ·

          In reply to Pushing the latest widget

          > funny how people allow themselves to be led by their nose without a thought in the world…..

          “Most people are fools, most authority is malignant, God does not exist, and everything is wrong”

          {Theodor Holm Nelson, internet pioneer, and father of Teledildonics)

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