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Do I Have to Start Smoking Again?

By cupcake ·
I relocated to the midwest after living in California for 19 years (I
know, that's a whole 'nuther discussion).

Anyway, one of the biggest shocks is not only the amount of people
who smoke, but the amount of smokers in technology fields. In my
group alone (about 15), there are 6 smokers! And the boss calls
himself a 'part time' smoker.

So the major pain is that most, if not all, of the smokers disappear
each hour for 10 to 15 minutes. I know it doesn't take that long to
smoke a cigarette (I've been a non-smoker for almost 20 years), so I
assume there is 'networking' going on. This leaves some issues open.

One, the rest of us have to pick up their slack. They aren't around,
they don't get the calls or assignments. Two, the discussions taking
place that involve work related issues don't get communicated back to
the non-smokers until most of the issues have been decided
(remember, I said the boss was a smoker). Three, I - and the other
non-smokers - end up working at least an hour to an hour and a half
more than the smokers and we're all on a 40 hour work pay scale.
Four - and this is a real issue - if the nonsmokers take a 10 minute
break in the breakroom and we're "caught", we're instructed to return
to our cubes.

I like the job and the people I work with for the most part. It pays well
and I believe that I have a future with this company. I don't want to
leave, but I don't want to feel that I have to start smoking again to get
in on the ground floor of projects and assignments and I surely don't
want to stand around with the smokers while they smoke! I don't really
mind that they disappear or that I end up working more hours, but I
hate the double standard.

I don't want to come across looking like a whiner or troublemaker, I
want to be the go-to person, but I feel like I might be missing
something by not having access to the "smoker's club" and the boss'

Does anyone else deal with this situation?

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Sounds like you grade yourself on a curve. <nt>

by santeewelding In reply to Do I Have to Start Smokin ...
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"..looking like a whiner or troublemaker?.." - No, but...

by OldER Mycroft In reply to Do I Have to Start Smokin ...

You definitely read like a whiner. (I don't know what you look like!)

Did you enjoy getting all that off your chest?
Did you find typing all this drivel therapeutic? Yes? - Good.

If not, try voicing your opinions in the traditional fashion. Are you a man or a mouse?

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by cupcake In reply to [i]"..looking like a whin ...

Okay, I did not realize that was going to come across like
drivel... maybe its the new environment that I am in now
rather than the one I was used to in California. Perhaps
outside of that technology "bubble" the rest of the world
doesn't view smokers the same.

I'd appreciate some instruction here, Old Mycroft... ws is
the traditional fashion for voicing opinions?

BTW, neither a man nor a mouse... very much woman.
Does that make a difference?

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Some thoughts

by BFilmFan In reply to Ouch!

I would say that if the smoke doesn't bother you, take the advice of joining the boss out there.

A lot of smokers just don't think about how their addiction can affect others when they are using. And being a smoker myself, but luckily not strapped to a desk awaiting the next assignment or phone call, so my cigarette is usually a chance to get away from the "Hey Jerr?" questions of people. A lot of them will just follow me on out to the smoking area and continue to pepper me, so I figure that potentially giving them lung cancer is a fair trade for their trying to see if they can push me into a psychotic fugue state! :)

Best of luck with that issue and keep us informed of how it turns out.

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View on smokers

by jdclyde In reply to Ouch!

Out side of California, the land of anything goes and where tolerance rules the land, you never noticed how intolerant your little circle was?

Most of the world does not look down their pointed little noses at smokers.

Sure, I refuse to be in a car with someone that is smoking, but in an open room or outside, I can deal just fine. Have sensitive lungs, so if there is to much, it causes me physical pain. I choose to remove myself from the situations instead of crying about people smoking.

I work/live in an area where there is a lot of manual labor, and shop workers are just the opposite where it is 3 to 1 smokers.

As for man/mouse, it is an expression.

Can you enlighten us the difference between a woman and "very much" woman?

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the land of anything goes?

by jck In reply to View on smokers

California has some of the most stringent no-smoking rules in America, jd.

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remove yourself?

by slart58 In reply to View on smokers

I suppose I would just remove myself from my desk where I am suffocating instead of "whining"?

It actually causes you physical pain and you just allow it? Like if someone was hitting you in the face you would let them until you could get away?

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So go hang with the smoking boss

by boxfiddler Moderator In reply to Do I Have to Start Smokin ...

and his smoking underlings. Doesn't mean you have to start smoking again, just go with them. Works that way at my place of employ.

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by CharlieSpencer In reply to So go hang with the smoki ...

If they can hang out outside, so can you. Get a cup of coffee and stand upwind. Pass gas and dare anyone to say anything.

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NOT a good idea

by jdclyde In reply to Ditto.

you have a group of people, flicking their lighters, and you would stand up wind and let rip?

Can you say "KaBoom"? :0

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