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Do you run a linux DESKTOP?

By jdclyde ·
If so, is it a work system or a home system?

This will be broken down into two groups. The home use vs the work use. Please put replies in the correct section.

If you have a work system, what applications do you use and what is the primary reason you have a computer? Is the linux box standard or are you the exception?

If you have a home system, what applications do you use and what is the primary reason you have a computer? Homework for the kids? Games? Graphics?

Is this on a newer or older system?
Have you had hardware issues?
Any other problems?

Looking to do this at home as a pilot program, and then duplicate this at work if successful.

Thanks for sharing your experiences!


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Work Systems

by jdclyde In reply to Do you run a linux DESKTO ...

please post work system replies under this.


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Linux at work

by Amjad Zoghbi In reply to Work Systems


I use a linux desktop at work. Since my job involves a lot of network troubleshooting and scripting, I prefer to use linux. Tell you the truth it's doing great for me...But it does not replace windows...I still do my reports on MS word and my spreadsheets on excel and I organize my life on outlook, linux has a very specific purpose for me, and it does a great job.

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How big a part does it play in your day?

by jdclyde In reply to Linux at work

half? More? Less?

Why not use open office or something like that for your reports and such? Have you tried and they didn't work for you?

Everyone else on windows boxes?

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at least half

by Amjad Zoghbi In reply to How big a part does it pl ...

I work on linux at least half the day. I don't use open office because of compatibility issues with formatting etc. When passing reports to coworkers or taking reports from them there is no room for format incompatibilities. I tried to use openoffice but found out opening word documents messes the format.
I use linux for network troubleshooting and scripting. I also use it as a file server (samba) for sharing all reports/documents/scripts etc. it works great.

The issue as i have mentioned is compatibility with windows format. Most coworkers, especially non IT and management level use MS Windows. The network is Active Directory based and it is difficult for me to imagine it otherwise.

Linux simply doesn't scale. It is impossible to implement the security permissions available on a Windows infrastructure. I'm talking about file/print permissions, group management, policy deployment etc.

Bottom line, we are a 2500+ employee company, with a 50 IT staff team. 5 of us use linux on a daily basis, but again, not as a replacement for Windows, others use Windows exclusively, all interactive scripts are done using .NET. Linux based servers are the DNS, Web, Proxy everything else is Windows.

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by djameson In reply to at least half

I tend to agree, I have worked in mixed window/linux environments. Linux just isn't as mature as windows is. I'm not saying that it isn't as good or as stable as windows. But, I don't think it has come of age in terms of an office environment. in terms of a standalone operation like a register or a firewall etc. I think it works great, it just isn't ready for the desktop.


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I wonder

by jdclyde In reply to Maturity

do you say this because of compatablity problems with the MS Office products?

Keep in mind that MS intentionally makes it so their files are incompatable with other office products whether for windows or ANY other platform.

Is there a different issue you had in mind? I really am interested in hearing all the real world problems that real people had with using a linux desktop.

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by djameson In reply to I wonder

it goes beyond just filetypes. DNS, LDAP, Distribute authenticatin etc, some special DHCP options like 184. how about finding a tool to centralize administration of Virus software, or how about Network Shares, The tools just aren't there yet. If you want to go 50/50 We could develop the tools in a year or so.

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by Jaqui In reply to I wonder

but with a linux only solution,
you don't need the virus software.
the network shares, built right into the kernel.

it's only if you insist on using windows that you run into glitches.

and there are a number of linux based network antivirus systems to protect windows from viruses.

samba is an option to get windows and linux communicating, using widows limited capacity for networking. ( linux networking is far greater than windows, it's windows lack of recognition for networking protocols that predate windows that causes the problems )

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This is Jack's disagreement.

by apotheon In reply to Maturity

Linux is unix. The operating environment, including style of interface, filesystem structure, and so on, are all very much based on the extremely mature, well-tested, robust unix operating environment. It's about three or four times as mature as Windows, measured chronologically.

As far as the GUI is concerned, you're still talking about roughly twice as much time evolving as Windows.

It's easier to get things done in Linux than in Windows, when you know what you're doing. The fact that people used to Windows and unable or unwilling to learn a new trick (being "old dogs" long accustomed to Windows) find Linux a difficult adaptation, and the fact that the initial learning curve for Linux can be steeper than that for Windows, doesn't alter how effective and useful it is as an office desktop machine. It's very mature, with a prodigious range of available professional-grade "office productivity" applications available.

It's not for everyone, though, just as Windows isn't for everyone. The fact that it's not for you doesn't make it immature.

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by apotheon In reply to at least half

I can only assume you haven't used network management systems on Linux that cover the scalability issues to which you refer. Tools like LDAP cover that nicely. Any networking effects you can achieve on Windows, you can achieve on Linux (even security problems, but Windows security issues take a whole lot of work to duplicate in Linux and often involve using MS applications with WINE).

Compatibility concerns are, of course, perfectly valid.

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