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Don't shake my hand

By maxwell edison ·
(Due warning for the faint-hearted. Graphic descriptions might follow.)

Contrary to what others might think, I'm a very cordial and sociable kinda' guy. However, I'm beginning to think that I should stop the practice of shaking one's hand when extended in greeting.

I was standing in the restroom the other day ("standing" should be a hint), and some other guy came out of the stall ("standing" versus "the stall" should be descriptive enough). Did he go to the sink to wash his hands? Nooooooo -- right for the door and out he went. This wasn't a one-time occurrence, of course, as it's been suggested that up to twenty percent of people do not wash their hands after using the restroom. (I wonder if there's been a "stall" versus "standing" comparison?) Men are worse offenders than women, by the way. (Don't ask me how I know!) However, I wonder how accurate that twenty percent number really is? After all, who would actually admit to not washing their hands after using the restroom? And how many people might do it only when there's someone else in there to see, and not do it when they're alone? I would bet that it's higher than twenty percent.

A few minutes later I was walking down the hallway, and I see this other guy with his finger so far up his nose that you'd think he was digging for gold. According to some publication that I may or may not have read (and which may or may not be reliable, depending on your desired end conclusion), upwards of 65 percent of people pick their nose regularly throughout the day. I've yet to see a study on how many of those people wash THEIR hands afterwards. I'd also bet that more men than women pick their noses. After all, those fingernails could really do some damage! (By the way, do you know which bacteria is most prevalent on the utensils used in buffet lines?)

It's cold and flu season, you know, and I can't tell you how many people I've seen sneeze and cough into their bare hands. I've never seen one of them, however, wash their hands afterwards. And how many people **** their nose into a tissue, only to **** a huge hole right through it? My God, they may as well **** their nose right into their hands!

At the end of a day observing such behavior, I went into the break room for a cup of coffee. "Fresh coffee coming up", someone told me as he was fumbling through the filters to pick one out. On second thought, perhaps I shouldn't have a cup of coffee so late in the day -- especially since I wasn't sure that he wasn't the same guy I saw digging for gold earlier!

And just think about all those keyboards and mice you fondle each and every day!

For some reason, I've been wondering about something. What would be a good way to politely refrain from shaking one's hand? And some people, you know, are so danged pushy about it!

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ah Max... ?

by dawgit In reply to Don't shake my hand

are you feeling ok? Do I need to start worying about you? I hate to tell you this, but you're right, and what's worse, this is not new. What is it that caused you to notice this now?
The fabric of our socity is un raveling. Personal Hygene (or rather the lack of it) is only one example of that. We as a civilation are going back-ward. And have been for some time. Bad news, sad news, but true.
Welcome to the 'New World Order'.
Keep in mind that the coffee was made the same way the day before, and you drank some. It didn't kill you. It prabably won't today either.
You can't change the way it is either, because they don't / won't get it.
Sorry Max. But welcome to the 21st Century. -d

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Free nuts

by neilb@uk In reply to Don't shake my hand

Some bars put free peanuts on the bar. I guess the idea is that the salt in them will enhance the thirst and sell more beer or maybe the publican is just nice.

BUT, having seen what you've seen, I would NEVER take any peanuts from that dish!

You are OK with the coffee, you know. You're going to pass boiling water through the filter and that WILL kill anything. Except, I suppose, any thermophilic bacteria that may be evolving in adaptation to global warming.

At the other end of the spectrum there are those who are so obsessed about germs that they will only flush a stall toilet (mostly with a handle in the UK) with their feet and open the door to the stall with their hands wrapped in bogroll paper. It would seem that they are quite a large minority of the toilet-going public. These, at least, then wash their hands.

Takes all sorts.


This post has been disinfected and is free from all bacteria and most viruses including (I hope) Wildthrill.

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Boiling water to kill bacteria

by maxwell edison In reply to Free nuts

Water should be boiled for 10 minutes to kill all bacteria. The 10 minute standard is for boiling at sea level. You should boil it for an additional 1 minute per 1,000 feet (~300 meters) in altitude. (For me, that would be close to 16 minutes total.)

The boiling point of water (at sea level) is about 212 degrees Fahrenheit (100 degrees Celsius). It's slightly lower at higher altitudes, but still over 200 degrees.

The temperature of water in the brewer of most coffee makers is about 200 degrees Fahrenheit (93 degrees Celsius), just short of the boiling point (except at McDonalds when lawsuits are involved).

The typical commercial-type coffee makers will brew the coffee for only two minutes.

Therefore, brewing coffee will not kill bacteria, but only make it taste better!

P.S. When you said "free nuts" I thought you were going to wonder about what "some hands" were just scratching!

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Scientific Study or Urban Myth

by drowningnotwaving In reply to Free nuts

... that suggested a study had been performed / commission in the USA and had found that, on average, the "public" nut jar had in excess of 8 different urine samples, at least 1 sperm count and 1 e.coli ("poo").

(Note the only reason that this had been done in the USA was becuase most other nations are too f'ckin stingy and stupid to consider giving free nuts to patrons to encourage their drinking patterns).

I recall this being put up on a management presentation in Miami (I am struggling to remember why it was considered important, but I tried to search for anything similar:

I think "anecdotal" is perhaps kinder than urban myth.

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There's a couple of pubs near me

by neilb@uk In reply to Scientific Study or Urban ...

that put out nuts on Sundays. I've seen many people come straight out of the gents, scoop a handful of nuts and return to their seat and pass the nuts around. Do they wash or do they walk? Is it polite to ask?

I did point out the possibility one lunchtime and it was quite funny to see the faces of a few of my friends.

I think that from a purely microbiological standpoint, it's not so bad if someone has just been for a quick wiz, but anything else...

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quick wiz

by jdclyde In reply to There's a couple of pubs ...

Isn't urine suppose to be sterile? It is the OTHER gift you leave behind that has the bacteria that KILLS people?

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I'm agreeing with you

by neilb@uk In reply to quick wiz

Make the most of it, it doesn't happen too often!

It would be OK eating the peanuts if it WAS just a quick wiz but I generally don't study how long anyone has been in the gents so the best value judgement is to buy your own peanuts...

Free peanuts just may carry a price that you don't want to pay! ]:)

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That leads to a worse situation

by jdclyde In reply to I'm agreeing with you

Sure, the quick wasn't bad, but how do you know they wash their package that they were just handling?

And yes, if you "shake it" more than 100 times, that is considered excessive! :0

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Actually, I have seen some of the research

by jdclyde In reply to Scientific Study or Urban ...

they put a chemical on the guys hands, and then let him go to town. After a half hour, they turn on a black light and his DNA is everywhere.

What is VERY common in my area is they have baskets of fresh popcorn sitting on the tables. They bring you a basket when you sit down, one basket per table.

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Here is a visual for you

by jdclyde In reply to Free nuts

Don't remember what comedian said it, but it still makes me laugh.

"The last time I got a piece of a$$ was when my finger went through the toilet paper!"

I just don't like to think how accurate that may or may not be...... :0

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