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    Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

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    by rocketservers ·

    I am currently trying to install Exchange Server 2000 Enterprise on my PDC of my network which is running Win2k Server. I also run IIS, DHCP, and DNS off of this machine. Everything runs fine during the install until it tries to expand the Active Directory Schema. It successfully expands file 2/10 but I get a blue screen immediately when it starts to expand file 3/10. (Blue Screen is “Kernel Uncaught Exception”) I have tried running setup with “setup /forestprep” and it crashes at the same point. I saw a reference on MS’s site on how to expand the Active Directory manually when your using Active Directory Connector for Exchange 5.5 but nothing for when your installing Exchange 2000. I am really needing to get this up and running ASAP and not surprisingly MS has been of no help to this point. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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    • #3717355

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by jack republic ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      1. you need to have sp1 or sp2 installed on the server.
      2.you have to run adc setup with the /scemaonly switch. and after install adc.
      3.now you can run the /forestprep switch.

    • #3717152

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by kevin ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      I previously had a multitude of problems with the AD Schema Expansion. The culprit was a bad copy of Exchange 2000. The problems occurred repeatedly until I installed from an original cd.
      I don’t know if this would apply in your case.

    • #3722681

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by claymuir ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      After you install SPk1 and SPK2 then you must make sure that the service: remote registry service, is started and set to automatic. This is a known issue with Exchange 2000. MS has articles on the subject on their website but I do not have a articlenumber. Try that and then log on as, who else- Admin, and see if that helps. It has been the number one show stopper of Exchange 2000 installs that I know of.

      • #3722674

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by rocketservers ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        I had already read that article and made sure the service was enabled and running. Still doesnt fix the problem. Wish it was that easy.

    • #3722658

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by egilden ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      disable active directory schemas and down your dns and iis servers disconnect from the network untill it has gotten past the point you need you probably dont want to touch active directory so dont do that s tep but do the rest and give it whirl it will work just rember not have it on your ntwork for the install it will fu*k it up espicially with dns running

      • #3722632

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by rocketservers ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        I am not willing to disable Active Directory. I have made too many changes and do not want to redo them. That same computer is an Enterprise Cert. Authority and handles the certificates for smart card logins on my network. There should be another way.

    • #3722631

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by rocketservers ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      Since no one seems to have an answer that works I am going to increase the point total to maybe get more responses in hope one will work.

    • #3723662

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by poo_music ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      You need Win2k SP1 in order to install exchange 2000.

      Do make it as a practise,
      from the exchange 2000 CD, seperate the installation to:
      1) Do a forestprep
      2) Apply the domainprep
      3) Install Exchange 2000 (with a service acct that have the Enterprise Admin rights)

      This is will be easy for you to troubleshoot.

      • #3723180

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by shanghai sam ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        I already tried doing a forestprep first. The system crashes whether at the same spot whether I do a forestprep first or not. It seems to not be able to expand file 3/10 in the Active Directory Schema. Does anyone know of a “manual” way of expandingthe AD? Microsoft lists a way for “manually” expanding the AD for the AD connector but not for Exchange itself. Does the same method work for both ADC and Exchange 2000?

    • #3724469

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by duskos ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      Active Directory is number one prerequisite for successfull installation of Exchange 2000.
      Exchange 2000 extends Active Directory Schema before it is installed. For that reason it is necessary that AD configuration is healthy.
      I would direct my troubleshooting efforts to try to find what’s wrong with AD. From what you describe it apears that AD schema cannot be updated.

      I would search event logs and support articles. Some hints:

      – Are your Exchange Admin and Exchange Service accountsmembers of Enterprise Admins group?
      – Can you access your AD objects using AD Schema snap in (you need to add this snap-in separately to your mmc console).
      – Exchange includes utility AD Cleanup Wizard (adclean.exe) that cleans up AD if you decideto remove Exchange from your configuration. Perhaps you can try cleaning AD prior to installation.
      – Are all domain operations masters functional? (Domain naming master, PDC emulator, Schema master, RID master, Infrastructure master).
      – As a test I’d try to install Exchange on another computer that is part of the same domain. I’d make this computer a domain controller too.
      – Check Q271088, Q256184, Q216899.
      – Check that you don’t have orphaned domains.

      • #3613277

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by rocketservers ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        User accounts are all members of the proper groups. Adclean.exe is used for email account cleanup. All masters are functional and this is a single domain setup.

    • #3723538

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by cportman ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      Try running the forest prep from a diffent domain controller. Of course make sure you have all the correct permissions (schema admin). You don’t have to run the schem extension from the pdc. See if it crashes from another DC – remember each one has its own copy of AD. Also you could try moving the Schema Master Role to another DC (its probably on your PDC)

      Good luck

      cp

    • #3723490

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by expertpc ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      Please give serious consideration to running Exchange 2000 from another machine. Even if your DC is a quad processor running 1 gig procs and a butt load of memory, you are really asking for trouble.

      AD is required (this is for the person who saidto shut it down)

      Run your Schema changes, MAKE SURE replication between all DC’s takes place after the schema update. Then run the install on a new machine.

      P.S. Where did you get the schema modification program from? There are two versions and you have to make sure you have the correct one or you can get all kinds of problems.

      Good Hunting

      • #3639045

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by expertpc ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        Just want to clear some of the fluff other people are putting on this question.

        IIS is an integral part of Exchange 2000 and is neccesary although it does not have to be preinstalled on the machine before-hand

        You have to do the domain and forest prep before anything else. Exchange makes changes to the Schema. If this has not been done then the install “WILL” crap out as it looks for the particular classes and other AD stuff.

        Before you do the Domain and Forest Preps (from the correct CD), you need to add yourself to the Enterprise Domain Admins group and then to the Schema Admins group.

        When you actually do the install you will have to be logged in as an Enterprise Admin.

        Good Hunting

      • #3613279

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by rocketservers ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        I guess people are not reading my comments before they post. I HAVE TRIED DOING /DOMAINPREP and /FORESTPREP, THAT IS WHERE IT CRASHES.

    • #3723475

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by jjarzabek ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      I have found that most problems with installing E2K come from rights problems. On my domain I created a “god” account. It is a member of all the “admin type” accounts. From there I installed Exchange from the CD without doing any forestprep. This worked for me. When I used other acocunts like the “Administrator” it never worked. It would crash at 5,6 /10 in the expansion. Schema and Enterprise admins are the important ones to have. DHCP and DNS have nothing to do with it. I would however stop IIS. I have notices that IIS has created many conflicts on my servers when installing programs, not just E2K.

    • #3719878

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by dawsopolis ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      Ive just installed everything you listed onto a new machine and it works fine. Its a DELL poweredge 1300.

      Your going to hate to hear this, but i think you may have a hardware incompatibility, or you just need to reinstall form the ground up.

      My 2cents

      • #3723181

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by shanghai sam ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        I know I dont have a hardware incompatibility or other machines would have problems not just Exchange2k. I do not believe its actually Exchange2k that is causing the problem but yet its installation program.

    • #3719728

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by azizhakim ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      here is my input although my attempt was not on in a production enviroment.I did run into the installation problem wher my dc crashes during install.I do not recall the message exactly but bsod.The procedure I followed thereafter is thus,
      1)after reboot I went to root dir,deleted the exchange dir created during partial setup before crash & the setup log file.
      2)On member server icopied the entire ex2000 cd in dir exch2000.NB I had to buy a 100MB switch because when I attempted with my existing 10MB hub(error & exit)In your case you probably have a hig speed backbone on your DC,Anyways I attached to that dir & ran setup thereafter & it finished successfully.Also I duplicated the same scenario on another machine but this time I ftp’d my member server on another DC on a child domain I created which was attached to the hig speed i mentioned earlier & I was successful as well.In essence try the network or ftp route.In my case I am dedusing perhaps cd reader failure.I will redo this scenario & will pot results.Hope I helped

      • #3614327

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by rocketservers ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        Your answer seemed to have really good potential. I thought maybe it might have been the CDROM crapping out after you mentioned this but I tried it with no luck. I had high hopes.

    • #3723144

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by brian beisel ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      You mention running /forestprep. Are you also running /domainprep?

      You have to run setup /forestprep then setup /domainprep.

      Also, what account are you logged in as when you run setup? You have to be an Enterprise admin and you have to make sure that account has permissions to modify the schema.

      What is your AD topolgy? Are you installing this in a single domain or a child domain?

      Lastly, is there anything logged in the event viewer after the bluescreen?

      p.s. I would also recommend that you install Exchange on a member server all by itself.

    • #3723108

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by gary ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      Hi Dude

      I found a Step by step install description in my wanderings and thought it might help you toward resolution of your problem. It’s to big to post here but if you would like a copy just drop me and email

    • #3639315

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by kfarnum ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      Not an answer to your query but another query. What is the hardware configuration of your Win2K server (Make, model etc).

      • #3613283

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by rocketservers ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        Custom built machine (I built it). Dual Processor Xeon 600 mhz with 1gb RAM. 3 50gb UltraSCSI HD’s in a raid five array for data storage. 20Gb UltraSCSI hard drive for booting and program installation. All drives are NTFS.

    • #3611034

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by estebandelatorre ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      I suppose that your replication is working fine and your hardware is full compatible with w2k
      Create another account like exch2k and give admin rights, boot & install exchange with this account.
      You mention running /forestprep. Are you also running /domainprep?
      Also, what account are you logged in as when you run setup? You have to be an Enterprise admin and you have to make sure that account has permissions to modify the schema.

      AD topolgy? Are you installing this in a single domain ora child domain?

      Anything logged in the event viewer after the bluescreen?

      I would also recommend that you install Exchange on a member server …

      Good luck

      • #3613284

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by rocketservers ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        Single Domain. Nothing logged in even viewer. What is the point in suggesting /domainprep when I have already said several times that /forestprep crashes half-way through.

    • #3611748

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by jack republic ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      you have to install the administrative tools
      again by runing the adminpak.msi.now you open
      mmc choose add snapin and add the active directory schema snap in.do a right click and select operation master and check the
      “the schema may be modified on this domain controler.
      good luck !!!!

    • #3613377

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by mrandy ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      I don’t know if this will help. I have found, when things like this crops up, that I overlooked or missed something. If you go to http://www.mrandy.com/pdf, I have put up a couple of documents that may help. I can put up the entire package if youwould like. These documents are right off if Technet cd. If you read through them, you may find a step that you missed, thereby causing the problem. Hope this helps and I’ll keep looking.

      Mr. Andy 🙂

      • #3626696

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by rocketservers ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        your response didnt help much but since you went to some effort I will give you points. thanks for not suggesting fdisk/reinstall.

    • #3613214

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by qsr ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      Try doing that with another hardware-architecture. I had exactly the same problem.

      Changed the hardware – worked!

      • #3614332

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by rocketservers ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        We dont have the money to spend on another server at this time. Im beginning to wonder if I should just push to dump MS Winblows all together and switch everything over to just a straight Linux shop.

    • #3614535

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by nate dawg ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      Have you tried to install from a different installation CD. I have heard of and experienced the problem of having an original installation disk(s) that were “DOA”. Try installing from another original copy.

      • #3614326

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by rocketservers ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        Took your advice and searched all over the office for another copy of E2k Ent. I couldn’t find one but I realized our Back Office 2k CD included Exchange 2k Standard and I figured the schema changes would be the same among both so I tried it. Alas, it had the same problem and it crashed the server during the install as well.

    • #3614505

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by viro ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      format your Xeon’s 600 20GB HD, install once again w2k advanced server + SP’s, and then e2k enterprise. It will take you maximum a day.
      Unless you may wait (ASAP ;)) another 2 weeks
      for our guesses.

      • #3614334

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by rocketservers ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        Im glad you think it would take only a day to reconfigure everything on this server. I wish I worked in your environment.

    • #3613862

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by netguru ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      Remove 1 processor and try it again.

    • #3613752

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by mike (from canada) ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      One of the following is believed to be true:
      * a package file (included with the installation) is damaged and one file couldnt be read correctly,
      * your disk is screwed up and you should run scandisk and defrag. Fix any errors.
      * a dll file that is installed and is being used is either out of date or damaged.
      * the program is trying to use an invalid registry key.

      You can go to http://www.sysinternals.com to download File Monitor and Registry Monitor to see what files are used and what registry action is taking place. if you dont see “Success” beside an entry in the registry monitor or file monitor, get that file immediately (maybe from MS) and then try again. Those tools are really useful and they should be used to your advantage.

    • #3613649

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by cportman ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      When you installed the Exchange 5.5 connector did you use the one that came with Win2k or the one that came with Exchange 2000? MS says you should definatley use the one that came with Exchange 2000.

      cp

      • #3613555

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by rocketservers ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        I never fully installed the exchange connector because I dont have an existing Exchange 5.5 server. We have used Linux exclusively for our mail until just recently when some upper exec decided we needed to use more Microsoft products. I was only trying to see if the connector would fail at the same place.

    • #3614752

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by peter_ockenden ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      OK. Need some more info (email me on peter_ockenden@yahoo.com).

      1st Are you at SP2 (ok MS asked the same question).
      2. What’s the machine config? disk layout memory, pagefile, etc. (run winmsd to a file).
      3. Can you do screenshots of the steps up to the crash.

      4. What’s the dns name of your domain?

      5. How many NICs?

      6. What services are running when you start setup?

      Keep me informed! I’m a bit bored here and I have a spare server to play with!

    • #3614178

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by rocketservers ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      Following the advice of one poster I ran a check disk and a defrag. I did a thorough dish scan and everything came up fine. When I ran a defrag my drive was highly fragmented. I had it defrag and about 60% of the way through the machine crashed. When it rebooted I retried to run defrag and it said it didnt need to be defragged. I told it to defrag anyway and the machine once again crashed at about 60% complete. I have repeated this process about five times intermixing scandisk’s inbetween and is still crashes about the same spot. Any ideas anyone?

    • #3613061

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by estebandelatorre ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      Defrag is a very “light ” utility, it shouldn’t crash, unless there may be a hardware error like:
      a) bad sector
      b) cross link files
      c) RAM memory failure
      I hardly recomends you to format your HD and issue a defrag after installing Exchange. Yes,I know that this is not the easiest way to fix a problem, but may be a fast one.

      Also check:
      * a package file (included with the installation) is damaged and one file couldnt be read correctly,
      * your disk is screwed up and you should run scandisk and defrag. Fix any errors.
      * a dll file that is installed and is being used is either out of date or damaged.
      * the program is trying to use an invalid registry key.

      Remember this Microsoft Advice: Do not install any application (like exchange) on a machine with AD instaled.(use another w2k server without AD installed)

      Again, good luck

    • #3612870

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by sgibbs ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      A few basic thoughts (please don’t be insulted) Is there 30% or more free space on the drive? How much drive space is in the swap file? If there’s less than 30% free then defrag can fail. You might want to set a static size on the page file.

    • #3615427

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by thescout ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      The Win2k setup has a bug: When you upgrade the system from other win version, some feautures doesn’t work. I have upgrade my system from win 98 and IIS didn’t work and the event viewer was dull of error. The solution was: FORMAT THE DISK and install the Win 2k witout upgrade from a prior version. Now IIS is running and I have no errors in event viewer!!
      But first doing this, try to upgrade your kernel, go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com

      If it doesn’t work, FORMAT your disk and install the win 2k again!!!

      • #3621258

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by rocketservers ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        System wasnt upgraded from another OS it was a clean install. All future responses that suggest any combination of fdisk/format/low-level format will be ignored. Would you format a critical production server in your office when all EXISTING softwareon it runs fine? I think not!

    • #3615378

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by david ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      GDisk the hard drive, reset the MBR and do a low level format. This will unfortunately destroy all your data on your hard drive, but it will reinitialize your hard drive and you will be able to install your OS. BTW, if this is a production server,you might consider replacing it with a new hard drive. If it is brand new, send it back to the vender for replacement. It is not wise to depend on a hard drive that crashes your system.

      David Powers

      • #3621259

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by rocketservers ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        All future responses that suggest any combination of fdisk/format/low-level format will be ignored. Would you format a critical production server in your office when all EXISTING software on it runs fine? I think not!

    • #3615349

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by gizmoxman ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      It sounds like a hardware/memory problem. Try to test memory and cpu. There is a shareware utility “BurnInTest PRO” that does a good job. Download from http://www.passmark.com
      Make sure to increase duty cycle in configuration to 75-80%

    • #3632959

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by phil.hall ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      Clearly, something is messed up with the primary OS installation if a defrag crashes the system.

      Solution: FDISK, format, reinstall.

      Sorry …

      • #3621260

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by rocketservers ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        All future responses that suggest any combination of fdisk/format/low-level format will be ignored. Would you format a critical production server in your office when all EXISTING software on it runs fine? I think not!

    • #3630910

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by centaurus ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      Maybe your HD is not in good shape, get another disk and reinstall everything.

      Regards

      • #3630909

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by centaurus ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        P.S. Try to hear the disk when system crash
        tell us how it sounds like.

      • #3621261

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by rocketservers ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        I have more experience than most on HD crashes and no what a f$%#%ing HD sounds like when its having problems. I have sent atleast 50 HD’s back to Western Digital that were doing the WD clunk. This drive is not having ANY mechanical problems. All future responses that suggest any combination of fdisk/format/low-level format will be ignored. Would you format a critical production server in your office when all EXISTING software on it runs fine? I think not!

    • #3632349

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by jasonschambers ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      I f you go to http://www.techrepublic.com/forumqa/post_reply.jhtml?thread_id=61480&message_id=374569 you will get a full run down of your problem posted by a smart guy. Good Luck.

    • #3630625

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by tgeairn ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      What hardware and drivers are related to this? Any special disk controllers, RAID, etc? At this point, I would assume the problem is related to an I/O controller (most likely a driver problem). On subsequent defrags, did the system have to work very hard before getting to the crash point, or did it almost immediately jump to 60% and crash? {Sidenote: Can you move the paging files to new drive and force their complete recreation? I have seen various similar problems when the pagefile is corrupted.} Last option is RAM. Can you swap the RAM with new chips? Or perhaps remove some DIMMs/SIMMs whatever and try with just using the bare minimum (64 or 128MB). Last option, run the defrag after shutting down every service you can. This shouldn’t really matter, but it could make life easier on the disk controller or physical drive.

      • #3626683

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by rocketservers ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        you were partially right. a driver did have something to do with the problem but it wasnt the sole thing causing the problem. thanks for the effort.

    • #3630568

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by jasonschambers ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

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    • #3631618

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by mk admin ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      A couple things that might help.
      1. Check to make sure in your DNS settings that you append parent suffixes of the primary DNS suffix. Fill in your domain name in the DNS Suffix box. and check both boxes to register the connection in DNS and use the suffix in registration.

      2. Point your DNS primary and alternate resolvers to the same ip address as the machine you are on.

      3. Make sure that you are logged in as the account with local admin rights to the server, and the user belongs to the schema admins, enterprise admins, and the domain admins group. (I am sure you have verified this.)

      We had problems with our exchange upgrade install. It was all associated with the DNS issues. GOOD LUCK!

    • #3621307

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by tony.colgrove ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      Have you built an additional AD server and moved the Schema Master over to it. Try this then /forestprep.
      Might bypass the glitch or at least point you in a better direction as too the problem.

    • #3621792

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by centaurus ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      Why dont you kick your freakin computer (that thing inside a box) ass, it seems apropriate to you…

    • #3620949

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by kim ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      I had more or less the same problem with a W2k-server install. It kept blue-screening me during the install AND WHEN I RAN SPINRITE FROM DOS. It turned out to be some sort of overheating problem (either the CPU or the HD). I managed to do the install by removing the cover and reattaching it after the completed install.

      Just my 0.02$

      Kim S. Lohse

    • #3620460

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by phil.hall ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      Well now, since you’ve chosen to ignore the obviously correct answer of fdisk-format-reinstall, even though your system is pooched, don’t expect much further assistance. And don’t give me that line about “all the software is fine” when that obviously cannot be the case.

      All this tells me your certifications mean nothing.

      Paper MCSE, anyone?

      • #3635482

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by rocketservers ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        DNS runs fine, domain logins run fine, IIS runs fine, file sharing runs fine. OBVIOUSLY YOUR THE PAPER MCSE if you think that the solution to every problem is to f$%%ing fdisk it. Any paper mcse can fdisk, it takes a talented MCSE to find the sourceof the problem and fix it.

    • #3622116

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by dmccull2000 ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      Why dont you install exchange on a seperate server, and add it to your domain.This will not only solve your problem, but will also share your load with muliple servers, and spped up your network.

    • #3622010

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by cdeclercq ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      The corruption is on your FAT table. The best way is to pull hard drive (Assuming the partition in question isn the system drive) and put it in another machine. Copy off the contents to HD or TAPE. Open disk administrator, delete partition, recreate then format and copy contents back to it. IF this fails, then reinstall a fresh system on that drive and test it again, if that works you know it is corruption on one of your folders, so start over if possible, or copy the folders over slowly 1by 1 until you find the error re-occurs, then investigate the subfolders the same way…

      • #3635483

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by rocketservers ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        who runs FAT on a Win2k system? I hardly know of a soul who wold choose FAT over NTFS unless they were forced to because of dual boot setup.

    • #3634863

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by jfruits ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      First we need to address the defrag problem. If that gets solved, the Exchange install will probably work.

      When I have had problems with defrag, it always relates to disk/controller problems. You say you ran scandisk, so I would guess hardware or the way W2K is handling the hardware. Most of the time I find the problem to be with the drives (easiest to corrupt), so try this:

      Buy one additional drive.

      If you are running Raid-5:
      Replace one drive with the new drive and try the installagain. If it still does not work return the original drive to that location and try the next one. Do this until you have tried all drives. If one of the drives is not setup properly, the install should work when that drive is out.

      If you are using one drive:
      install the new drive, and mirror the two drives. remove the original drive and test.

      If one of these methods solves your problem, great. If not, you can call the reseller and tell him you don’t want the drive, return it, and reject my answer.

      If nothing else, this will test your fault tolerance setup and provide you with the comfort that it is working properly.
      Good luck!

    • #3634632

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by paultheuma ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      This may sound strainge but i had the same thing happen and ended up turning off the internal and external cache on the processor / installed then turned it back on after installation ?.

    • #3634587

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by steve.bertrand ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      Hello Jeremy. I wonder if you ever got an answer to this problem? I would like to make a few suggestions, if you haven’t.

      STEVE.

    • #3634437

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by wanabedrsean ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      move swapfile to raid set. Remove exchange.
      rebuild or repair active directory. should only have default users. reinstall exchange and extend schema. please tell me this is not a produciton box and if so why not buy a compaq better deal/better warranty, and if you are an engineer level person your time is more valuble than messing with a homebuilt system you should understand the difference. all systems that are not built by a tier1 vender are 3rd rate because you also have second rate tier1 vendors like dell, who puts pc parts in their low end servers. compaq designs their servers for performance reliability and lower total cost of ownership wich if you are messing with homebuilts you also would’nt understand. so your more the type that should be running linux and sqweezing the pimples on your face in this industry and not asking complex exchange questions.

    • #3635027

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by phil.hall ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      Wixdem333 said:

      “DNS runs fine, domain logins run fine, IIS runs fine, file sharing runs fine. OBVIOUSLY YOUR THE PAPER MCSE if you think that the solution to every problem is to f$%%ing fdisk it. Any paper mcse can fdisk, it takes a talented MCSE to find the source of the problem and fix it.”

      First, I am not an MCSE, and never claimed to be one, you however do claim to be one, therefore since you’re the MCSE, you should have been able to figure it out, but you failed and came here, we offer suggestions, and I only offered my suggestion after all the other intelligent options were either rejected or exhausted.

      Secondly, only a fool places all those on one server. Think like a submarine: compartmentalise. The DNS server should be on one machine; the IIS should be on one machine; the Exchange should be on one machine; and the PDC should be on its own machine as well. Putting all that on a single system is asking for trouble, which is exactly what you got. Whomever set that system up that way should be shaved, sterilized, and destroyed.

      Thirdly, I never recommend fdisk-format-reinstall unless it is needed to fix a fubar system, which this clearly is since defrag is hosing your system. Undoing all the damage created by pig-piling all the services and software on one machine would take forever, wheras the procedure to wipe and reinstall is faster, cheaper, and easier. Why continue to waste your (presumably valuable) time?

      Fourthly, since you’re an MCSE, and you haven’t found the source of the problem, nor have you been able to fix it, you clearly are not, in your own words, “talented.” Thus the previous reference to “paper MCSE” must stick.

      And, finally, using insulting comments or masked words (of the off-color kind) are not appreciated here or anywhere else where intelligent people reside. If you can’t communicate without using insult or vulgarity, then you need to go away.

      • #3618405

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by rocketservers ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        If your theory is true then the lead programmer on the Exchange team should be able to answer this question. Or he would say that the system is hosed by overloading the system. Or he would comment on why a Dual Xeon 600 with 1 gb ram and 170gb HD space couldnt handle exchange and the other services for an approx. 50 pc office. Actually he said quite something different. He responded by saying he believes I may have found a software issue and asked if it would be possible for me to send in detailed snapshots of the system with a program he sent me. He thanked me for going to the extreme I did in pursuit of a solution to the problem, because I may help them resolve this type of issue because it is something Microsoft knows about from numerous customers but has not been able to duplicate.

    • #3635797

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by jgraham ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      Just a thought…
      Depending on the size of your network I would think that the problem is memory related.
      DHCP and DNS are light applications. Exchange on the other hand is extreamly weighty. I would recommend installing as much RAM as the machine can hold. Then try the expand the active directory. Remember that the expand HAS to happen on the PDC as to accomidate Exchange. Also, remember that AD takes a LOT of disk space. Expecially the Global Catalog which you are expanding.
      I think there is also another PREP such as DOMAIN prep you must on top of the forest prep tool.

    • #3633827

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by scottsman ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      Are those scsi drives western digital??
      I had a similiar defrag problem with w2k adaptec 2100s and wd scsi drives. ended up being the firmware on the drives.

    • #3634045

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by howardr101 ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      re the Crashing during the DeFrag – have you tried loading off an NT boot disk and then running defrag off that. Could the defrag related crashes be caused by Defrag trying to defrag system / Active Directory files which are currently in use by theOS and this is just destabilising the OS giving you the crash. HTH

    • #3617346

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by nexed ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      have you tried the /All switch? i had a similar problem with my install and that seemed to fix it (although i dont use lotus or novell, i had to install everything for the install to work)

      You might want to check the schema permissions aswell.drewk~

    • #3617203

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by dthirlway ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      I dont know if this helps, but hay I get good support from all the people on Techrepublic. I have not come across the same problem. However I have done a lot of Win2K SBS Server lataly and I have found that the server we use have a problem with the onboard scssi driver and Win2K. It blue screns all the time. Even when I tried to install Win2K some times. Even some times when the backup go to start it blue screens. I recommand seeing if you can update the drivers for the scssi adaptor. Our suppliers told me there was nothing wrong with the sccsi, but a couple of months later I got an email with an updated driver and an appoligy. It solved my probs. Hope this works.

    • #3619370

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by malcolmny ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      Maybe you have too much running on that machine. I have encountered strange issues on a server of ours, that was resolved once I dedicated each server to a specific service, such as a stand alone IIS server.

      You never want to much crap running on one machine, maybe that’s where you shoud start.

      • #3626694

        Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        by rocketservers ·

        In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

        funny how I can run everything including the kitchen sink on Linux and it never phases it… you must be talking about something MS people are used to. I may have my MCSE and I may be able to fix almost anything in MS but that doesnt mean I like it.

    • #3626748

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by billc124 ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      I figure I will post a message here so that when Techrepublic closes this message since the answer will never be found I will get some points. BTW: I know that you do not want to hear this, but why was this not tested in a Lab environment before putting it into Production?

    • #3626679

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by rocketservers ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      This question was closed by the author

    • #3626677

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by rocketservers ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      So everyone knows it was a combination of things it took to fix the system. First there was a hardware incompatibility but it wasnt causing the problem it was just making it worse. The main fix came from Microsoft themself in the form of several hotfixes that will soon be released to the general public. My problem is a known issue with Microsoft whereby the installer was actually corrupting one of the schema objects thereby causing the system to crash. I dont what they changed to fix it but no everything is working beautifully on our “overloaded home built junk production box.”

    • #3626676

      Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      by rocketservers ·

      In reply to Exchange 2k Ent Install on Win2k Server

      The defrag crashes were caused by the corrupt system file.

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