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fixxing load order of apps

By tech_wiz03 ·
Ever since I installed the latest patches for win98 on it's partition and the win2K patches on it's partition I am getting a flakey application start-up problem on both op-systems.

The items on the taskbar never load in the same order consistantly. Under some load orders everything works 100%, under other orders I get "this application has cause an... and will be shut down" and still other orders lock my system entirely.

HOW CAN I FORCE APPS AT START-UP TO LOAD IN AN EXACT SEQUENCE EVERY TIME IN BOTH WIN98 and WIN2K

thanx
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by carlos.nino In reply to fixxing load order of app ...

?Have you tried to re-create the items in the taskbars?.

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by tech_wiz03 In reply to

Uninstalling and re-installing has no effect load order still the same

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by tech_wiz03 In reply to fixxing load order of app ...

No haven't tried to recreate icons in task bar. Each load sequence is different:

1) MSScheduler/Vol/weblauncher/fdefrag/incd/anti-vir/Zonealarm/Yahoo ..... works
** System safe and norton monitor run while Zonealarm is intitializing

2) vol/MSSched/ .... system locks nothing else loads

3) incd/anti-vir/fdefrag/vol/MSscheduler
** System safe runtime error

4) vol/incd/fdefrag/anti-vir/MSSCHEDULER
** Winapp caused protection fault this app will be shut down
** Internet explorer runtime error - system halted
*** next reboot does a hdd check and report corrupt boot log file in win98 or corrupt registry in win2K (registry restores from back-up)

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by Kumaran In reply to fixxing load order of app ...

The error actually indicates a possible problem with one of the application that loads at the startup. It would be better that you try to disable the particular application to load at the startup so that this doesn't affect the system performance.

You may try to disable all the background applications and load what exactly is needed. This can be done by

Start - Run and type MSCONFIG and press enter. Click the Startup tab and uncheck the unwanted applications, click apply & Ok.

NOTE: Remove the application that causes the error.

Also, it would be wise to uninstall the software and try to reinstall the software to resolve the problem.

Hope this helps.

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by tech_wiz03 In reply to

What I have running is all needed. The offending app is actually Win98! and win2K! (it's loader's are not waiting for background apps to completely initialize before continuing and not loading the apps in the designated order they are listed)
The load order is random!!!

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by tech_wiz03 In reply to fixxing load order of app ...

Point value changed by question poster.
Did careful analysis of win98 and win2K startloaders:
I can optimize with RegRun Pro and giving that I don't try to run NERO CDBurning or anything using the .NET development or runtime enviroments this app will manage memory and boot sequences such that apps can complete their installs in the order specified without crashing. unfortunately RegRun Pro uses too much memory for .NET to run and uses too many compute cycles causing cd burn trouble.
Is there another less memory hungry way to resolve load orders.
Specifically, during the program load sequence under both win98 and win2K windows starts:
tasksheduler, volcontrol, antivirus, firewall, packetwriter, incredimail, yahoochat, systemsafe all at the same time however antivirus must finish it's tests before systemsafe can start and systemsafe must complete before firewall starts and packetwriter must not start until firewall is complete

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by Mike (from Canada) In reply to fixxing load order of app ...

Access the registry. Go to Start, Run, and type REGEDIT and press enter.

double click (or access) the following keys (folders) in order: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, Software, Microsoft, Windows, CurrentVersion

Now you should see the following keys: Run, RunServices.

When you access the RunServices Key, you will see on the right all of the applications that are running just before Windows explorer starts.

When you access the Run Key, you will see all of the applications that load after Windows explorer starts.

Also, if you look in Win.ini, you will see LOAD= and RUN= lines. Applications found here will load when Windows starts.

Another spot is the "start-up menu" access by going to the start button, then programs.

my suggestion is whatever needs to be loaded first should be in the "runservices" key. Create a string value, name it whatever you want, and make it's value the complete path to the program.

then whatever needs to be loaded last can be placed in any other spot I mentioned above.

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by tech_wiz03 In reply to

Poster rated this answer.
Tried what you said and it loads vol and incd and antivir now
always in the same order but this block sometimes has other loads before and or after that the order is ignored on even using the settings. Thanx anyways

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by tech_wiz03 In reply to fixxing load order of app ...

messing with registry and win.ini fixes load order
but windows still wont wait till apps finish mission critical stuff.

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