For all the Linux gurus out there...

By Forum Surfer ·
I have experimented with linux several times. I recently inherited an IBM X200. I have Xp running on it for business purposes, and the hdd is extremely tiny (40 gigs). By the time I add Xp, slim it down, all my apps I need on the go, the obligatory music, and a small reference document collection...I have little room left.

I'd like to run an ubuntu (or any flavor for that matter) from a usb thumb drive. I like ubuntu because it just seems easier to me to run Cisco's vpn client as I am more familiar with it. I've read up on it, but I value everyone's "hands on" opinion here so I thought I'd ask. First and foremost, how speedy is Ubuntu running from a thumb drive? How much footprint will it use? Is there a way to view the documents on my regular hdd using OO? Would it just be easier to dual boot and minimize my Ubuntu install? I have some drive space, but I never like to use more than 80% so I have about 3 gigs to work comfortably with. Thanks for any advice in advance.

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I'm no guru...

by seanferd In reply to For all the Linux gurus o ...

but there are definitely ways to do this.

On the question of accessing your HDD for documents: I've never used Ubuntu much at all, but it is possible for a Linux distro to do this - I do it rather often with Knoppix. It just requires an NTFS driver for the distro, which may be in the repository if it isn't included.

You'd mount the HDD if it isn't auto-mounted (or set it to auto-mount), and make sure write permissions are enabled for the drive, if needed.

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A thought or two...

by ---TK--- In reply to For all the Linux gurus o ...

I have actually never ran Ubuntu from a thumb drive, but I wouldn't think there would be much of a difference.

You should be able to open and edit .doc .xls ect files. By default Ubuntu comes equipped with NTFS-G3, which means lol... linux doesn't care about ntfs permissions...

Since your having a space issue, I would install it on a pen drive, then mount the partition later.

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by seanferd In reply to A thought or two...

I'd have thought Ubuntu would do this. Thanks for the info.

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no problem :)

by ---TK--- In reply to Nice.

ubuntu is my distro of choice :). At this point I'm not enjoying 9.10... But then again I really have not given it a fair shot.

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If you are jsut currious about linux

by cpubymike In reply to For all the Linux gurus o ...

Ubuntu is a good place to start.

Will It fit on your drive at the present time probably not

can you make a boot able thumb stick most definitely will that thumb stick boot in every machine, perhaps make sure your computer will boot off usb first

once you have your thumbstick up and running
and you boot into ubuntu you may given the nature of this setup force it to mount the ntfs volume; you can also set this Up in your /etc/fstab. An text file for mounting file systems.

sudo mkdir /ntfs3g/windows
sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda3 /mnt/sda3 -o force

The above commands might and probably arent valid ones

sda(#) hda(#) are physical drives in *nix systems

so sda1,1 ='s the first partition on the first sata hard drive.

But you would need to make a directory first where you intend to be able to address that drive, than you use the switches and the force mount option to get it to put that drive to that address you created for that drive.

Anyway best of luck to you.

Oh Ubuntu boots fairly quick from a flash drive, provided it is not a live compressed file system.

I would put about 200 mb of swap space on your Laptops internal hard drive for your linux system Ubuntu or otherwise to use.

Also when all is said and done and you have your system the way you want it I would look up Remastersys backup it will turn your install back into a live cd/dvd image allong with your tweeks and installed programs but it will leave your personal stuff alone.

It is the most simple way to create your own linux image

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by Forum Surfer In reply to If you are jsut currious ...

I've read up on the subject well before I posted here and I realized that it was possible. I was just wanting to hear that the speed was comparable to a livecd or a regular install.

Thanks for the advice!


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Please excuse the dumb suggestion,

by CharlieSpencer In reply to For all the Linux gurus o ...

but it sounds like your real problem is that your hard drive is too small. If you're going to use a flash drive anyway, have you considered loading XP and your apps on the HD and putting your music, references, and other data on the flash drive?

I'm not sure how you're going to dual boot. If you're concerned about the space used by one OS, how are you going to fit two?

I'm surprised no one has suggested booting from a Live CD.

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No liveCD for me

by Forum Surfer In reply to Please excuse the dumb su ...

I have a few reasons not to put the data on a thumb drive. First and foremost, the music and reference data is on the north side of 19 gigs. Secondly, I prefer to keep them on the drive for ease of access. More than likely, if I have the laptop open, I'm using that reference data. The Linux side of things is more of an experiment for kicks and giggles as I haven't tried the latest release of Ubuntu.

Running a LiveCD is a bit of a problem. The x60 I have does not have a cd drive. There is a separate base that adds considerable heft with a cd-rom (no dvd) attachment. That's why I was wondering about booting from a usb drive acting as a live cd. I've seen that it can be done from research, I was just wondering if anyone has done it, and how the responsiveness was compared to an actual install or live cd. I may just forget about it altogether for now, at least until newegg has a sale on hdd's or ssd hhd's and I can pick up something 80 gigs or higher under $50. I'd rather dual boot, but space is a premium. And I'd rather run the latest openSUSE as opposed to Ubuntu as I have experimented with it more. Admittedly the only Linux install I have at the moment is a pc in my garage used for backups (on my network but without internet access). I played with it just enough to get samba working. Now I just copy backups to it. I'll occasionally enable internet access on that port so I can get reference material while working on my car, that's about the extent of my using it. If I have a distro on my laptop, I am more likely to use it much more often and familiarize myself with something new.

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by dldorrance In reply to No liveCD for me

It contains a utility to burn to a CD or to a thumb drive.

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by Forum Surfer In reply to Try PCLINUXOS

I'll research that one. With all my other studies, it gets kinda hectic at home and it is hard to find time to research all the different distros out there.

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