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Have Panasonic CF-51 Toughbook Laptop
Cpu's bios passwords can be erased by pulling motherboard battery for CMOS - How can I reset it when cant remember password

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by tig2

You don't.

If you are the registered owner of the equipment, call the Panasonic Customer Care Centre. They should be able to help you.

You won't find much additional help here. This is a professional technical forum and no one here will knowingly help you or anyone else to crack a password.

by wildmandan69

Lets get one thing straight I'm not cracking anything! Ive built and helped lots of people run into problems with CPU's - Not that have to explain anything to you or the integrity of Question - Already contacted customer care and have resolved the matter. Owner is a kid uses it for school - I would appreciate it very much if you never respond or offer your assistance any question that I might have in future - will notify managment of this site your disrespectful response

by techexec2

Let's get one thing straight:

"...Lets get one thing straight I'm not cracking anything!.."

Baloney! Your original post directly asked for help in breaking into a computer.

Notify the management of TR all you want. Knock yourself out.

by ontheropes

I understood you to mean the BIOS password while Tigger may not have the hardware experience or may have misunderstood the question. There have been a just a very few recent posts from people asking TR members to provide information/directions to get into password protected [b]programs[/b] and the like.

I realize that was [b]not[/b] the case here with your question. Tigger did not. It's as simple as that. I'm [b]certain[/b] that if she [b]had[/b] known how to help you she would've done her best because in her area's of expertise she conducts herself very professionally.

I have seen systems where the legitimate owner has changed BIOS passwords and forgotten them five minutes later and effectively locked themselves out of their own PC :0 because they made bad changes to the BIOS at the same time.

I was ready to provide the appropriate links to help you but I am glad to see you have everything sorted out.

I might also humbly suggest that in the future you post hardware and BIOS problems to the correct section of Tech Q&A where you can likely find people who have a possibly broader range of experience or may better understand your problem and where you can reward TR members who help you with [b]extremely[/b] "valuable" points. :0 :p. Many TR members go to Tech Q$A everyday trying to help people like you and I while a technical question posted in Miscellaneous may go unnoticed or be misunderstood.

Do whatever you really feel you need to do but I'm sure it was a simple misunderstanding and that TR will view it the same way.

Edited twice. For clarity and to add that Tigger actually [b]did[/b] give you the correct solution to your problem and you [b]did[/b] what she suggested to fix your issue. Kind of funny you'd be upset with that.

by jdclyde

you are acting like a 12 year old punk that got caught with a playboy.

Notify whom you will about whatever you want. Tig was not out of line with her reply as this is not the place to learn how to figure out someone elses passwords. We get a lot of people mistaking this for a hackers/crackers site and ask all kinds of dumb questions.

If you have resolved the issue, why are you in here crying about it?

You really need to grow up and take it easy. You are talking to adults now and just because you seem to be newly up from the kids table doesn't mean you know the lay of the land.

You want respect boy? You have to earn it because it isn't just given out to anyone. You have done nothing to earn respect, and your follow up post does nothing to help your case. Had you not been some dumb kid, you would have calmly explained where the missunderstanding was and restated your case to clear up any misunderstandings.

You handled yourself poorly.

by now left tr

Problems with CPU's. So you can work directly on a Central Processing Unit. WOW - that is 'most impressive', 'very impressive'.

Very well then, engage the rebels....

by tonythetiger

Laptop thefts are a big problem. Telling someone how to do something without verifying that they have the right to do it is irresponsible. Not challenging someone who asks is also irresponsible. Showing anger at a legitimate challenge is a sign either of guilt, or of immaturity.

by absolutely

The rest of us deserve to get a good laugh at your expense, so by all means, complain to the management. And while you're at it, explain the professional relevance of your nickname.

Twit.

by maecuff

you mean and horrible person! How could you be so rude? Did you get reported? Did you have to stand in the corner? Go to bed without dinner? Get a time out?

by tig2

A rare steak and a martini. :)

I know, I am a terrible person. I may lose my socks over this. I am a bad Tigger.

I'll try to do better- you know- fit in. Maybe some day I can be as good a person as whoeverheis!

by ontheropes

It's very easy for both experienced and inexperienced users to lock themselves out of the BIOS settings by creating a password and then forgetting it. They can set a password for the BIOS and the computer will still boot "wide open" so to speak because the BIOS password is transparent during the boot cycle. Unless you are trying to change the BIOS ie: change boot order, install a new hard drive, etc., you may not even know there is a password on the BIOS.

There are many BIOS specific passwords or jumper settings for clearing passwords freely available from manufacturers on their websites.

It would have been helpful for WildManDan to provide the specific BIOS for which he needed the password but as it is I don't think he had anything underhanded in mind. I do think he should've posted to Tech Q&A. Any misunderstanding could've been avoided. :0

by jdclyde

If he were so up and up, why would he right away post such an unprofessional post while crying about Tig being unprofessional?

Someone new should be a little more respectful himself, and not quite as high-and-mighty.

by techexec2

I know you meant well. You are one of the good guys.

But, this guy (wildmandan69) is completely full of sh*t. Nobody who legitimately is locked out of a computer posts the way he did, and responds to Tigger the way he did. He is a lying sack of sh*t who is trying to break into a computer. When did he "already contact customer care"? Between what hours of the day on a SUNDAY. Complete bullsh*t. He probably STOLE the computer and is trying to break into it.

What "kid" has a Panasonic Toughbook anyway. They're very expensive compared to regular notebooks.

What this guy has said doesn't pass the "smell test". Anybody who was legitimate would not do all the things he has done. Anybody legitimate would KNOW that what they are asking for is very suspicious and would not respond so aggressively. He would have responded very differently.

Anyway, you're one of the good guys. Period. And this guy is an AWEERDSAS (Tigger: OK?). :-)

P.S. This post is what I held back in my original response to this assh*le. :-)

edit: spelling and P.S.

by tig2

All this went down after I had gone to supper and then to bed. But I appreciate you standing up and calling this S***head AWEERDSAS. Especially after his response to me. What an AWEERDSAS ASFDOG!

I hope this turkey gets the message. This is the third "I forgot my password" post this week. While I am aware of the myriad ways you can get yourself out of that situation, I am also aware that calling your Customer Care Centre is the best way- they have specifics on the hardware/software that we don't have and to me, the liability issue will keep me from offering any advice- I assume that he is the legal owner but don't know who might be lurking.

I thought that I was very professional.

by ontheropes

I actually hate myself when I try to be nice sometimes and then see things in a different light later on. Seriously.

by jdclyde

It is a good quality. Don't sell yourself short.

Me? I'm less forgiving.

Your just a nicer guy than I am. :D

by techexec2

It's OK, dude.

ALL of us have been taken by the scumbags at least once when we gave them the benefit of the doubt. And those who say they haven't, are lying sacks of sh*t! :-)

by jdclyde

:D

Now it is out and everyone will see it! :p

Lucky for me, I never claimed to be nice so I don't have to be! B-)

NB issss niiiiiiiiiIIIcceeee! :^0

by jdclyde

Lets take a closer look at your alias, shall we?

Wild man? I guess if your on a bowling team or something.

Dan? Dime a dozen around here! :D

69? Yeah, that is always professional.

edited to reduce colateral damage.

by psychotech

Isn't insinuating that 'wildmandan69' is gay as an insult a little last century? Seems on par with insinuating someone is a different gender or race or has a physical disability as a 'put down'.

Doesn't mean wm69 shouldn't be called out, just perhaps without the bigotry undertones is all...

/end PC rant

by jdclyde

crying about professionalism, one should take a little look at themselves first.

Oh well, rant on as you will. This was intended to insult only one person, and you nor anyone else globably was intended as colateral damage.

In life, you make the choice on what offendes you and what doesn't.

Edited.

by danlm

roflmao, if your ripping his alias apart. I'm afraid to find out what you think of mine.

And, your right. I use the comparison Dan is like crap in a barn yard. We are all over.

Dan

by jdclyde

I have often wondered exactly what it is your "droolin" over..... :0

Lots of Dans, yeah. good thing we like them! :D

by mjd420nova

The first thing I looked at was the date the poser of the question joined. And then the question, which to me was an attempt to reset the BIOS of a laptop. Now, if removing the battery for the CMOS will reset the BIOS settings why not the password too??? And if the poser admits to having experience with hardware, why the transparent question except to elicit the kind of responses they received?? Can't we all just get along???

by kiltie

I agree mjd, anyone with the technical skills to "buil[d] and help[ed] lots of people run into problems with CPU's" should have the necessary abilities to find out the solution all by themselves, there are lots of methods out there, easy to find.

So why post?

It's suspicious alright

by techexec2

Do you have any idea how jacked up it is that you and JD are going to have a run-in over this son of a b*tch? :-)

I can see it now. You're drivin' around lookin' for JD. Meanwhile, this SOB has just picked up a HAMMER to help him break into the Panasonic Toughbook... :-)

I crack myself up! :-)

by jdclyde

What is NB going to do? Hug me? :0

:p

I have plenty of wooded lots to hid in, so he will never get his arms around me! :D

by maecuff

Well, good! I hope you've learned your lesson. Now behave, or you be forced to accept a large sum of money!

by maecuff

I forgot about this.. Last weekend when my husband and I went to Cincinnati, I went exploring. We went to a little place called Nicholsons and I tried the scotch sampler. It was MacCallens (sp?) 10 yr, 18 yr and 25 yr. I liked the 18 yr best. Although, I have to say..I'd still take Bourbon. Had some lovely Knob Creek over the weekend.

by maecuff

drink much beer or wine..it makes me sick even in small amounts. Other alcohol? I keep it to one evening on the weekend. Okay, sometimes two..but not often.

I've had my mornings when I look at the level on the bottle and cringe..few and far between for the past 5 years or so, but it still happens occasionally.

by tig2

like snit (deliberate mispelling).

I know the answer to the question. But he had already defined himself as an idiot with the way he posed the question- What BIOS, and if he had already tried the CMOS trick, the pass would have been wiped. Regardless, I have no way to know if he is adept or not, if the lappie is under warranty or not, and if he will void the warranty by opening the box. I am only a warranty certified technician for IBM and HP products so shouldn't try to advise on a Panasonic product.

And no one here to my knowledge has ever given a straight answer to a password problem. The nicest response has always been to take the box to a certified tech. When you DO see a straight answer, the poster has provided detailed information about the history of the computer and specifics on the issue along with what they have done so far. And generally they are posted in Tech QA. I had some guy, based on the response I gave this one, start harrassing me via peer mail because he wasn't getting the answers he wanted and my advice to take the box to a certified tech wasn't something he wanted to do.

Have to admit that I was a bit surprised that this got so long. Usually they go away after a post or two.

I promise that I will NEVER call you the "n" word in public! JD was being really bad.

I'm up for a little exploring! Just tell me when and where to meet!

Edited because it seemed like the right thing to do.

by jdclyde

Macallan, kept in the freezer. mmmmmm. It is only a 10 year, but for a beginner it is good.

That was the stuff that I walked by with a glass of it, and Thing One goes "Mmmmmmmm, that smells good!" :D

Been teaching them about scotch and wines. They get a sniff, and a very small sip. There is a different one I just picked up but I don't remember the name. Very affordable and very smooth.

They say a shot or glass of wine a night is good for the heart, and so the boys will ask me if I had my glass or not, and will offer to get it for me. I always make sure they make it a small glass, as it isn't to intoxicate, but to help the heart and to be enjoyed.

He asked if the scotch would be good for when I golf because he knows I drink beer and jagerbombs (mmmmm) while golfing, and had to explain drinking while thirsty is differnt than sipping to enjoy.

Lead by example. They have never seen me "buzzed", let alone drunk. I don't even finish a six pack when we golf 18, which is about five hours.

My Christmas present to myself this year is going to be https://www.glenmorangie.com/landing/index.php

Now that I don't spend $200 on the EX anymore and another $200 on her combined family, I think I can spend $60 on myself! :D I think that is a 15 year.

by mjd420nova

Yes, the CMOS battery is not easy to get to, and is soldered in place, actually not just one place, but two different spots around the motherboard. Who thought up this design??

by jdclyde

that didn't want people like you having an "easy around" for the security of their products. I can respect that effort to protect the customer.

by kiltie

and I don't mean Discussion, instead of Q&A, I mean picking TR!!!

You guys are tearing him to pieces hehehe

He should have posted in Yahoo Questions, have you seen that yet? Qs by kids, answered by kids, who pretend they know it all, and often reply with factually incorrect details.

This is the big boys (and gals) forum

PS JD, I didn't want to even hint that Google could help him, I felt that even THAT would be giving too much away....

*** wink ***

EDITED: 'cos either it is in fashion, or it's all NBs fault, my typos never used to be THIS bad ;-)

by tig2

I thought we decided that it was ALWAYS Onbliss' fault? Did that change?

Guess I didn't get the memo... :(

by danlm

lol, wellllllllllllllll. When I first got into Internet chatting about 15 years ago. I tried to think of a nick that was ummmmm, noticeable without being offensive. And I thought of a time at happy hour, which is where the idea for this nick came from.

Remember years ago, where the women all wore pads in the shoulders of their blouses? I began calling them drool pads because of the CEO of the company I worked for. He was like 6 foot 4 and would tower over all of the ladies at happy hour drooling. Lol, thus I started calling them drool pads. That carried over into my nick/alias cause I could run with it in any direction without offending people, but still being able to be a pig when the conversation ran that way. Truthfully, I probably meant drooling when I chose the nick. But, as that one twit in another topic pointed out. I can't spell, so it ended up being droolin.
Basically, it means just like the x CEO of mine was doing. lol, drooling because of good looking women.

Chuckle, so now you know.

lol

Dan

by psychotech

So let me get this straight, it?s OK to insinuate someone is gay to insult them because your ?enlightened alternative? friends do it, and to top it off, the target deserves to be called gay because he is a ?young, dumb, punk?. Huh? OH! WAIT! I see, you?re from Michigan, sorry, now I understand where you're coming from.

Oh, and I?m sure you shouldn?t find that ?offensive? because it?s just a ?taunt? not a ?michiganbashinggoingtobeatyouwithabat? response. (See how that disclaimer doesn?t really work once the insult has been hurled?)

At any rate, yes, ?taunting? someone because of their sexual orientation (or other traditional categories of social oppression, like race, gender, handicap, national origin etc.) is on par with bigotry; you are perpetuating the idea that to call someone gay is an insult ? an insult because you look down on that group as less than your own ? the definition of bigotry.

by psychotech

Gee, I guess you really are a one trick pony, anyone DARES question how righteous and infallible you are in all things and they must be GAY! Showed me by golly.

OK, let?s face it; you were so happy to get a chance to display your macho tech prowess to everybody on this list by bashing the stooped n00b ?wildmandan69? in public that you couldn?t contain yourself. Your chimp brain leaps to the quickest and easiest way to cut another down while showing how cool and with it you are ? ?I know? you think to yourself, ?I?ll say ?he has a boyfriend,? that?ll show him!?

But whoops! Someone calls you on your bigoted homophobic response, and in public and in front of your peer group that you are working oh so hard to impress none-the-less! What to do, what to do?!?! Acknowledge you were acting like a jerk, and shot your mouth off without thinking? Oh no, that?ll never do, what if the others thought you were weak and uncool (or gay!)? No, much better to continue trying to justify your doltish, bigoted, homophobic response by bashing others and accusing THEM of being the closet guilt ridden bigots! Yes! That will be brilliant!

Plus it is so very amusing you'd troll through years old posts to 'get me', go back to turning your kids onto booze and do the world a favor and DIAF.

https://www.techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=8&threadID=200703&messageID=2091804

by psychotech

congrats, you've maxed out the main thread with your inane 'everybody is gay who disagrees with me' crap, this has gotten beyond boring. As for your 'hit to close to home' comment, it's generally the biggest gay basher who is the biggest closet case. I wonder if your wife (or ex-wife if she has any brains) and kids know they're just a beard for your self-hating gay desires?

Oh, and as for 'hissy-fits', I just pointed out your poor choice of insults to use, you turned it into a giant temper tantrum, I'm guessing because your meaningless little cubicle existence doing the 'crap jobs' leaves you with little reason to live other than self important and vitriol filled internet tirades.

by tony hopkinson

or otherwise, it'as our civic duty to hand one out for educational purposes.

Both of us must get red faces on occasion
LOL

by tig2

I will just bet that I can get away with blaming him.

The rest of the time I just blame JD. It's ever so much easier and JD seems to enjoy the abuse. Wonder what's up with that???

If I'm having a really bad day, I blame NeilB. He's all the way in the UK and can't defend himself. Besides, he always has an intellegent rationale for everything.

I should try blaming Nick for something. I will have to think about that one.

I only get to blame TechExec when he uses "those words". Which he did in this post now that I think on it. Maybe it's HIS fault!

by techexec2

You are all responsible for your own typos and misspellings.

But, I'm not without a heart. TR should provide some relief for those who just can't take responsibility. TR should enhance the "edit your post" form to enable you to formally blame another TR peer for your edit. :-)

by nicknielsen

never blame. :D

But like JD, I will occasionally admit to being mistaken about being mistaken. B-)

Edit: What do you mean, edits [i]aren't[/i] mandatory?

by techexec2

Besides, you really shouldn't blame me, Tigger. I was the first one to come to your aid in this little romp with the rude laptop thief! :-)

edited because I can

by Member 25348569

Now, whose fault is THAT?

I wander off for a few days' family exploring and when I come back, Tigger's giving me grief :_| and Busted reckons that I don't like him :( (I do, but by the time I've worked out all of the cultural references - Googling grobschnitt, for instance - I'm a week past a snappy answer). I [b]still[/b] don't know if JD is one...

And as for JD and abuse - let's really, really not go there again... :0

Neil :D

Not edited because I [b]don't[/b]...very often

by onbliss

Based on the title,I concluded that this could be a topic about jumper settings, BIOS settings, power supply, mother-boards and what not. So I did not bother opening the thread.

Last evening, the number of posts in the thread made me suspicious that I was missing some fun, so read few posts and making a note to myself that I need to read more today :-)

As I entered too late in this game, unfortunately I can not get the blame. A lost opportunity :-(

One question: How come the ladies never get blamed for anything :-) ?

by onbliss

...was it? I thought I spend too much time at TR. And looks like I am reading only miniscule number of discussions.

Or blame my memory :-)

For the records: In the infamous discussion I just urged "that shall not be named" to ponder on his action. Then, it was kind of blow out of proportions by all of us (you see I still take the blame :-) ).

by jdclyde

I will if I have to! :p

As for Tig, well if we think about this, I should be the LAST person to get blamed for editing typos and misspeeeelins! :0

by techexec2

So _I_ am in trouble?

The only reason I might look bad is because YOU are so friggin' NIIIIICE!

Keep those "man-hooks" AWAY from me! :-)

by psychotech

I did deal with by pointing out it was a stupid and bigoted and homophobic joke, and I simply called attention to it. Good ole boy jd seems to be the one with a ten foot chip on his shoulder and looking for a fight to pick.

by tig2

JD and NeverBusted started this to defend ME. Some seagull shows up, asks for help on cracking a password that, if he were qualified in any way, shape, or form to be working on what he admits is someone elses box, he would have known how to deal with. I politely told him that he was in the wrong place and got my hat handed to me. And while I'm a big girl and can handle myself, it was good of my peers to step in.

I realise that you don't play on the playground often and may not know who all the people are. But I can pretty much guarantee that flaming JD or NB is a bad plan.

As for the original poster, have you noted the seagull nature of same? He showed up, posted sh*t, and flew off. Had he responded with anything other than a flame, he would have found a MUCH different reception. He didn't. That suggests troll to me and we have had plenty lately.

All JD did was give the orignial troll... um, poster an earful. I don't get your problem with that.

Edited- typo

by psychotech

First the only person i flamed was jd, but only after he decided to get nasty (which apparently is his 'thing' here on TR).

You don't 'get my problem' with jd giving wm69 an earful because i DON'T have a problem with it. I simply pointed out that 'insulting' wm69 by insinuating he is gay is, well, an insult to gay people (as well as being pretty sad and immature to boot).

Clearly jd is one of those special internet bottom feeders who enjoys being hostile for the sake of hostility much more than having any type of constructive conversation or discourse, so in his petty race to the bottom of mental masturbation, i tagged along for sh1ts and giggles while it was amusing. Now it is boring.

Oh, and as for TR in general, yeah, i just pop in once in a while if i see something interesting (in this case i had had to clear a BIOS password before and was interested in the topic). But you can be assured that no matter how highly regarded a knuckle dragger jd is (which i think reflects poorly on TR as a whole if that is the case), i'm not going to back down from calling an 'idiot bigot' an 'idiot bigot', i just don't cower at popular opinion that easily.

by psychotech

See fair enough above. No problem with 'jokes', but jd wasn't joking, he was doing his best to be caustic by insulting a troll by calling him gay. Not only is that mentally lazy and insipid, but it is an insult to gay people.

Most people (including myself) don't even realize what they spew is a reflection of some deep seated hatred or bigotry or myopism. I (rather politely i might add) pointed this out to jd in my first post, it was not an insult or a flame. JD appears to get off on playing the TR 'jerk' role, and that's just what he did. And like i said, i played along while it was amusing.

by jdclyde

It was brilliat.

Die in a fire, huh? Yeah, you sure showed me who the mature one is.

As for looking at your posts, anytime I first converse with someone I always go back and read what they have said in other discussions to see what kind of person they are. am I taking them out of context or are they really twits? It doesn't look like you were taken out of context.

And removing the mystic and awe from booze lesses the draw of it. The will not have to run off to learn about the great big secret, because it isn't one. They have learned from my example that you don't drink to intoxicate. Much better to be the sober one at the party so you can laugh at everyone else as they puke their guts out. They are at the age when kids take off to "parties" where there will be booze. I feel confidant that my boys will not be the ones getting into trouble because they are new to booze and are trying to show off. They also know about the "call for a ride, no questions asked" policy. My kids won't be dead from drunk driving.

What are you teaching your kids other than to be a pompous ass?

Is this not the same approach that our schools are taking with sex, regardless of if we want them to or not? Handing out condoms to someone they can't give an asprin to.

Education makes for informed choices.

edited

by jdclyde

Don't let them push you around! :D

Editing is for sissies! :p Real men make tyypos on purpose! ;\

by kiltie

It's never teh opreaters fault, I maen I awlays intedn to typo wright

EDIT: DAMMIT, I can't think of anything to edit :D

by gadgetgirl

he keeps saying he "likes girls"....

oh, sorry, you meant grobschnitt.

I'll keep my gobshutt in the future in case I get blame heading my way, too.....

I thought jd and abuse was the "in" TR pastime. Was I wrong??

:p

GG

by tig2

And I shouldn't say much about the words you used. I used them too.

Okay. It ISN"T your fault.

by tig2

Really requires Jaqui to do it right.

Blaming you is fun- you always have an intellegent rationale for just about everything.

Don't bother to Google grobshnitt. NeverBusted will be more than happy to tell you what it means. JD is one.

Blamestorming is the cornerstone of corporate accountability. By refining our abilities here, we are more qualified in our various roles in the work world.

Pretty cool, huh? :)

by tig2

What is really funny is that he did exactly what I suggested- and flamed back.

Some people!

Always good to see you!

by onbliss

[i]It's never teh opreaters fault, I maen I awlays intedn to typo wright

EDIT: DAMMIT, I can't think of anything to edit :D [/i]

ha ha... that was a good laugh

by onbliss

Apart from Jaqui, Jck gets into fun discussions with Jdclye.

I do not know why suddenly I am reminded of [b]J[/b]ay [b]J[/b]ay the [b]J[/b]et Plane :-(

by tig2

We bite. :)

This is the 100th post in a thread that, by rights, should have died long before now. Makes you wonder...

And the fact that you haven't been here made you the PERFECT person to blame! :)

Edited because it seemed like the right thing to do.