Forgotten Bios Password

my bad........!

Ok, you lot, make the most of that warm and fuzzy admission up there.

Grief, I'm getting sentimental in my old age.... ;)

GG

Ok, BB. I'll admit the name was unnecessary and takes away from my point. I take it back. This time without names:

THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM, NOT A CODDLING SERVICE

This a public forum of peers who are IT professionals. It's not a public service. The peers get out of it only what they put into it. It's not the "job" of peers to coddle other peers. "Wildman" has been a very poor peer here.

WILDMAN STARTED THIS

"Wildman" started this thread by asking for help in breaking into a computer. (Legitimate? Who knows? We will never know for sure.) Tigger's answer was perfectly reasonable and appropriate. "Wildman" responded with an overreaction, oversensitivity, rudeness, disrespect, and a threat (his 2nd-ever post). He never even said "thanks" (still hasn't by the way). That's not the way to start a new relationship with peers. "Wildman" then went silent for 2 days and there was talk ABOUT him rather than WITH him. But, he wasn't scared away (your assertion is incorrect). He returned two days later to post some more.

WHAT ABOUT YOU?

You think "wildman" should have been coddled here. Fine. You're a peer here too. Why didn't you step in and coddle him a few days ago? Why not right now? I don't think you should expect other peers to do your coddling for you.

EPILOGUE

You can spend all the time you want parsing out Tigger's words or my words. It won't change the fact that "wildman" has been a very poor peer here. And, if you want someone to be coddled, you should step in and do it.

For saying everything I was thinking- but later. Had just come in from a training walk (yes- still in training, can't stop, 2007 is coming!) and had only time to scan quickly and respond very little before sleeping set in.

I owe you a PM. Coming soon dear.

I also owe you a virtual lemsip. You really must stop feeling poorly!

The only thing I can add to your brilliant post is that reading people's posts gave me a great insight into the people themselves. There are folks here that I first got to "know" by reading. While some of my opinions have changed in time, that change has been more a refinement than an alteration.

And I read a variety of threads on a variety of subjects to get there. One section alone doesn't do it.

Get better girl. You HAVE to quit running yourself down!

:)

possible way.. But why on earth would adults need a disclaimer? Why would anyone here allow their feelings to get hurt over posts to a tech board? Your skin doesn't even have to be THAT thick to get over such a thing.

I've been run down, had my opinions COMPLETELY trashed, been called names and once, even had my life threatened. And that means what to me? Absolutely nothing.

...your eyes with gentle pressure. Sometimes I get a relief (momentary) for pains due to Sinus colds. I guess it must do something for the drainage of the fluid.

How would I not forgive a fellow MSite and SINUSite :D?

...whose medicine for almost all the ailments had Vodka + Pepper :-)

[i]"You think "wildman" should have been coddled here. Fine. You're a peer here too. Why didn't you step in and coddle him a few days ago? Why not right now? I don't think you should expect other peers to do your coddling for you."[/i]

Lots of people crying about wildmandans treatment, but no one stepping up to treat him as they feel everyone else SHOULD have, the whole time making excuses for his behavior.

More fun to cast stones from on high than to practice what you preach? That seems to be the case.

Try Tiger Balm. I will warn you- it is MUCH stronger than Vicks. You should be able to find it at most drugstores- at least in the US. Don't know about Ireland.

Homeopathy does indeed have some solutions- Tiger Balm is one of them. Let me do a bit of looking Bliss- I know of a couple of places in teh Metro, just need to get some references.

I find that a cup of mint tea helps a great deal. The other thing that I do is take green tea capsules to keep it at bay. Green tea is an anti-oxidant and works with Vitamin C to help protect you from flare-ups.

Coruscant, this was the most dead on statement of all. Expressed much more eloquently what I was trying to say a few threads above. What a pleasure to know there are still some truly professional IT folks out there like you.

thanks,

BB

Depends on whether she fell down to distract me while her son was jemmying my door. If so I'd attempt to avoid stepping on her on my way to kick his ass off my property.

Would you go up to a perfect stranger in the street and ask them if they knew how to get past a yale lock because you'd lost your key?

Would you consider this person a responsible citizen, if he reached inside his bag and handed you a lock picking kit and a set of instructions ?

As far as admins go, all attempts at access with no acceptable authorisation must be treated as at least suspicious. Anything else means they are not doing their job.

Are you wildman69 in disguise by the way?

to meet a basic level of respect and civility, many here will bend over backwards to help. here is one example.
https://www.techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=8&threadID=176796&start=0

People that come to this site are adults, and are playing in an adults world. If someone is unsure of ANY new envrionment they should "lurk" for a bit to see what the culture is like. Clearly Wildmandan was only used to kid rant sites, and that is an attitude that is typically not welcomed with open arms by the people that come here.

There are technical discussion, there are personal discussions. There are help sessions, and there are flame sessions. A little something for everybody. I was hosting a dinner date a few months back. Just before bed I asked if anyone had any recipies they could recommend. there were about 40 posts when I woke up, and over a hundred by the end of the day. That is the kind of people come here, that are helpful and supportive.

When you use your second post EVER to attack someone, (like Wild did) well, the game can change real quick, as you saw.

TR pretty much leaves us to our own, and it is sometimes a vigilanty justice that keeps the place in line. Your polite, helpful, and responsive, you are welcomed with open arms. Your a rude, loud twit, you get stepped on.

I have only seen two discussions get pulled, and heard of one other. The "one other" was because of being rather suggestive (as I take it), but the two I saw was from a loud punk that would start discussions with the title being for everyone to suck his big ####. Yeah, he was a real peice of beauty work.

Try it, you will like it.

Actually STOPPED what was beginning to be a flame war some time back. Someone asked for help on a password, the respondant stated only to call the manufacturer. The original poster came back with "It's MY equipment" or something similar and I came into what was escalating with EXACTLY that line.

A couple of weeks ago in another thread, I suggested the first line- call your manufacturer. For the next week, my personal email was filled with DEMANDS that I assist further. The language, when it went to my personal email was "colourful" to say the least. And while I can delete with the best of them, I finally had to take the step of reporting that individual to my email provider.

I did not, in writing that line, assume anything other than that I was covering my tail (hopefully) by stating a policy. As it appears that I was very wrong, I will simply choose to not post to this type of query in the future.

It is not my responsibility to educate a new user, although I often will. In this case, I was flamed by the original poster. What could I have said to ease that situation- especially after it had gone to numerous posts by the time I saw it again? And doesn't he have an equal responsibility to me? Isn't it incumbent on him to assume neutrality? Why do I bear the responsibility in that communication?

I have been accused of accusing someone else of being a thief. I did not such thing, nor did I imply it. I can't help the immaturity level of the poster who chose to infer it and then compound that by making accusations of ME. That other people chose to defend me is a reflection of the fact that the playing field is unequal- I am known and therefore my conduct is in general known, WMD is not known and his conduct perceived to be unacceptable.

I do not have a problem entering into dialogue. Be assured that I will, as requested by WMD, not make any effort to answer him in the future.

I am used to stronger balms that we get in India.

Also we make a home made concoction. A small hot shot of it clears up things. Want a recipe? You might want to shop a little bit in the Indian groceries, and I must warn you the smell/taste can hit hard :-)

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I don't get sinusitis in general. What I have managed to develop this year seems to be an alergic reaction to something that has the effect of causing a constant drain that results in a chronic cough.

Sudafed helps to keep things dry. Benadryl did okay but keeps me awake. I know, I know- supposed to put you to sleep. Not me!

I use red Tiger Balm for virtually everything. It works llike Vicks (only better) for congestion and sinus and works as a topical rub for muscle pain. The white is better for anyone who has never come in contact with it- not as strong.

Always interested in new herbal recipes. If I can fix a problem without using a chemical, I will do so.

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Edited to get a nice even block! B-)

[i]"...Did anyone bother to send the misguided young man an email and maybe try to educate him on netiquette..."[/i]

Did you?

[i]"...it would have been better to gently educate him on the ways of the world..."[/i]

Did you?

[i]"...I would ask him to return and learn,..."[/i]

Did you?

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TR is a forum of peers and you are one of them. You could have stepped in and offered your help to "wildman" at any time. You can still do so right now. Your contribution as peer in this discussion is only to complain about what the other peers did and to say what you think they should have done.

Where's your discussion with "wildman"? I suggest you should stop sitting on the sidelines, get in the game, and stop being a heckler in the stands.

I just realized that I missed a huge chunk of this entire thread. I have to say that NO, I am not Wildman in disguse! Hopefully, that much is obvious ;)

I also didn't realize in my first post that I was saying something very similar to a previous poster. That seems a little weird. I didn't mean to regurgitate what someone else had already said.

[i]"...Did anyone bother to send the misguided young man an email and maybe try to educate him on netiquette..."[/i]

Did you?

[i]"...it would have been better to gently educate him on the ways of the world..."[/i]

Did you?

[i]"...I would ask him to return and learn,..."[/i]

Did you?

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TR is a forum of peers and you are one of them. You could have stepped in and offered your help to "wildman" at any time. You can still do so right now. Your contribution as peer in this discussion is only to complain about what the other peers did and to say what you think they should have done.

Where's your discussion with "wildman"? I suggest you should stop sitting on the sidelines, get in the game, and stop being a heckler in the stands.

note: re-posted to the correct place

Oh my, I suffer chronic coughs. And I often get addicted to the cough drops :-)

At work, I go to the cafeteria get some hot water and mix in a lots of powdered black pepper and keep sipping the mixture. It really helps.

At home, instead of water I use hot milk, and I add Turmeric powder + Powdered black pepper. It works great.

As for the recipe, let me double-check with my wife for all the correct english names of the herbs/spices and will post it later tonite.

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I wonder if peppercorn and tumeric soaked in hot water would work as well. I will have to try that as well- often things that work as a tea can be concentrated for easier use.

I have never heard of black pepper for a cough but always willing to try something new. I frequently will drink hot water to keep my throat from being sore from coughing. Coffee or tea in too great a quantity have their own problems.

You really have to be careful of cough drops- they are remarkably addictive. I use hard candies instead- they have the same effect. A hard sour candy if you can stand it works best.

Have you always had chronic cough? I didn't before I moved to MN. I always thought it was the climate here that does it- it is always worse when the seasons start to change.

Thanks for the tips! I will look for the recipe later on.

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by all means email me an abacus (I'd love to see by [i] which [/i] means, too) but....

30 of the hot 100
the ones who couldn't change avatars cos of hitches, which you so wonderfully changed
the TR PTB who joined us, and aren't allowed to be in the slightly warm 100

so I reckon we're both about right.

Or at least not that far off the mark.

Well, ok, we're in the ball park.

Ok, so we're playing baseball in a basketball park

Shoot, NB, you've got me questioning myself again....

;)

Enjoy your red seal, babz!

:D

GG

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...but the tumeric taste and smell would be too strong :-(

When I said cough drops, I meant the "Halls" candies. I buy one sachet, and I won't rest until I have gobbled the last one. It is just hugely addictive.

Yeah I always had it. But I always suspected of a biological trigger that just triggers many of the hereditary troubles. Also it might have coincided with the time I moved to MN/USA. Change of weather and lifestyle.

I found two more that weren't in our original list... bringing the count to 50.

Although there are some folks that are still using the ribbon. I'm not saying a word- October is Breast Cancer Awareness month!

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I am used to it...... :p

just followed this amazing example of all that seems to be breaking this world apart; illustrating, so well why our boys are dying in a war that makes about as much sense as the unbelievable animosity generated by a mere question, followed by assumptions of guilt. no wonder the majority of this country was so willing to start killing others, without getting the facts first!
seems to me many of you could use a lesson in restraint and tolerance and humility. the anger associated with many of your responses is truly scary and illustrates the mess this world is finding itself in; everyone so willing to jump to conclusions, with no real evidence.
why all the immediate hatred? we are all brothers and sisters; the sooner we realize that the better chance this world has to survive!

This ended up in the wrong place - sorry for the waste of time.

the old saying is: Put on your pants and go home.

We can't be serious all the time.

I would recommend you consider http://www.experts-exchange.com/
when you need help. you have to pay for the help, but it is quite inexpensive, and the focus there is answers, rather than opinions. It is a much better source for solutions to problems.

Those of us who are the 'more mature', 'old-timers' at this, could have simply responded with a simple, sorry, beyond flashing the cmos, don't think I can help you. Have you tried calling Panasonic?

And the long senseless string of name-calling after that? I don't think anyone is winning any prizes for maturity on this one.

...several times. And, have been quite satisfied. I used to earn points by answering. But it was some time ago.

I like TR because it feels like a place for techies to hang around.

When you come walking into somewhere asking for something for nothing, a little respect and descression is advised.

The response wildboy got was actually calmer than he would have gotten at many other tech sites as many techs do not accept his rude behavior, or his attack on Tig.

The only people that would feel Tig "attacked" him are ones that either are new to tech and do not understand that we do not condone nor support illegal behavior here, and a newcomer has the burden of establishing him/herself, not the other way around.

His continued response only re-enforced that this individual was unworthy of anything but scorn.

trolls and script-kiddies are not welcome additions to the "family". They are generally chased away, as ignoring them just makes them get louder and louder until TR disables their account. In the mean time, that loud punk will have chased off more people from TR than one discussion like this ever will. You will notice a lot of it went off on tangents with little to do with wildboy. Otherwise the discussion would have died long ago.

Will some people get their feeling hurt? Only if they are stupid enough to [b]allow[/b] what someone else posts on an internet board to hurt their feelings.

[i]"Freshuan is right-on-the-nose On this one."[/i]

I don't think any of the following quotes from freshuan's post could be described as "right on the nose". Freshuan is overreacting to this thread (with all due respect to you freshuan).

[i]"just followed this amazing example of all that seems to be breaking this world apart;"[/i] This is not world politics. It's just a web forum.

[i]"no wonder the majority of this country was so willing to start killing others, without getting the facts first!"[/i] This is [b]just a web forum![/b] This is not about going to war, or "road rage", or some other kind of violence.

[i]"the anger associated with many of your responses is truly scary and illustrates the mess this world is finding itself in;"[/i] Nope. Just a web forum. "Wildman" is a peer just like everybody else. He could have changed the direction of this thread at any time with a reasonable post. And, I am [i]very[/i] sure he is welcome at TR by [i]all[/i] peers who posted here, provided that he posts in a reasonable way. And, that won't be difficult. He has virtually no where to go but up.

[i]"why all the immediate hatred?"[/i] Nope. Not hatred. Check out the other posts to other threads made by the people you think are expressing "hatred". You will get a better perspective on who they really are.

All the best to you.

Lots of people would take offense to being labeled a criminal. Not just wildman. And I thought I was pretty clear that I am not defending wildman's response back. Freshuan's point is, most everone was pretty much tactless and immature about it.

Sure, no shots were fired, but this is where it starts. A couple people get in a pissing match, and it escalates. And to be so riled up over something so trival... I would say Freshuan's point is quite valid.

ooops... (though overacting might fit too).

I know what you are going through wildman. I had a laptop that I purchased at a yard sale and it too had a bios password. I searched for countless hours on the net for different post and could not find any help. There are a few sites on the net that you can visit and they will give you some ideas of what passwords to use for certain machines. I won't post those sites on here in fear of getting flamed myself, but not everyone is "BAD" that is on the net. I can sympathize with your frustration. Sorry I couldnt offer more assitnace.

I know your situation and have been in it myself and I am disappointed that you failed to get the technical advice you deserved.

I am new to this site but it turns out to be a slagging match. Hopefully this is not the norm because if it is I will be unsubscribing.

The moderators, if there are any, should do something about it.

This is the Discussions forum.

Your question belongs in the Question & Answer forum.

And, no, Tig's response was [b]not[/b] disrespectful. It was correct and succinct. If you have a problem with such it would seem to be one of your own making.

There is seldom need to set a password for BIOS. First Reason is you might forget it after a couple of years.

In corporate or SOHO environment you just tell the user: Do not tamper with the BIOS, do not change it! Almost all end users don't give a damn about the BIOS.
The same rule goes for your kids.
In the last 15 years I have only had one end user who 'locked the door and threw the key away'.
As I recall the PC had a 'Dallas chip'.

\Local support

DeepSand is correct. This question shoud have been
in Technical Q & A.

It would be quite all right with a gentle reminder for to guide a newcomer to TR.

I am not in favour of name-calling and degenerated speech.

Tribute goes to Gregor Mendel

\Local support

Some 4 years ago, I had the same problem with a thinkpad and after searching and trying different soft, came upon http://www.ja.axxs.net/unlock/.
"Joe in Australia" gave me a solution, which would have cost at IBM 250 euros.
If you don't find your brand on the lists, email him for a solution.

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Not sure what I was getting into join this forum, but please remeber we all had to learn are own way. I am sure this guy has learned the hard way but he has lol. I just serched for some answers on the right jumpers to reset but gheesh I would hate to ask since this is a clients Laptop and who knows if it is stolen. Think like a hitman you have a job, do it , collect and hope not everyone is dead yet!

I have found myself asking the wrong question, only to learn as everyone should do. Mom did not spit me out with a PC in my hand right! But Rndmacts your reply is the way I was raised. I am not new to PCs, new to TechRepublic and this is what I see. Like the Ladys Comment, I should try out yahoo for questions lol. I will always read your discusions, GrandDaddy Rndmacts