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Gary McKinnon - UK Conservative Party jump on bandwagon ...

By OldER Mycroft ·
Received in my Gmail this very morning...

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There?s something about the Gary McKinnon case that keeps drawing attention ? and high-profile backers. The admitted hacker has been fighting extradition to the US, where he reportedly faces decades in prison for sneaking into Pentagon and NASA computers.

McKinnon and his campaigners ? which now include his mom, Sting?s wife, Boris Johnson, the Daily Mail and now even the Conservative Party ? want him to be tried in the UK, as he?ll face fewer years in prison and will be able to stay on home soil.

Anyone facing time in jail would likely prefer that option, but as McKinnon suffers from Asperger?s syndrome, it has now become a human rights issue to keep him from cross the pond, as the stress would be too much for him.

The Conservatives this week jumped on the bandwagon and took the issue to parliament ? forget the economy, swine flu, the Afghan death toll, this is important ? but the Government said there?s nothing they can do.

I don?t think McKinnon should be sent to the US. He should be tried here, and be given house arrest and not be allowed to play around on computers anymore. That?s about it.

What he did was basically graffiti. He did it at the wrong time and the wrong place ? imagine what would have happened to someone who broke into Pentagon grounds post-9/11 to spray paint the walls? They would have been shot. (I?m not saying that?s a sane response, but Gary should be glad he was out of range.)

Others disagree, and say the hack was the biggest in US military history and cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to clean up after.

What do you think? Should McKinnon be tried in the UK? Or should he be sent to the US to face up for what he?s done there? Or is this all just a storm in a teacup? Answers to the usual place:

Maybe I can garner some American response to a 'purely British situation'.

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If you can't do the time, don't do the crime!

by The 'G-Man.' In reply to Gary McKinnon - UK Conser ...

He's a criminal who hacked a foreign governments system!

So, due to that fact, I could no give s toss what happens to him.

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He knew what he was doing was wrong

by Tony Hopkinson In reply to Gary McKinnon - UK Conser ...

He knew if he got caught he was in deep poo. F**k him, we've got more important things to worry about.

Course implicit in that acceptance that the US has a right to try the guy under US law for a crime committed against US citizens. That vice versa is true, otherwise no can do...
If he'd have hacked the MOD or been an american citizen Aspergers syndrome is irrelevant. He's a bargaining chip in a diplomatic game, we should make sure we get something useful for him.

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Asperger's syndrome and extradition

by CharlieSpencer In reply to Gary McKinnon - UK Conser ...

Would someone explain why having Asperger's syndrome would turn extradition into a human rights issue?

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Yeah... as

by The 'G-Man.' In reply to Asperger's syndrome and e ...

significant difficulties in social interaction, along with stereotypies and other restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior and interests turns you in to criminal through no fault of your own!


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I didn't make my point

by CharlieSpencer In reply to Yeah... as

Regardless of how the disease may affect his behavior, how does the disease prevent him being transported to the US for trial? The way I read the article, just physically moving him was the human rights issue.

" has now become a human rights issue to keep him from cross the pond, as the stress would be too much for him."

Exactly how would transporting him cause Asperger's-related stress? If he can't fly, can a ship be used? Is sedation an option?

If they're saying the disease itself was responsible for his crime, they're going to set back public acceptance of this affliction by a couple of decades. There's also the potential of depriving sufferers of the use of the Internet, one of the rare places where people with many afflictions can find acceptance.

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Exactly - Crime - Time

by The 'G-Man.' In reply to I didn't make my point

you lose the location option when you commit the crime against that local!

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if it turns out to be a frame-up...

by john.a.wills In reply to Gary McKinnon - UK Conser ...

and he has been prosecuted in the UK, he can claim damages for malicious prosecution - but not if he's been prosecuted in the US. So there is a human-rights issue with every extradition from the UK (or Canada, or almost anywhere democratic) to the US.

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