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Getting my foot in the door....

By tweakerxp ·
I have just retired from GM and I want to get into the IT field. I have my A+ cert and presently working on my Network+. Money isn't an issue with me. Got plenty and I just want to stay busy. Most places that I have applied at want experienced workers.

So it the chicken and the egg thing here.

How do I go about geting experience?

I have a small computer reapir business I run from my home. I have done work for several local businesses, lot of people whom I worked with at the plant, neigbors and family.

I would like to work at a medium size company with 2 or 3 people.
Am I setting my sights too high?

Any suggestions would be great.

Thanks

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Breaking In To IT...

by Matthew Moran In reply to Getting my foot in the do ...

On this topic, I can help. I wrote the book on it. Okay, well, sort of...

TechRepublic has a download of Chapter 11 of my book from Cisco Press, The IT Career Builder's Toolkit. I could write my response but I would be plagerising myself.

Here is the link
http://downloads.techrepublic.com.com/5138-6240-5594538.html?tag=search

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Not plagerism

by j.lupo In reply to Breaking In To IT...

if you site yourself. As someone having to publish also, Plagerism is a big deal and I have all sorts of checks I have to pass on that. However, it is ok to site your own original work as long as you reference where you are quoting from. It can be yourself.

Sincerely
Jennifer Lupo

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I was kidding...really...

by Matthew Moran In reply to Not plagerism

I know that I can site my own work. It was really an issue of time but I was making a joke. No need to re-writing a free download already here at TR...

Thanks.

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That is cool - You never know who knows

by j.lupo In reply to I was kidding...really...

what though and you know how people go after plagarism. :) Keep up the great work. We need more people that help breakdown those troublesome walls of HR.

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Wish the link worked . . .

by roadbiker In reply to Breaking In To IT...

I download articles from TR all the time, but for some reason this link doesn't work today.

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TR has been having issues

by j.lupo In reply to Wish the link worked . . ...

There are several threads started about the problems they are undergoing. Just post a Site Issues thread about it, TR will then look into it for you.

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Besides Matthew's book

by j.lupo In reply to Getting my foot in the do ...

here are some other points (that he probably mentioned):
First, you have a business so you have experience. You need to highlight that in your resume that should be pointed towards IT. Your old resume will not work because it was for your previous job at GM. Unless those roles/responsibilities relate to your IT job that you want, they should not be the focus of your resume.

2nd, do some information interviews with managers in companies. Find out what they are looking for and the types of experiences they want their employees to have when they hire. Keep it informational, not that you are looking. You never know what can happen.

3rd, you will have to market yourself. Items 1 and 2 help you with that.

4th, continue your education, either on your own or via schooling or both.

5th, get involved with professional organizations, volunteer with your church or some other organization. Basically build that resume of what you have done and what you can do because of it.

Hope this helps.

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Incentive

by LeoBloom In reply to Getting my foot in the do ...

You state you got (sic) plenty of money and you just want to stay busy. I wonder if you are revealing this to potential employers. This sounds more like an attitude of someone who should be volunteering at a hospital rather than someone I want to spend time and money training to become a member of my IT department.

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LeoBloom - That is a good point

by j.lupo In reply to Incentive

I know for me, if I had the money that work was not an option, I would still want to be in IT because of my passion for doing it. It is important that the employer feel you want to be there to add value and contribute to the mission and goals of the organization. If you only want to keep busy, then the employer may feel you will get bored and leave soon.

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Several key things here...

by steve.marshall In reply to Getting my foot in the do ...

This may be deemed as a derogatory or insulting post, it's not meant to be, i'm trying to help set expectations and ensure there are no impossibe goals trying to be reached here. There really is a point to all this...

First of all, although it is not politically correct to mention it, no matter how much people say age will not affect your chances, it's a fact that it will.

You mentioned that you have just retired from GM, can I assume you are 50+ if so it does have an impact on what is viable for you if you are honest to yourself?

Also, again, without demeriting your efforts, A+ and Network+ are pretty much worthless qualifications to anyone in the real world IT market.
I restate, NOT to demerit your efforts or your abilities but you have to consider your competition. You will be potentially facing off against graduates with CCA, CCNA, CCNP (Most of them undeserved I must add... it's embarssing how many wet behind the ears kids these days have MCSE's without ever having installed a server in a real world production environment, I interviewed a CCNA for a tech role and he couldn't even tell me how to define a network range from a subnet mask).

Now we have to look at what market place you are trying to enter.

With limited technical experience you will be coming in at the lower technical end, so help desk positions or junior tech support. Is this really where you want to head ? I would suggest that someone with your life experience (If my assumption of age is accurate) you would be far more useful at a senior role, which brings me to my point.

If money isn't an issue and you obviously have experience of running a business why not continue to develop this ?

You are going to struggle to compete with the youth and will likely find the pain of progressing in a Blue chip environment unbareable so do what you are good at and grow your home service company.

If you are skilled the qualifications won't matter and as word of mouth (one of your greatest allies in the service industry) gets around your client list will grow and in time you may be in a position to recruit more technical people to help you develop a service business to complement the repair business.

In maybe a year or two you may be providing conultancy solutions using your life and business experience married with the support from your tech team (maybe 2 or 3 at this time).

You have a great opportunity to develop your own skills, your own business at your own pace. Something you will NOT have the opportunity to do if you try to join an organisation as an employee.

Just a few off the cuff thoughts. As I said, no offence is intended anywhere, but no matter how many people say otherwise age and experience play a massive part in the recruitment process and qualifications have been devalued so grossly by "fast-track" course and boot camps you need to find something that makes you stand out, and the competition is harsh.

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