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By Shanghai Sam ·
Hi
I am trying to update a friend's old computer by installing a 40 gb hard drive.The problem is the motherboard only sees 8gb as it old.It is a Wintech MP064 running a Pentium 133.I tried to format it with a Win 98 boot disk which it did,but it only sees 8gb.I tried to partition the drive into smaller drives,but it tried to partition the 8gb not the 40 gb.I installed win98 on the 8gb section,but it had problems such as freezing and shutting down when trying to install some programs.I obtained Disk Wizard from Seagate which made the board see the whole 40gb and formatted the drive as 40gb.It then says to insert the OS boot disk that you are going to use(Win98SE in this situation)from which it copies the files.Then it gives the option toinstall the OS from a bootable CD or diskette.I tried from the CD but it did not even read the CD.When I tried to install from the Win 98 boot disk and CD,it would begin to install Win98,but then stop, giving error messages and saying the drive is not formatted properly.
Can anyone please tell me how to make the BIOS see the whole hard drive and have it formatted for Win 98 SE,install Win98 and work without problems or is it not possible.Is the CD not bootable?I get conflicting answers from different people.Any help greatly appreciated
Thanks
Steve

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by qballrail In reply to Hard drive

If the BIOS isn't flash, forget it. That old of a PC it is very likely not a Flash BIOS. You need to go into your setup utility to tell it to boot in this order: CD;FD;HD or some variation. I usually set up to seek to the CD first then the HD then FD.

The instability has to do with the fact your BIOS will not properly recognize anything above 8G. Unless the BIOS is flashable, you will have to replace the board. Replacing the BIOS chip is possible but impractical, cost prohibiting.

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by qballrail In reply to Hard drive

Sorry, forgot to mention that flashing the BIOS is a time-consuming and precarious process for the untrained. You need to get the BIOS version off the chip or the side of the board. Otherwise, get the ver from first boot, the string of characters at the bottom of the screen at the Mem test. Contact the MFR or go to their website to download the flash software.

Good luck!

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by TheChas In reply to Hard drive

Your best option (other than a new motherboard) is to install a PCI slot IDE controller card.

Not only will the controller card recognize the full 40GB of the drive, the access speed will be up to 6 times faster.

I have seen cards for under $30 at numerous internet retailers.
www.compgeeks.com
www.newegg.com
www.mwave.com

Your next option would be a BIOS / Drive overlay utility from the hard drive manufacture.
If you purchased a retail drive, there may be a floppy in the box.
Otherwise, go to their web site, and download the utility.
Follow the instructions closely.
You will need to follow a special proceedure to boot from a floppy and have the drive operate.

I also advise that you set the primary DOS partition no largerthan 32GB for W98 to avoid a possible bug.

Chas

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by TheChas In reply to Hard drive

The Windows 98 CD is NOT bootable.
The boot from CD option to install Windows started with Windows 2000, followed by Me and XP.

Chas

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by Shanghai Sam In reply to Hard drive

You said that you got the board to see the drive using disk wizard if the drive is being seen by the board as 40 gig then you need to see if you can boot up on the windows floppy disk which will give you the cdrom to use or if you can get to the cdrom from where you are at . I have not used disk wizard so I am not sure if you can get to the cdrom from it .so if your board is seeing the hard Drive then boot up on the windows floppy disk of course this will be in dos mode. you will then need to insert the win98SE cd and type in at the a: prompt " d: " or what ever your cdrom drive letter is then hit enter this will take you to the win98SE cd then type in "cd tools"
your prompt should look something like (d:>Tools_ )
then you will need to format your hard drive from here by typing " format c: " and then hit enter. if it will not let you do anything you may need to use fdisk and partition your drive. after you get through with the format just type in " cd\ " and hit enter this will takeyou back to the main directory of d:> where you will just type in " setup " and hit enter read what ever it is telling you and hit the correct keys to continue this will then start up your loading of win 98.
I hope this will help you if you have any questions feel free to ask

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by Data Ninja In reply to Hard drive

It will work, but you HAVE to boot to the floppy properly with the overlay in operation. On most drive overlays you have to wait for a prompt such as "Press spacebar to boot from floppy", at which time you can do that and then it will boot from theWin98 diskette and load everything properly.

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