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by stu
I am running ME, and I must say, I am impressed.
Before I got this pc nearly 2 years ago, the last pc I had been on was an old ZX Spectrum in 1986 - technology has lept forward, and left me well and truely behind.
This pc is a P2 400Mhz, and underW98 (which it came with), you could wait all day just for it to fire up. I had a lovely start up logo, could sit an watch it for minuets and often did. With ME, hit the power button and BANG! I am there, loading taskbar programs and the systray. Everything is easier to find - ME has all the things that W98SE should have had but didn't. The virtual/swap area is fantastic - using nearly 2GB (I have 17Gb empty), so I dont have as many memory run outs. Problems include a file architecture that a lot of other programs dont like ( for example, WinZip 8.0 wont install - hangs the system)and some backup programs wont (my copy of ME dont have backup). I have a shut down problem at the moment (window write protection error), but I think that is due to a USB game controller software. For someone like me, self-taught (not that I know that much, but I know what I dont know, if you know what I mean)ME is a good system. It will not allow you to run 2os, unless you have two hard drives, and have themloaded on seperate drives, and switch them through BIOS (as I do), but hey, nor will 98 so I cant complain there.
I have a friend that is running W2000. He had a look at ME, and was impressed, and this bloke dont impress easily! (he is industry, and I am currently studying to be industry). Good system, well done microsoft, but hurry up and get the driver updates out - there is still a few things that willnot run on ME, but have no problems on 98.
7 out of 10 for getting it almost right,
10 out of 10 for trying.
by dan.klemann
by tongkie000
by 1pinoytechie
by gnutter
I've had my Athlon 600 system running stably on Win 98&2000 for more than six months now, and I'm a supporter of Microsoft, (well, mostly) but Win ME has disappointed me immensely, it rejects 70% of my software, accessories and games and has almost no modern hardware support.
In my opinion Win ME is the most user unfriendly OS released yet, it's got months to go before it's ready for release.
Come on Microsoft, get your act together.
by lansknecht
Perhaps the best feature of Windows Me is the system restore feature that allows you to pick a point in history and turn your system back to that point... ie: before you installed those corrupted scanner drivers and deleted all the uninstall README.TXT files.
Me WILL tax your processor more than other versions. If you are having overheat problems (or are on the edge of overheat problems) with 98, DON'T UPGRADE! The system will crash faster than a single-prop plane with a bird nest in the converter.
As far as performance goes, Windows 98 SE and Internet Explorer 5.5 (in combination) will bench your software faster than Me (that translates into Me is slower than 98 SE).
If you would like to sacrifice speed (and it's not a significant amount) for a more "user-friendly" experience, then Me is for you.
I don't understand some of you people. Everyone sits there and all they do is bust on Microsoft. But the real issue here is that, if it weren't for Microsoft, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A JOB IN THE COMPUTER FIELD. Re-think things when you are biting the hand that feeds you..
Eddie
by stgr321
I have a copy of WME which was brought from the US by a friend for me when he went O/S recently, as ME (to the best of my knowlege) has not yet been released for general consumption in Australia I feel very priveleged to be one of the early users ofthis Software.
Although it is definitely a better package than Win95/98 I still find some of the lack of features frustrating to say the least.
Some of the third party software can be abysmally slow or not work at all with protection error faults, but overall is still an improvement on anything else I have used.
The uncluttered nature of the workspace is a treat when using it for multitasking and Video rendering seems to be a little less time consuming (though this may be due to other factors as well)
I must say I think it quite a good platform overall and would reccommend it to most new users.
by dsturgeon
by thirtyoddsix
by scottdamron
by dtosh369
by stu
I am not an in-industry person,just a wanna be. My system is a P2 400, it was brought off the shelf (not again from this manufacturer, but live and learn).It came with W98 on it, and I had enough time to make a brew, waiting for it to fire up.I loaded ME on, had some problems initaly, as I was trying to load it onto a different hard drive to 98( trying to get a dual OS)and it wouldnt have it until I went in to BIOS and had a play. Now, in the time it used to take for the system info to come up,BANG! ME is loaded and asking for my password! Programs run faster - it has better virtual and swap allocations than 98 (I have nearly 2Gb being used as virtual/swap)loading times are drastically reduced and the system suffers from less hangs in general. Closing programs can take longer - I assume its because of tne virtual size, but hey, if it loads fast? I comes with a better suit of consumer tools - the DVD player is right snazzy - although had me tearing my hair out for a while as I didnt know that ME had one. The help function actually is a help, its better constructed and easier to use (although you can still get lost in it).It has everything that W98SE should of had, but didnt. Its user friendly, but not without its problems.
It has a built in folder compressor which works like WinZip - but it wont compress individual files, and Winzip wont even install. There are a few programs and applications that willnot run on ME (OK, they are mainly games, but some utilities are included). Some one has put a lot of thought into it, and has done a reasonable job. I get less system hangs with ME than 98, which is a good thing. I used to have to restart the machine every couple of hours to advoid hangs. It does load a lot of background applications, and occupies a lot of space, but I am relativly happy with it.
I only wish that my ISP could get their act together - but hey, thats the British!
by mrydquist
by jond
by eplunkett
Windows Me OEM runs great. I did have a few gliches, HP Colorado driver missing ( driver which work for win 9x and win 2000 won't work, no Diamond drivers on CD, Internet Connection Sharing is set up to share the Internet Connection on the Win ME machine with other workstations on the network but I cannot get a Netscape 4.75 browser to work.
All in all I think Windows ME is very solid.
by max_brown
by rpotthoff
by wsroadrunner
by ls2450
by max_brown
by bogasur
by vwbug1968
I'm not running Windows ME and based on what I've heard so far I probably will never do. Seems like its better to hold on to Win98 until MS delivers a better replacement.
I heard MS will come up with Whistler in 2001 which looks like it will be a worhty replacement to Win98 -a combination of the stabilty of Win2000 and the multimedia features of Win98-. We'll see...
by grantcom
by farukh82
Yes, I have got Windows Me. It is not bad nor it is good but average.
Although the Media Player is fun.
by aspasa
I ran windows ME and had never read about it not really supporting older legacy/DOS programs... It didn't support the necessary files= statement in the config.sys or wherever it now puts it.
In addition, there are, as with windows 98, Explorer 4.01 more layers of 'features' - hah!
so, after trying 2000 pro, millenium and '98 - all for goodly lengths of time - I've reinstalled my system using windows 95 RelB, explorer 5.5 - bypassing 4.01 and that active desktop/toolbar nonsense, office 2000 and .... to paraphrase tony the tiger - it's great !!!
just think - no more upgrades ......
by aspasa
I ran windows ME and had never read about it not really supporting older legacy/DOS programs... It didn't support the necessary files= statement in the config.sys or wherever it now puts it.
In addition, there are, as with windows 98 and Explorer 4.01 more layers of - 'features' - hah!
so, after trying 2000 pro, millenium and '98 - all for goodly lengths of time - I've reinstalled my system using windows 95 RelB, explorer 5.5 - bypassing 4.01 and that active desktop/toolbar nonsense, office 2000 and .... to paraphrase tony the tiger - it's great !!!
just think - no more upgrades ......
by its a secret
by patrick
I have Installed ME on 7 systems to date and the only thing I can say is it was not ready to be released yet seems that the systems that have the worst problems are the ATHLONS AND P3 OVER 400 ME has trashed every time I have tried to install on a large cpu system
leaving me to call a customer and explain why the system I have just built for him will not support the latest and cough cough greatest version of windows but like all things when it works it works great have had A overloaded cyrix 333 take to ME like it was a new stick of 128 with about the same increase in performance so beware be sure to back up and have your old defunct 98se ready to go back into service if anything goes wrong but if you are this far into looking at ME then you will prob upgrade no mater what anyone says just be carful,cross fingers buy whole rabbit ect ect ect and DO IT!
I installed ME on an Athlon 500 with MSI motherboard... It trashed until I installed the required miniport driver from AMD. Now it works fine!!!
ME is still just a reworked Win98 though...
by rpotthoff
by boysun
by sir keg
well it WORK's ... no Dosent... Yes It Does .... No it doesn't... I have had Both answers to this on my system First install Was lovley... insatlled tuns of Carp and treaded it like every Tech does at home... Like a field beater till it dies... :>) well it died and i reinsatlled and IT did not goin well the second time.. but it went in OK the next two time and this time not so well.. all the VIA patches are neaded... but NOT ALL THE WINDOWS ME ONES!! some of them seem to couse more headaces then with out. As par normal with M$. I don't know what is cosing incastent installation but ... perhaps it's time to Fdisk the thing. :>)
cheers
by inthegap
I have the same board with ME , 300 power, 256 mb memory 10gig in 3 physical drives, cd rom, cd burner, 100 mb zip drive, usb scanner, usb digital Cannon a20 camera, ASUS video/digital camera, HP printers including 1115 power shot which accepts compact disk digital cards.
Problems.
Can not get exept one of the in board USB ports to work sometimes. Added to that port a USB 4 port external with its own power. Put card reader in and would not work. Can not get printer 1115 to download pictures off card.
What can I do exept blow it UP !!!!
by cycomp
I am using the OEM version and If you like, to have Windows Protection write errors, display device not supported, scandisk to run each time you cold boot, (after a normal shutdown), So much junk running in the backgound, PC Health ( effects defrag and Scandisk ), Damn Video keeps popping up even after deleting it from Schedualed, Much of the software which runs fine under Windows 98SE, seems to have compabiable problems with ME, other software just won't work at all. Device drivers support forME not in existant, well at least I have not found a source, Mfg or elsewhere. Boot is slow, even tho I have ASUS P2B-LS with 256MB and 600 Intel CPU, Ultra fast Hard drives and Geforce 256 DDR 64mb video.
So in conclusion, before trying ME take an inventory of all hardware (device drivers) software (check with MFG's ) before you installing. OH....I use Kensington Mice and MouseWorks does not funtion with ME, but does work only as a Generic PS2 mouse. Of couse the list goes on on on...and on.
thanks for taking the time to read and have fun.
by hyao
by bbirch
I, like a zillion other suckers out there, purchased a "retail" copy of Windows ME. Silly me, I thought that the latest and greatest OS would support the latest and greatest hardware.
It's the latest and greatest alright, Microsoft's latest and greatest attempt at getting the average consumer to BETA test it's software.
by wsroadrunner
by lju
by jackieb
by markk
ME is an afterthought. Win98SE was supposed to be the last full version of 98, ME was supposed to be a 98Lite for home use, sort of a like "bob" if ask me. People bitched and moaned so MS "fixed" ME to have the same features that came with SE. I don't think it worked. MS doesn't want anybody to use 9x anymore, it's a support nightmare and it isn't designed to work with AD, and it confuses the choice of which OS to run. NT4 has always been more stable than 9x, you couldn't do as much mutimedia/game stuff, but for a Business system -NT Rocks-. I changed over 200 desktops form 9x to NT4 and dropped my call count by 3/4. Now I'm just getting up to speed on Win2k but all I can say is WOW it relly works well. It's faster than 98 and most of my games work, plus it comes with all the drivers I needed, either that or the old NT4 drivers worked. Don't buy ME it's a waste of time.. 9x is dead
MK
by pfafman
My first experience with Window ME was when I started as a beta tester back in February, 2000. Even in it's early beta days, I found ME to be preferable over 98. The beta program was fairly aggressive in trying to find and resolve as many bugs as possible. More stable than 98 (especially now that I am running a non-beta version), ME will still hang when pushed by power users.
To date, my favorite feature introduced is the System Restore. This allows you to take a snap-shot of your current system before you perform an upgrade (software or hardware). If the upgrade goes awry, you can roll the system back to your snap-shot. I have yet to have an unsuccessful restore, having purposely wiped out drivers, software packages, and even parts of the registry. I'm sure there are limits, but this is sure to please anyone wishing to undertake risky modifications to their machine.
I think ME is going to make a good OS, especially for the home user, but don't count on dedicated Linux and Mac users to rethink their platforms.
by the_big_one
Windows Melliniu edition is probably the best OS which Microsoft has released till now. The best of Multimedia experience and Internet makes it the favorite OS of the world.
Everone should try to use it.
by linda1
by gmeet
What's the problem with your cable modem? I installed ME with no problem at all. Are you using a NIC? Have you installed the NIC driver?
Overall ME is great for me. I don't know what is everybody complaining about.
by rpotthoff
by lutzd
I bought a new machine for my brother, and the supplier loaded ME on it without consulting me (don't you hate that?! I ordered W98). As I have to support him remotely I was angry about this at first, but found it to be more stable and more acceptingof some of the devices I installed. During the runup phase I connected it to my cable modem and it worked first go with no problems, so I suspect you have a problem at your end - sorry!
So far (about 3 months) there have been no OS problems at all (plenty of novice-user problems though!)
My overall opinion? Pretty good, but a pretty high price to pay for what is essentially a small upgrade from W98SE. Certainly more stable and cosmetically slightly improved.
Personally, I'll probably stick to W2K on my main machine, but I'll probably use ME on my games PC for compatibility reasons.
by shanghai sam
by tim carey
I had it installed on my system for around 6 hours before deciding I was wasting my time. Firstly the modem drivers were only working intermittently, while ME kept insinting that I also have a Standard 28,800 in my system!! Secondly - and I've heard others complain about this same thing - there is a bug in the desktop refresh API which sometimes means it can take 2-3 seconds for a window to minimise, maximise or resize. Not good Microsoft.
I'm going back to old faithful - dual boot between 98OS2 and NT4 Workstation. When MS have released a few service packs for ME and 2000 I may look again, but maybe not...
Win ME is running real smooth on clean installs. You can't use CABS like before or dump ME over Win 98, like they say you can.
But I am running WIN ME on 2 networked PC's, without a single error on the clean install and multiple errors on the one I dumped ME on over 98SE. Try to reload on a clean H.D.
Good Luck.
by lju
by biaxident
As with any OS, there will be the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. There will be those who like it and those who don't.
I remember all the negative hits ole' NT 4.0 took on the chin, like "can't play games on NT" or that it was not multimedia friendly. Nonsense! I have taken the time, a lot of time...to master NT and I will be the first to say that it is very ready to take you for a ride. You just have to learn its ways. Windows ME is the same, as is all the other Microsoft OS's.
My advice is that if you want to know how WinME will work for you, then try it.
In conclusion, I could bust up W2K all day and say that it sucks, but at the same time there is many things I like about it. I have the fortune of playing with it awhile before I have to deploy it on the large scale.
Isn't playing with a new system and seeing what its got, I mean c'mon thats where the fun is.
Enjoy...
BIAXIDENT
by rpotthoff
I am using ME on a new system that I built. I have (2) 9.1 SCSI2WU HD's, (1) 40x CD-Rom and (1) 8x4x32 CDRW, an AMD 800mhz K7 and 256meg of memory, running on a Gigabyte 7IX mobo. The only problem I am having is with the ACPI. I setup the monitor toturn off after 15 mins. but when I check it in the morning I see a blinking cursor in the upper right hand conner. the only other problem I am haveing is with a USB hub that I bought it is from Focus the model is FH-660 it is a six port hub that go's into the front of the case. No drivers and I have two friends that have the same one and it works fine.
I have to tell you though I love what MS has done with this OS I have not had a faster system and I have had some REALLY FAST SYSTEMS!!
by eplunkett
by mosworld
by grantcom
by johnan
I have used ME for a long time now, and I am satisfied with this "OS". The problem bigin when I used Partition Magic 5.0 and moved and rezized som of my Linux/SWAP/Fat32 partitions.
Parition Magic could not execute the changes I made because WinME would not boot in Dos mode. What can I do to solve this problem, do I have to boot from My floppy ?
by michaelr
by lju
by ab3_tek
by wsroadrunner
by marka
by gyedinak
I ran Windows Me for a few days and had noticed a few changes in the Disk Format feature. MS has removed the system file copying and out it with the Start Disk Option. BAD MOVE. If you are working on a laptop with Floppy or CD ROM, and your computercrashes, you are out of luck if you want to format the hard drive with system files. This option is gone. My CD copy of Windows Me was not bootable. How are you going to the Start Disk create option if your computer is dead. Better hang on to the old DOS boot disks with CD ROm support.
The Win98 Drivers, some of them, are not compatible with Me. The OS runs better than Win98 but can confuse new users and old Win98 Users. One thing that I found bad was the first time start screen with the video of Me. You can not close it. My experience with Me has been unpleasent for now.
by wsroadrunner
by dnhunt
by shanghai sam
I install and uninstall Windows ME twice. The support for the program, at least for the moment, before the release is $30.00.
I install ME over 98second ed., and the problems start when I try run my MSN (ISP). I call MSN support and after changing network settings, dial up settings, etc... we could'nt get it to work. Then they pass the bull to Windows ME technical support. The problem is that I don't want to paid.
Why if MSN is working fine under Win98, doesn't want to work with Windows ME?? (The broswer can't open any page).
And I don't like the solution of fdisk and start from 0.
PS. I have alot of complains of customer who have Windows Me and can't open a web page like me.
by ab3_tek
by tarabyte
by rmmcp
by geoffrey christopher james peabody ii
by amamsrd
by aalsop
On the whole, 2000 may be more stable (and potentially faster) than the 9x series - and the cluster size for NTFS is FAR superior - but don't try running it on a newer motherboard that uses the VIA chipset. There are documented problems - and I canattest to them - random lockups left and right. There is no current solution. I dropped back to ME - still tweaking things to get the benchmarks up.
Now if they could get ME to run NTFS, THAT would be something =)
by gaidheal
No "on the whole" about it, NT2K is far more stable. Faster....no not really. Same old NT problem, that being the HAL. Via chipsets were problematic under Win9x too, but yes, MickeySoft should have found it before release really. NTFS could easily be run under ME, but it never will. The reason is that Microsoft have deliberately chosen to separate the Home User market from the business market.
WinME - Home use, good for games not much else
NT2K - Business, stable (in theory at least) and great for running critical services etc, but with virtually no game support. At least none specifically for gaming.
by mike
by tapu2
ME supports more drivers then ever before on on hardware side. One major feature of the plug and play in the ME is that when ME finds new ahrdware and asks for drivers in the cd. Me will scan deep inside the Cd-rom looking for the drivers. Unlike in98 if the folder is in a different directory in the CD it will not seek it unless you point the folder out to it. So, Me is Much lot Easier.
Tapesh
by dtosh369
by titusd
Faster - Nope, I had to double my memory (now 64 meg) to get the same performance as Win98 2nd edition.
Powerful - Only had it 2 weeks - unknown.
by leodr
by wsroadrunner
Out of curiosity, I loaded Me onto a spare system I had ind then loaded "Ecar", which is a program to simulate a virus to check antivirus software... once a restore point has been established on your Me system, your antivirus software cannot touch it in the restore archives. I have found though, that restore archives are only temperary... they will remove themselves through time. After a while this archived virus will disappear. If anyone finds a better way to get at it and remove the archive manually, please share with the rest of us.
Merry Christmas
Wayne
by llee1
by dsturgeon
Obviously as with all software and hardware, some things work, some don't. I do know many people that run ME and have DVD players installed that work fine. You might need a newer version of the DVD software or a firmware update or ?
Good luck....
by craigj
I have WinME on 2 networked systems at home. The good point: Seamless Internet Connection Sharing - just follow an easy wizard and go.
Bad point: After installing ME I was unable to use DirectX for any games. The systems would hang. Big Red Switch time! To fix this on system "A" I needed to update the ATI Rage Pro drivers. On system "B" I had to install the reference drivers for the Monster I card.
Additionally, I plug in my Win2K laptop to this net and it connects with no setup at all, but that's probably a function of W2K rather than ME.
by cousinhart
by ebob
I bought an IBM Ispirati for the family to use late last fall. It shipped with ME. It runs fine, as long as we do not load anything else on it.
Even something simple, which I would expect should run, like a game from Microsoft themselves (namely: Age of Empires). It either hangs the computer, or completely crashes it. I have identified the cause, being a conflict with the Microsoft supplied sound driver. The "solution" according to both IBM and MS is: don't run that game.
No, I do not recommend WinME for any system. As an upgrade you WILL run into driver incompatibilities. As an OEM solution, you can NOT be confident that you can stray from the OEM config (including simple APPS).
by ebob
With the impending release of XP, it ain't too likely that all the missing drivers for ME will ever show up.
Other than the fact of missing drivers, therefore a lot of hardware and software shags bad, so you can't really use the PC the way YOU would like (Whatever happened to: Where do YOU want go today? It really was: Where are going to be TAKEN today?). Well, other than all of that, Win ME is fine. Too bad we have to use it the way Redmond says we should.
by ebob
...but when I started in systems, Microsoft had just gone into business.
They are definitely not, and never been, the "hand that feeds me".
Surely you're not saying "if not for Microsoft there would be no computer industry"? If you are, then please go back to school and learn about REAL systems (I am not talking about the multi-media company).
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