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HDTV and home entertainment centers. 1 set up correct, me looking stupid 2

By DanLM ·
My last TV(Toshiba) that I had purchased around 4/5 years ago was showing lines at the top of the picture that got larger and larger as time passed. It was probably 5 inch's of this when I finally bit the bullet and went out and purchased a new TV. My purchase being a 26 inch LCD HDTV from WestingHouse. Yes, I know. Not your major brand that you would associate with TVs. But I like the picture so does my better half. Total purchase price. Ehhhhh, 480 dollars.

After getting the correct converter box, everything is fine with both HDTV channels and regular channels as far as the picture goes. But here is where my I start to look stupid. I'm unhappy with the sound. Thus, my attempts at hooking up a home entertainment sound system to it.

Round 1. I purchased a cheap peace of crap from Best Buy(200 dollars) and tried setting this up. I can't remember exactly how I went about this, but I know that I had feed back through the speakers and it degraded the picture to the point that I thought I was watching rabbit ear antenna reception. Back to Best Buy in 12 hours or less for a refund. Truthfully, I think the problem here was quality of equipment more then my unknowing how to do things. But, I was still stupid for thinking that I could be cheap about my solution.

Ok, round 2. I went to Sams Club(Where I bought the TV) and purchased a Sansong home entertainment center(360 dollars). The only way I could figure how to do this was to run an HDMI cable from my cable box into the sansung receiver/DVD player and then another HDMI from the receiver into the TV. Grrrrrr, I received an invalid format when I tried this. I know the cables were ok because when I ran them directly from the cable box to the TV, I had a beautiful picture. There was no other input jacks in the back of the receiver to run cables from the cable box into it. HDMI was it. Now the quality of sound was excellent, no complaints. This worked just fine out of the receiver. But no picture at the TV.

Ok, I'm stupid. I readily admit it. Why the bloody **** didn't that work? I took it back, screw it. My frustration factor went from 0 to 10 in a matter of minutes. Gone, history. Bu by you peace of crap.

So, the score now is dan stupid 2, dan actually doing something right 1.

Is there a preferred way of setting something like this up? I thought the best way would be to run from the cable box to the amp/receiver then to the tv. Now, I have no bloody idea. ****, I have no idea what I should be buying at this point.

Any suggestions here? Other then drop kicking the P.O.S. down the steps?


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Dan, it is fun to kick and throw

by w2ktechman In reply to HDTV and home entertainme ...

these units around until they are in tiny pieces. Another thing, if it has a cord there is added benefit. You can swing it around with the cord several times and then hit it against the ground for an even bigger (frustrated) payback for being a POS.

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Ok, I finally settled on the KISS solution

by DanLM In reply to Dan, it is fun to kick an ...

Bought a simple Sony stereo receiver. 2 Sony speakers. Ran the audio out of the TV into the receiver. Far from being top of the line, but I live in a small apartment and I didn't want something extravagant. All I wanted was an improvement of the quality of sound, and that is what I got. Even when I hook back the DVD player, the sound is being directed from the TV into the stereo. I still will be able to have a better sound and I won't have to use 9 bloody remotes to control it.

Unfortunately where I live, Fkn receiver is picking up nill FM radio stations. I'll work on that tomorrow.

You know, if this was a computer. I would have reformatted multiple times. But, I guess that is exactly what I did. Because I just kept taking back the components until I got something that worked. Took me 4 tries, 4 different systems. But it works finally.

What a pain in the bloody back side.


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Dan, I just bought a HD TV and

by DadsPad In reply to Ok, I finally settled on ...

I used the cable box (had to be HD compatible box). I used the cable (I have cable) to the cable box and ran connectors from the cable box sound output to my receiver. I have my DVD and CD play each hooked separately to the receiver, so must select each to hear. Since I have a dual vcr/dvd player/recorder, I ran the cable from the cable box to the vcr/dvd to the tv. That way the cable box allows the vcr/dvd to override anything on playing on the tv.

If I had used hdmi cables would have had to play with it for a while, but the manual probably would have helped. The way I did it the manual wasn't needed to hook up..

You did say you had a box to connect to tv land did you not?

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dad, what I finaly did was

by DanLM In reply to Dan, I just bought a HD T ...

I actually thought about running it from the cable box(the sound), but my girlfriend already *****'s at me for too many remotes. So I ran the sound from the tv itself to the stereo receiver. That way both tv and movies sound can be controlled by the tv. I ran the stereo receiver power cord into the cable box extra outlet so that when ever I turn on the cable box, the stereo comes on too.

I tried to keep it really simple. There are days when I just don't think the hassle is worth it, and the simple solutions are the best. As it is, it sounds much better then it did for normal tv. And movies just flat out rock.

Another thing my girlfriend *****'s about is wires. roflmao, she doesn't want to see them. To be truthful, I was told that the picture is spouse to be better with the hdmi but I can't tell the difference. But, then again. My eyesight basically sucks.

Eh, it works. It wasn't jury rigged. And I'll be able to remember how I did it when I move from here. So, I'm happy.


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I see what you did and why

by DadsPad In reply to dad, what I finaly did wa ...

I asked my cable company should I use HDMI or the cable, they said I would not see a difference as the cable carries the High Def information anyway.

Neither my wife or I run the better sound all the time. It is just a waste of energy unless something is worth the better sound. With movies or music programs it is a big improvement, but for talk, just not worth the power to use.

I do know what you mean about the many remotes. But you lose features if you put everything on one remote. But, I just might try that some day. :)

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The only real features I lost was with the dvd player

by DanLM In reply to I see what you did and wh ...

Play, forward, reverse.... That, and when I mute the tv the sound from the stereo isn't muted. I'm wondering if that isn't a setting on the tv someplace, but I'm just not worried about it.

I don't know if it's me(hearing going from too much Joe Satrani turned up) or what. But, I was having issues hearing everything some days when sound came just from the tv. So, I listen to everything through this setup now.

Damn, blind as a bat and can't hear crap anymore. Those good old days are coming back to bite me in the a$$.


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Wish I did not know what you mean

by DadsPad In reply to The only real features I ...

I was an Air Traffic Controller in the service using WWII headsets. The doctor said I had hearing loss in the frequency most used for conversation. Now I have a hard time telling one persons voice on one phone from another, unless their voice is very distinct. Now that I am older the high end of the human hearing spectrum is being slowly banned from me. My wife thinks I am not hearing well, she is problably right

I am wearing glasses now, with all their problems, so that is bothersome also.

Like Snoopy said: Life's a *****!

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That should have worked...

by sMoRTy71 In reply to HDTV and home entertainme ...

Going HDMI from the cable box to the AV receiver to the TV should have worked.

I am wondering if the HDMI input was a shared input (where it has s-video or component or some other option all labeled as "Video 3"). I've seen situations where you have to go into the settings on your AV receiver and tell it to use a certain connector for the video input.

However, the fact that the sound was working, but the video didn't makes that seem less likely.

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The connections into the TV says HDMI to DVI

by DanLM In reply to That should have worked.. ...

And the dvi copywright error was what I was receiving. I don't know...

I actually wonder if it's the cable box is bad. I know it is refurbished. And I have noticed a few things that makes me wonder. But, I just am not knowledgeable enough to know for sure. So, when I got something to work I stopped while I was ahead.


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It may have been your cable

by sMoRTy71 In reply to The connections into the ...

Is the HDMI-DVI cable you are using HDCP compliant? If it can't pass the HDCP bit to your TV, it will block you from viewing certain types of protected content. May be worth trying another cable.

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