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    Help!!!

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    by admin ·

    ok, hit F10 for system recovery when my computer wouldn’t move from its compaq screen. now, no docs on c drive exist-account on MS gone; like a new computer!

    is there nothing i can do?

    tried freeware data recovery and had a computer guy over to try recovery. nothing.

    recently installed MS Office 2007- would that affect locating the data? most was in 2003 and from five years ago-oh, if i think about it it will get me down.

    it’s there right-i just have to get it out…?

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    • #2555756

      Clarifications

      by admin ·

      In reply to Help!!!

      Clarifications

    • #2555754

      System Recovery destroys ALL data on the partition …

      by older mycroft ·

      In reply to Help!!!

      So, in the strictest sense of the word – it’s gone. Back to factory condition.

      Desktop/tower systems tend to have large, unpartitioned drives: [i]lots of room for storage[/i], [b]lots of room for complacency.[/b]

      Laptops/Notebooks tended to have smaller drives, mostly having 2 partitions: System & Data. When the System Recovery was invoked, only the System partition was completely re-formatted (destroying everything) then freshly installed. However all data on the Data partition remained intact.

      Do you have a multi-partition system on this drive?

      If not, I’m afraid it’s all gone.

      • #2555752

        I’m glad you said that me old mycroft

        by tintoman ·

        In reply to System Recovery destroys ALL data on the partition …

        Cus I was amazed the other day when I did a system recovery on a Sony Vaio, The recovery worked fine and everything is hunky dorey, but the recovery partition was completely empty afterwards
        Does this mean that the user has to create the recovery section again after this operation?

        • #2555747

          Well, my trusty old Acer has been ‘recovered’ 3 times now …

          by older mycroft ·

          In reply to I’m glad you said that me old mycroft

          On each occasion the C: drive was returned to factory state, the D: drive remained intact, and the I: drive stayed as it was.
          ^^[For ‘drive’ read ‘partition’]^^

          Perhaps, as in my Acer’s case, you can’t ‘see’ the Recovery Partition. Check in Disk Management – it should be visible in there, it’ll be about 2 – 2.5GB.

      • #2575751

        thx

        by admin ·

        In reply to System Recovery destroys ALL data on the partition …

        yes i had partitions, tho i was saving this stuff on the c drive-fow waht reason compelled me to do this i do not know.

        live and learn 🙂

        • #2575735

          If any user tells you they dont know how you feel …

          by older mycroft ·

          In reply to thx

          They are liars.

          Or they’re kidding on about being a user! 😉

    • #2555753

      There’s a lesson to be learnt here

      by tintoman ·

      In reply to Help!!!

      isn’t there
      How many times have you ever been advised in some form or another to back up back up back up!!
      Anyway in your current position your only hope is to obtain some good recovery software (I use pc tools file recover myself)
      But be aware that the more you use the computer now and the more data you write to the hard drive the less chance there is of recovering anything
      And by the way that’s all you have – a chance, and a slim one at that.

    • #2555748

      The

      by rob miners ·

      In reply to Help!!!

      only way that I can think of is expensive. You do work for ED QLD, I hope as you have important documents stored for safe keeping. They might help foot the bill, have a talk to the Principal.

      http://www.ontrackdatarecovery.com.au/

      Edit: Lost track of States

      • #2576144

        A very pertinent statement, I’m often annoyed

        by computercookie ·

        In reply to The

        to find that when I click on reply all that you can see is the question and name, no location, although if it’s fictional you can obviously give them a fictional answer.

        How can you direct a person to a specific link if you don’t know there location!!!

        • #2576134

          Sh!t !! – Are these answers supposed to be truthful ? ;)

          by older mycroft ·

          In reply to A very pertinent statement, I’m often annoyed

          NT

        • #2574901

          In my first respose I mistakenly thought

          by rob miners ·

          In reply to A very pertinent statement, I’m often annoyed

          the OP was from the NT. NT has DEET. It wasn’t until I posted that I noticed Cairns. 🙂 I used to work for ED QLD. 🙂

        • #2574593

          RE [i] I used to work for ED QLD.[/i]

          by oh smeg ·

          In reply to In my first respose I mistakenly thought

          You have my sincerest Condolences for that Painful experience.

          ED QLD is almost enough reason to fully justify Suicide.

          Back in the days when I did school work ED QLD would constantly change their billing procedures around and only ever tell us after the bill had been submitted. This meant redoing the Bill again and resubmitting it with all the new procedures the second. third, fourth or whatever time. Of course this delayed payment for anything up to 18 months.

          Col

        • #2575776

          Never again

          by rob miners ·

          In reply to RE [i] I used to work for ED QLD.[/i]

          I couldn’t handle the politics. One man show 300 PC’s and two networks to manage. Non existent budgets. Three quotes for everything and alas it was always the lowest quote that was decided on which meant that I was constanly working with crap. What an experience. 🙂

        • #2575562

          Doesn’t matter what they buy

          by oh smeg ·

          In reply to Never again

          The Kids would turn it to rubbish very quickly and if you where unfortunate enough to have Adult Education at the school it was worse.

          When I was at Uni I worked fixing Sewing Machines and they had a School Contract. That was a major Doubled Edge Sword as if you could keep everything working perfectly or at least well you got a lot of New Sales but if you failed to Maintain the School Sewing Machines you got a Very Bad Reputation very quickly and it really wasn’t deserved. Well at least not for the place I was working at because they had good machines and not a pile of junk that should never have got near a school.

          That was back in the early 70’s so no chance of having Computers in School back then. But latter the Education Department dumped the Contract System so that the individual Teachers could buy what they liked. Now I understand that was a real Disaster as there was no way that any company could hope to Honor the Service Contract with a small number of machines scattered in widely distributed areas with nothing in between.

          God I’m glad that I missed that.

          Latter one company that I worked for had 20 Computers in a School to test what would be required. This was pushed by Sales who really didn’t have a clue and thought that they could make easy money even at Government Prices which are rediciously low. The reality is that the Schools ask for 3 Quotes, Tenders or whatever but the only place capable of supplying the items are the Country Distributes. Their Dealers may get hit with the Service Work maybe but the Distributes sell them cheaper than th Dealers can buy them so the best that a Dealer can do is organize the sale and honor the Service Side of the Contract, but they don’t need to if they don’t want o as they never actually sold the unit or made any money to cover the costs of the required Service.

          What I found was the worst was the constant ways that the Bureaucrats found to delay payment. One place that I worked at dumped the School Contract after a Takeover and the Service Dept was reduced to a 1 man show for all of QLD and they where loosing money hand over fist so they just didn’t offer a Tender at the next year when the Contract came up for renewal. They had to work for the next 12 months to support what they had sold and where obliged to fix but after that no more. I heard latter that 2 years after no longer being required to do any work they where still receiving payments for Service Work done while they had the Contract. They then offered the work to their Dealers if they wanted to do it so as the State Works Department or whatever it was called by then took their time to pay the dealers didn’t see any great rush to do the work and submit bills. The end result of all of this was the schools not having any working machines most of the time and the name being considered as Rubbish by the Kids as it never worked.

          After I had first hand experience of some of this and was told about the rest the Sales Department wanted to put Computers into Schools. I suggested that Sales could also Service & Repair them as I didn’t want my department to blow it’s budget while Sales was making money and ruining the ability to sell product to anyone else down the track. Dragging the Management of Sales into every Visit to the Test School to see what was happening made them see the error of their ways but not because the Repair Work Costs wouldn’t be coming out of their Budget but because the Units didn’t last a Week without being damaged. Only time I’ve seen Common Sense from a Sales Person who was thinking of their Commissions. 😀

          Col

        • #2575411

          We

          by rob miners ·

          In reply to Doesn’t matter what they buy

          leased fifty PC’s. They were fitted with Fujitsu Hard Drives. There was a controller problem with the batch. The company that we leased from was well aware of this problem. You would have thought that they could have supplied me with a couple of spare Drives so that I could keep the PC’s running. No I had to RTA the Drives and wait for a replacement. I ended up using two of my own Drives to keep them running. Twenty five Drives were replaced in a six month period.
          The really frustrating part about it was the fact that I could’t get the school to purchase a couple of Drives. They hadn’t been Budgeted for. Talk about hypocrisy.

        • #2575427

          that sounds frustrating!

          by admin ·

          In reply to RE [i] I used to work for ED QLD.[/i]

          i’m not with ED QLD, i tutor from home online and one-to-one. tho i used to work at the uni, and their lack of ethics was just as insulting.

        • #2575752

          location

          by admin ·

          In reply to A very pertinent statement, I’m often annoyed

          why does location matter if you are providing them with a link?

      • #2574900

        thx

        by admin ·

        In reply to The

        i run an online tutoring service and am a freelance writer. i have some of the stuff on dvd, but a large chunk of writing…

        if the expense is feasible i will do it. till then i will not store on the c drive

        thx

        • #2574874

          Youre Welcome :)

          by rob miners ·

          In reply to thx

          .

    • #2575960

      OK On Tack West End Brisbane is your only real chance

      by oh smeg ·

      In reply to Help!!!

      And even that isn’t a good chance but they do very good work so if it can be recovered with some Forensic Application they will recover it. Of course they don’t want the NB just the HDD so you’ll need another one to work with and your Compaq Recovery Disc as you’ll loose the Recovery Partition. They charge $900.00 for a Quote and this gets taken off the Finial Bill.

      However as the drive is working it should be reasonably cheap to recover what is possible to within reason. The last dead drive that I had then pull data of cost 46K but that was a rush job that was done in 24 hours for a Tax Audit.

      But if you work for QLD ED and really need to recover the data QLD Police Computer Crimes Division can read every bit of Data ever written to a HDD. This requires dismantling the Drive coating the Platters with Green Goo and then reading off the platters in a Special Machine. Not sure how far it can go but I’ve been told that they can recover everything with out problem. As this is used for Computer Crimes it’s Expensive I really wouldn’t even like to begin to guess on the costs involved I’ve just been told that [b]It’s Expensive & if you need to ask you Can’t Afford It.[/b]

      Naturally you need a new HDD to replace the one that gets destroyed and not returned. But as this is accepted by the Courts as Evidence it must be fairly good.

      Col

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