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    Help, I waited to long


    by jmkohm ·

    I finalized my plans about six weeks ago but didn’t get around to ordering the parts. Now they seem obsolete.

    The P35, DDR2 ASUS P5K PREMIUM/WIFI Motherboard Should be replaced with a P45. Any suggestions for a comparable DDR2, P45 or x38 ASUS or Gigabyte board. The WIFI is not important.

    Also I settled on the DIAMOND Viper Radeon HD 3870 512MB GDDR4 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready video card but suspect I’d be better served with a hd4850 board. I chose the Diamond because it had VIVO. Any suggestions on a 4850 board?

    I’ll be using a Q9450 CPU with 4-8 gig memory and vista 64bit

    My system will be a multitasking unit. My needs in order of priority are:
    1. Converting, editing, rendering 35 years of photos (slide, print, digital) and video (film, VHS, various camera formats including some HD) and creating DVDs for my grandkids.
    2. Media Center stuff including using a large 1080p TV, streaming video and music.
    3. Gaming. I don’t do much but would spend a little more to have a more capable system.
    4. Surfing, and general purpose work (word processing, spreadsheets, scanning) while doing 1 and 2 above.

    Thanks, I promise I’ll order soon.

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    • #2911950


      by jmkohm ·

      In reply to Help, I waited to long


    • #2911948

      Just an observation on my part …

      by older mycroft ·

      In reply to Help, I waited to long

      If 6 weeks is sufficient time for you to consign your chosen components to the ‘obsolete bin’, another couple of months and you’ll feel the same again.

      If your interest is in danger of becoming an obsession of keeping up with the latest technology, perhaps you ought to draw a line in the virtual sand, thereby remaining on your own side of it.

      I would suggest you forget about ‘upgrading’ since you clearly have no basis whatsoever on which to judge whether this action will provide you with any more pleasure than your previous plans.

      If as you say, you [i]”don’t do much gaming”[/i], then your existing specification is already above and beyond the capabilities of many users who are considered to be avid gamers.

      Just my opinion mind you. 😉

      • #2911944

        To busy

        by jmkohm ·

        In reply to Just an observation on my part …

        I’m retired and live in a very active community. Time flies. I built, and maintained, my first computer 45 years ago (CDC 160A, 6400 and 3600)and spent 33 years managing computer operations at Mich St Univ so have a working knowledge of how fast things change. I think it’s prudent to buy the latest technology available. I know as soon as I go DDR2 DDR3 will drop in price because DDR4 came out. Thanks for your concern.

    • #2911914

      My thoughts

      by jamesrl ·

      In reply to Help, I waited to long

      Don’t get sucked into the marketing hype.

      I just bought a 4850, for example. Fine card. Is it better than a 3870? Perhaps on paper, but in real life use you may have trouble seeing a difference unless you push the card to its limits, which your type of decribed usage will not do. The 4850 only has GDDR3 memory, the 3870 has GDDR4 – is that the end of the world? Probably not for most people.

      As for manufacturers, well I think thats a mugs game – all of them make boards within a set of specs set out by the chip maker. Some nVidia boards have factory overclocking, but I wouldn’t pay for that since there is software that will do the same thing. I bought a Sapphire board, and Sapphire makes the ATI boards, so they are ok. But frankly I’d buy from almost any of the makers.

      Before committing to a 64 bit OS, I would make sure that you have drivers for everything that have been tested in 64 bit, and that the softwrae you want to use – especially the media centre stuff is 64 bit tested and certified.

      Either card would be fine for gaming.


    • #2912696

      The only real problem here is the 64 Bit OS

      by oh smeg ·

      In reply to Help, I waited to long

      Yes I know it allows you to fit more RAM but a lot of Hardware doesn’t have 64 Bit Drivers so things like Scanners and Printers may need replacing which as they are not listed above I’m assuming you already have.

      The Interface for the Video Input may also be a problem with no or not very good 64 Bit Drivers. The same applies to the Video Card which may have 64 Bit Drivers but not be as fully developed as the 32 Bit ones are and so you don’t get all the functionality of the Video Card. That is quite common for the High End Video Cards so you should be aware of this unless you are happy to write your own drivers of course.

      Personally I don’t have any problems with he parts that you listed but they are very high end for what you are saying you want to do may be a bit of overkill there and you are paying for more hardware than you actually need but if that makes you happy I’m not one to argue.

      Just make sure that you can get all the 64 Bit Drivers that you need and that your preferred Software will work on the 64 Bit OS preferably be Native 64 Bit Applications. I’m not sure of to many of the High End Graphics Packages that are things like Corel Draw X4 or Adobe CX3 are not native 64 Bit Packages or at least they weren’t the last time I looked.

      You may be better off with a 32 Bit OS and Software as it’s likely to do the job required and be able to use any existing Hardware & Software that you already have.


      • #2913618

        I’ve decided

        by jmkohm ·

        In reply to The only real problem here is the 64 Bit OS

        Ive decided to go with the ASUS Combo P45 P5Q-Pro MB and ASUS Radeon HD 4850 EAH4850/HTDI/512M Video Card from newegg.

        Is there a better choice of memory than
        OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2RPR800C44GK – Retail

        or $20 more

        CORSAIR XMS2 DHX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C4DHX – Retail

        • #2913318

          Well personally I only use Corsair

          by oh smeg ·

          In reply to I’ve decided

          But that’s a Personal choice. It’s just that I have fewer problems raise their head and long ago cheap RAM did cause a lot of Problems with Timing Issues.

          Since I started using Legend then Corsair RAM I haven’t had these problems and when I get a possible Timing Problem with a customers computer replacing the RAM with Corsair cures the problem. That is just personal though.


        • #2913300

          A note on the vid card

          by dumphrey ·

          In reply to I’ve decided

          Vista may disable any HD content (blueray etc) since this card uses an HDMI adapter from a dvi port instead of native HDMI. In spite of what the card manufacturer may want you to think, it does not meet true HD specs with out a native HDMI output.

          This may be moot since you did not list blueray in your inital post, but I thought I would throw it out there since you mentioned media center.

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