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Help!! Our Marketing dept is moving to MAC

By Jessie ·
I do high-level PC troubleshooting, networking and server support here for my company, and I've just been informed that VP of our Marketing dept wants to move to MACs. I can't say that I blame them. From everything I've ever heard about the MAC OS, it's nice & stable & handles graphic intensive applications very well.

My only problem is, I've NEVER worked on a MAC... One would assume that the hardware works basically the same, except for it's interface with the OS. I need to VERY QUICKLY learn the MAC OS -- and how to integrate it with our Exchange/Active Directory/W2k workstations/W2k3 Servers.

So... any resources, good books, classes, whatever... that you can recommend, would be infinitely appreciated.


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Not up on current but

by JamesRL In reply to Help!! Our Marketing dep ...

I used to work in a mixed Mac PC environment ten years ago.

I'd have to say your first priority is getting your hands on a Mac. You need hands on experience.

Second, spend some time on Apple's website - they typically have a closer relationship with partners than Microsoft, so I am sure you can find links there. The Apple user community is pretty tight - you will find others out there that are willing to help a neophyte.

Mac Hardware is typically more plug and play than Windows - Apple hardware of course is very well integrated, and third parties have to use standards so that third party is almost as seamless as Apple hardware - typically in firmware.

I would suggest you look for a computer show with Apple content, visit Mac dealers, read Mac World, get a Mac on your desk and try using the standard apps on the Mac instead of the PC.

File format interchange is a constant battle. Even with MS Office on the Mac, when a new PC version of an application comes out, often the Mac release lags and you sometimes get conversion issues. There are third party tools that can do batch file conversions - your migrating users might want to take advantage of them.


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by Jaqui In reply to Help!! Our Marketing dep ...

designed to seamlessly integrate with m$ systems.

ms office runs on mac
IE runs on mac

the hardware is was ibm's ppc, now it's risc for the cpu, scsi drives.
cableless interiors with g5's.
( docking port connection of internal drives, not even a power cable )

they steal the other 2 mouse buttons and force you to work against the design purpose of a mouse and ADD keystrokes to get the functionality of a 3 button mouse.

osx is what apple did with a bsd distro, but it ain't even close to being bsd, it's nothing but winders in an uglier box..

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Appletalk et al

by JamesRL In reply to appletalk

The constant complaint of PC networking folks is that Appletalk it really chatty - lots of overhead. But yes its been able to integrate into an MS environment for some time.

MS Office owes a lot to the Mac. Back when Word on the PC was a command driven green screen application, Word for the Mac, and Excel were great Mac tools. IE was actually a Mac only browser that another company developed and MS bought.

The CPU has been the IBM Power PC, which is RISC for some time. One of the reasons the Mac still dominates in graphics is that the Power PC/Risc architecture is very strong in math, better than equivalent Pentiums, though so was the previous Motorola 68XXX chipset before.

The Mac used to be exclusively SCSI and used to have a propritary keyboard/mouse bus(Apple Desktop Bus) but now is IDE, USB, and PCI/AGP to save money.

OSX really started many years before Linux became popular, and really picked up steam when Steve Jobs came back from Next(which was Unix based too). It did take an extremely long time to come to market. It was an attempt to take the existing interface that Mac users have gotten used to since day 1(1984) and graft it on top of a BSD core. The one button mouse is because there was a one button mouse in 1984, when mice on a PC platform was unheard of(though Unix workstations of the era had 3 button mice). Mac users double click and click which does make some more choices available.


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Get online but not here!

by DC_GUY In reply to Help!! Our Marketing dep ...

There is a huge Macintosh community on the internet, lots of BBSs, lots of gurus sitting there waiting to help people like you. Apple users are all proselytes who want to help the rest of the human race see the light.

Do a little googling and you'll find everything you want. I'd help you myself but I've only been using a Mac for about six months. Still you'd have to shoot me to get me to ever live with Grungeware again.

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but cableless cases?!?!

by Jaqui In reply to Get online but not here!

how can you trust a computer in a god awful ugly case, that has no cables connecting drives to the mobo.

those bay socket things corrode due to the humidity in the air and electrical current passing through them.

I'll stick with my linux/unix/bsd pc thanks.
no m$ cra$hware here.

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by Jessie In reply to but cableless cases?!?!

just because there's no cables doesn't mean corrosion is exclusive to MAC hardware. I don't know how many computers I've "fixed" by reseating cables, where I KNOW that the only problem was oxidization on the pins, and the simple act of pulling off the cable and plugging it back in scraped enough of the crap off to make contact again.

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oh, I know

by Jaqui In reply to Corrosion

I just have a low opinion on proprietary hardware.

and on the physical design of macs.

I know they are good machines, that last a long time with minimal upkeep.

but I wouldn't buy one of those ugly things.

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Mixed history

by JamesRL In reply to oh, I know

Apple has had some stunningly good designs, and some real stinkers.

I remember getting my first Power PC, a 9500(equivalent to an early Pentium). Of course, I bought extra ram, and was dismayed that I had to take out the drive framework to install RAM.

On the other hand I remember one of their earlier pizzabox style designs at a rpess launch, and a non techie demoed putting it together from components(Motherboard, case, power supply, hard disk, monitor keyboard mouse) without any tools and booting it within one minute - brilliant.

I also remember the fact that the early all in one macs (Mac Plus, SE)had some rough metal edges and i often cut myself when disconnecting the power supply.

I don't have a low opinion of proprietary hardware - it works.

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Still as happy and sunshinnie as always

by Chief Bottle Washer In reply to oh, I know

You must sulking.

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Something wrong with this picture

by amcol In reply to Help!! Our Marketing dep ...

I'm going to take a wild guess and say that your company lacks any form of enterprise architecture plan, doesn't have strong strategic IT management, and has a cowboy culture.

You're asking the technical community how to get MAC knowledgable when you should be asking your own bosses why this is being allowed to happen at all. If the VP of Marketing unilaterally decided to move his/her department to the MAC platform, why does that person get to make or violate IT policy? If IT management sanctioned this move in advance, why are you being asked to scramble around after the fact instead of being solicited beforehand to see if you already had the requisite skill set?

Either way, you have my sympathy. This is not a good organizational situation.

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