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Help send some more veterans to school.

By seanferd ·
No, this isn't spam. I post this here because I know folks here want to support our soldiers, so...

<i>One click could mean $250,000 for new veterans.

This month, IAVA is competing to win a grant in the Pepsi Refresh Challenge. If we win, we'll use the grant to help send more new veterans to college on the new GI Bill.

But we need your support. Over a thousand other non-profits are also competing for the grand prize, so every vote counts.</i>

Voting ends the 31st of August.

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by boxfiddler Moderator In reply to Help send some more veter ...

the 'Like' button?


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vote(s) from me too

by .Martin. In reply to Help send some more veter ...

:-bd <- my thumbs up

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Thanks guys.

by seanferd In reply to Help send some more veter ...

You rock.

i knew you would. :)

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EDIT: *More than* One Question:

by NexS In reply to Help send some more veter ...

Isn't being an officer their choice? Didn't they choose to join the army? Isn't military their occupation?

Sure, it's a nice idea, but surely ex-military are both, (1)still have a good salary coming in, and (2) not stupid - I mean they aren't loafheads who can't find work for themselves.

I can't speak from experience, but I can only imagine that non military life would be very hard to get used to after years and years of structured life. Possibly very similar to the situation ex-prisoners find themselves in after being released from prison (take The Shawshank Redemption, for example).

I don't mean to sound negative, but the question has to be asked.

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I too am confused.

by CharlieSpencer In reply to EDIT: *More than* One Que ...

"If we win, we'll use the grant to help send more new veterans to college on the new GI Bill."

When I was receiving GI Bill assistance, the checks came straight from the federal government. While I realize Uncle Sugar changes his veterans benefits program more than I change my ... cable TV provider, I wasn't aware the GI Bill required matching funds.

I can find no mention of this on the IAVA site:

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No, & Yes...

by dawgit In reply to EDIT: *More than* One Que ...

To your #1, No, ex-military members are not paid, they're done through, and no more bennies from the military. There is the VA however, but that's pretty much starting all over in a separate and new Burocraty. Exception being those who have actually retired from the Military... different kritters, and far fewer than those who just finish their obligations and wish to return to a normal life.
#2 Yes, they are not stupid. But the skill-set match-up from a job in the military and what is likely to get one a job in the civilian work force is like arriving from the planet Mars.
In some ways there is a similarity to a person being released from prison, except; many prisoners receive readjustment help, halfway houses, vocational training, etc.
(I got a parking ticket an hour after I was retired)
And I'm glad you asked the question. It needs to be asked. (and answered) -d

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I see

by NexS In reply to No, & Yes...

If they finish up a term and don't make it a career, then they're told 'thank you, bye', and that's the end of it.

That being the case, they can't have been away for so long that they forget what normal life is like. It'd be like (but not exclusively) getting back on the bike.

Would you expect ex-military to do the police exams or the fire dept things? I could imagine if I'd come back from war, those would be the types of jobs I'd be looking at.

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Some of them went in straight from high school.

by CharlieSpencer In reply to I see

and never lived 'a normal life' as an independent adult. Others may leave the military after 12 years (two 6-year enlistments), and what constitutes a 'normal life' will certainly have changed.

It takes twenty years of active service to be eligible for drawing retirement pay.

Few military personnel were in job specialties that would translate to public safety jobs. For example, I was at times an artillery observer and an artillery 'aimer' (to put 'Fire Direction' in civilian terms). About the only real world job that qualifies me for is working those pop-guns they use to clear avalances from ski slopes.

The whole key is to pick a job skill you can use in the real world after you get out. Most officers and senior sergeants will acquire the management skills to fit into the business world more or less, but if you're a 'One and Done' (one enlistment, usually six years), a 'real world' skill is an asset. Right now anyone with military medical experience is a hot hire.

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That's a clearer picture

by NexS In reply to Some of them went in stra ...

I don't pretend to know what it's like, but can unemployment/student benefits not be sought for these ex-military folk? Can they not apply for Study allowances like other people?

Or is study allowance not a US thing? (we have it here in AUS)

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This program is not intended to assist officers or retirees

by NickNielsen In reply to EDIT: *More than* One Que ...

As I read it, the primary intent is to assist those enlistees who take the "four-and-out" path of military service. Unless they incur a disability on active duty, they have no money coming in from their military service. Also, benefits are greatly reduced from the WW2/Vietnam era GI bill.

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