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Hey, Mozilla, ya screwed the pooch,

By Jaqui ·
with the Seamonkey browser suite V2.x on GNU/Linux.

in several ways.

1) random crashes of browser, even with only 1 tab open it will just crash when clicking a link on a website.

2) message BARS. web pages jump around enough with the delayed display of dynamic content, there is zero reason the browser should aggravate this by throwing message bars across the top of the view pane.

3) ( the worst yet ) Terminate and Stay Resident. Sorry, but NO ONE wants to have the system lose resources with that type of stupidity. and it can't be more obvious than check your email, clear the inbox so no unread messages, close the browser suite down completely and 8 HOURS later open it to find that Seamonkey has been CHECKING EMAIL while it should have been SHUT DOWN.

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No updates yet for Orca

by Slayer_ In reply to Hey, Mozilla, ya screwed ...

So I am unaffected. Thanks for the warning though.

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by Jaqui In reply to No updates yet for Orca

they won't change the message bar stupidity, they think it's a "great thing".
since firesucks and infernal exploiter both use them.

the random crashes, well until a core is generated that can be used to figure out where it's coming from, they can't fix it.

the TSR stupidity, they can address, but most likely won't. They with call that idiocy a feature rather than treat it as a bug.

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oh and number 4

by Jaqui In reply to Hey, Mozilla, ya screwed ...

which all other browsers by all other groups also screwed up on.

4) Trusted CA list. sorry, but unless the CA is going to be a neutral 3rd party to protect the consumer, EVERY website using ssl should have to have the user accept the certificate. The CA issuing having ZERO control over the business that owns the website's customer service / business practices.

All the CA list is doing is MISLEADING the user into thinking the CA is there to help with bad buness practices or dealing with a scam website, when the CA does nothing of the sort.

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Yeah, I'd rather do that myself.

by seanferd In reply to oh and number 4

I'm sure most people wouldn't, but what does an on/off toggle and a little information cost?

Thing is, I don't trust any of the big CAs anyway, but I'm still going to go to the sites I want to go to. The average user should at least "get the picture" though.

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the on off toggle

by Jaqui In reply to Yeah, I'd rather do that ...

might be nice, if it was a default to off for using the list.

all I do is delete the list.

when you hit a website login page with no warning, you know it's not secure.

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by seanferd In reply to the on off toggle

When I started my second life with computers, I did that all the time, on each machine I acquired.

The second-last machine I acquired had all sorts of crazy certificates stored (never mind the CA list). It was previously a on corporate domain.

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just a blip

by Jaqui In reply to Hey, Mozilla, ya screwed ...

to bring thread back up

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I've noticed that.

by seanferd In reply to Hey, Mozilla, ya screwed ...

Not because of mail, which is something else I choose to check manually, but because it starts so fast the second time it is loaded.

Message bars- yeah, hate them. As we have discussed elsewhere, I also prefer the SMDB to a message bar. :-&

I haven't been able to get it to crash yet, but i will likely soon find out on my next Linux install, as I can't even get the sucker to compile in BSD (from the Ports, of course).

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