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by thechas
You usually need a router.
The reason is that you can only log onto most ISP accounts with 1 computer at a time on a given phone line.
The router logs onto the account, and each computer logs onto the router to access the shared connection.The other problem with a hub is that it may dissconnect the computer from the modem from time to time. This can cause a loss of packet data, as the modem does not have a data buffer.
If all you need, is to use different computers at differnt times to connect, then you may be able to use a network switch.
Still, you will have the best results, and flexability if you use a router.
As an added benefit, many routers also include firewalls to protect your computers from hackers.
Chas
by thechas
A side comment to freecpusa
Yes, I understand that commercial routers simply allow the sharing of a single IP address.
Consumer DSL / Cable routers DO handle the log-on function to the ISP.
You have to set them up to with the log-on and password.
Then, when you go to connect to the internet, the router sends the log-on information to the modem.
Also, the $50 for a DSL /Cable router is cheap in comparison to the cost of leaving a 2nd PC running 24/7 just so the other PCs in the house can have ready access to the DSL connection.
Chas
by svnrajind
by freecpusa
You can use the hub, but you will have to do some extra stuff to your computer. First off, leave the DSL in the computer just as it is. DONT TOUCH IT or put it IN THE HUB... it is OK just the way it is. Open your computer, install a second ethernet card. then download analogx proxy server. you can get this from download.com or a lot of places. then plugin a cord from the 2nd ethernet to the hub, and configure all the other computers.
Your computer's 2nd ethernet card's IP address should be set to something like this--
10.0.0.1 (IP)
255.255.0.0 (subnet mask)
then when you get other people to login though you, they will have to configure internet explorer (if they are using netscape email me and I will explain it to you) click on tools, properties, then connections, lan settings, proxy server, manual config.
Enter in your IP in the first white box, in the second, for most of them you will enter 6588, (first is left and second is right)... FTP and secure will be different. FTP is 21 and secure is 1080.
If you have any prob's email me, nipirakisa@bigmunky.com
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by freecpusa
I forgot, on the subject of the first thred answer... ROUTERS are not what you think.
Routers work with IP's they do not work with logins or anything else like that. If you think that is what they do, then go back to NET TECH school. Routers will change 1 global ip so that you can use it ammong many local IP's. It splits it up for you, furthermore, many DSL routers come with a HUB and SWITCH built in. They will also have a DHCP server sometimes also. I have not done much with them sinceat home I use the above cheaper method ($20 for the hub $6 for the card, hey where can you go wrong, and I have 16 connections.)
HUBS and SWITCHES just split up 1 physical connection. Hubs are not as good as switches. Swtiches quickly switch the connection between each of the ports on the switch. If there are 100, then it will switch it at 100, sometimes you can manage them and all that junk. Most people have 5 port, that is all you have to know. It means really fast, faster than you will know, it will switch it between those 5 ports.
Hubs dont do this. They split the connection. General rule, share the bandwith with hubs, keep the bandwith with switches. If its a 10/100 switch, it means every port will get 100 MBPS max, whether 1 or 100 clients is on. Hubs are different, if there is 1 then the 1 client will get all the bandwidth, but if there are two, then 50 50 and so on. THis is of course only if they are trying to access at the same time. If no one is sending packets, then its irellevant. Even if you dont think you are, most often you are sending. Just thought I would add.
by svnrajind
by reference
First of all I agree with answer #1, your best bet is to go with a router. No question. Now a days they're pretty cheap with switches built-in! It's a slam-dunk. Answer #2 will also work, if you don't mind doing the extra work, and have the knowledge to troubleshoot when something goes wrong.
I apologize for veering off the question subject to inject this little comment to freecpusa@yahoo.com
your answer works, there?s no question about that, but so does answer #1, and #1 is much simpler an approach for someone who is not as familiar with networking (as is the case with the user asking the question...as indicated by the question itself!)
There's really no need to take a shot at someone and boast your knowledge of simple networking techniques to someone who is just trying to help another user. Answer #1 obviously saw by the question, that the simpler approach would be a router; you on the other hand, ignored this simple little fact, and started spouting out irrelevant comments justto prove you know a little something! And plugged your own website in the end! What does your site have to do with the original question????
Allow me the suggest this.. Next time you answer a question, leave your arrogance back at the water cooler, and try to understand the question, and the user asking it. This will help keep techrepublic one of the best sites to visit for peer interaction!
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