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By eburke ·
If a person ahs been certified by the PMI but has never been on an IT project team, would you even consider hiring him/her to manage an IT project?

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by apotheon In reply to I T Project Team

I'd offer a job as a team member, maybe, but not as a project manager.

The people I'd be most likely to hire for project management would be people who've had extensive experience with open source projects or have experience with small, dynamic development teams that have shown a talent for adaptability.

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Certification requires experience

by raelayne In reply to I T Project Team

Not sure how someone got certified without experience -- that's one of the criteria. Are you sure the person is certified, or did he or she print up a certificate on the home computer?

And no, don't do it. The #1 contributer to project success is an experienced project manager. Why bother if you aren't going to do everything you can to ensure success?

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Experience?

by duckboxxer In reply to Certification requires ex ...

Does a PMP cert require IT experience or just project management experience?

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PMP Experience

by moemar In reply to Experience?

The PMI requires project experience. It does not necessarily have to be IT related.

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But maybe the question is whether non-IT experience ...

by raelayne In reply to I T Project Team

If you're asking whether it's essential for the project manager to have IT experience, I'd say maybe not.

I worked on a huge project once that was in trouble, and the PM (a favorite programmer of the execs and good-old-boy) was replaced by a consultant who was a top-notch PM, but had limited technology project experience.

He succeeded fabulously because he knew his limitations, was a great judge of people, and had the good sense to trust the people who knew technology to make technology decisions. So how did he succeed? He asked great questions, was very organized, always told the truth -- to the team and to upper management -- didn't over-promise, quickly dealt with issues brought to him, etc. Because he had limited technology experience himself, he did a great job of explaining things in terms they could understand to the business execs.

You know some business execs tend to distrust technologists because it all sounds like magic to them. Because they can't understand it, they can't control it, and that really sends some execs over the edge. So sometimes it's good to have a non-tech person leading a project because the execs trust what they say. As long as that person knows he's getting the real scoop from the people who know technology, all is well.

Admittedly only one experience in a long career of projects, but it is possible. Note that none of this has to do with PMI. You're looking for a certain style and certain personal characteristics.

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Tell me more

by DC Guy In reply to I T Project Team

PMI certification counts for zero with me. I have not been impressed with the people who have it.

Which leaves me with... nothing. Nothing that you've told me qualifies him for the job. He must have something else going for him or you wouldn't be considering him at all. What is it?

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Depends on other project experience

by ebeck In reply to I T Project Team

If the person in question has significant PM experience, yes. Contrary to other posts here, the fundemental process of PM is what you really need, teamed with experts within the project for IT areas. It's not as great as the perfect IT PM person, but could even be better, since they could challenge the ways of doing things that an IT resource might assume is the only way to do something.
Consider the type of IT projects as well - which are so diverese alone that no one IT PM is always the best bet. Actual software/game dev projects are a bit different, but still, a great PM from other fields could still work, as long as they have some technical knowledge.

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by rkwan In reply to I T Project Team

A project is a project, no matter it is an IT project or not. We should consider if the project env is suitable this guy.

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Depending

by rob mekel In reply to I T Project Team

It all depends on what kind of project it will be.

If it is a project where the PM needs hands on skills, I would strongly discourage you to hire this PM. If otherwise I see no objection to hire this PM, as the PMI certification should guarantee that. But make damn sure that he has the qualification and has track record of it.

Rob

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What is you goal?

by -=Kurt=- In reply to I T Project Team

PMP Certification is (of course) only one of the criteria you could use when evaluating the PM candidates.

Often what looks like an IT project is not. For example: A CRM project is about good customer relations not IT, a portal project is about knowledge integration not IT. IT may be an important mechanism for delivery, but it is not the goal in it self. A good PM must have a strong experience in the area that defines the business goal of the project.

In addition a good PM must be aware that project management basically is a systems approach to management where integration of many different teams and skills is essential. In a typical "IT" project you will have persons from business areas, marketing, customers, design, development, testing, operations etc. In contrast, most operational management is analytical by decomposing a subject area into specialities of technical proficiency. (This requires a different management strategy.) The typical ?IT manager? has an analytical management style focusing on technical proficiency.

So what does a PMP certification give you?
It verifies that the candidate has:
1) A bachelor's degree and 4500 hours of PM experience (or 7500 hours of PM experience if the candidate only have high school)
2) The person has formal training in project management and has passed an exam. In addition the person has work experience in all project management areas covered by the exam.
3) The candidate must continually update her knowledge in project management
4) The person is bound by an ethical code of conduct.

In my opinion I would primarily be focusing on experience in the area that defines the goal of the project and secondary on PM experience and PMP certification. However, the PM must have some of both backgrounds.

-=Kurt=-

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