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By all means...

by pizza7 In reply to I'd like to answer pizza7 ...

Let's continue on....btw....when Republican Governors don't accept Federal money that is a good think. It is OUR TAX money. You can't take money from one pocket and put it in another. That's not growth. Growth comes from the private sector not government.

You may not want to take a welfare check but you expect a lot from government and you want the high regulations. Nanny states fail. Whether or not you believe in this...we are ultimately responsible for ourselves. This country was founded on less government, less taxes, personal responsibility, and liberty. Government is not the solution to our problems.

http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/103-344661

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"Government is not the solution to our problems."

by boxfiddler Moderator In reply to By all means...

No lie, there.

Taken on its own...

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gag ~ NT

by PurpleSkys In reply to I'd like to answer pizza7 ...
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Really?

by jck In reply to I'd like to answer pizza7 ...

Let's continue on....btw....when Republican Governors don't accept Federal money that is a good think. It is OUR TAX money. You can't take money from one pocket and put it in another. That's not growth. Growth comes from the private sector not government.

Let's see.

A) Rick Scott turning down billions for a high speed rail project that would have made 1000s of jobs in Florida for the next decade...meant that all those tax dollars went where?

Did they get given back to tax payers? no.
Did they get used to pay down the debt? no.

Oh wait...they got reallocated to...someone who'd spend them and make jobs so that people pay taxes and...holy smokes...government money make jobs? No way!

B)
Rocketry was funded in this country by the government...not private industry.
Space exploration was funded by government...not private industry.
Your national highway system was funded by the government...not private industry.
Your HDTV standard was...well, it was actually pushed by the government cause the Japanese were over a decade ahead...not by industry.
Oil exploration? Oh yeah, that's partially funded by...your government giving tax breaks and "grants" to private corps. Just like pharmaceutical corps get too.

Gee...why didn't private companies pay for things that would grow more jobs and advance and grow our country?

Oh that's right...their job is to return the maximum dividend...not grow jobs or local or a national economy.

So...you're wrong...on both accounts there.

You may not want to take a welfare check but you expect a lot from government and you want the high regulations. Nanny states fail. Whether or not you believe in this...we are ultimately responsible for ourselves. This country was founded on less government, less taxes, personal responsibility, and liberty. Government is not the solution to our problems.

I am responsible for me...and whom I choose to help.

Don't blame me because you have a scarred, black heart.

As for this country being founded on something, it was not founded on less government at all. Principles of our political system's style of partisanship evolved that debate.

But, our country was founded on freedom of self-governance. We wanted freedom from taxation with no say, having no input into how we're ran, etc. It's not that Thomas Jefferson and James Madison wanted LESS...they wanted a SELF government that worked for US...the people.

Now does spending your tax dollars building a highway in Iowa do anything for you? Not directly.

But when Home Depot runs out of Pella faucets for you to shop, you sure will whine about it...won't you?

Being a country of 1 worrying about your 1 life and 1 home...is what keeps this country from growing as a whole...not government spending $.035 of your federal tax on a traffic signal in Anchorage, Alaska.

Get over yourself. It's working together that made America great...not being worried that someone has more apples in their bucket than you do.

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That entire mindset reminds me of an old joke

by NickNielsen In reply to Really?

It was 1962. Sergei was walking through the forest outside Stalingrad and found an old lamp. He was a little short of cash (who wasn't, then and there?) and decided he could polish it up and sell it on the black market.

As he polished it, a genie emerged and told him he had three wishes. Sergei thought for a few moments and said "Well, my neighbor has a goat..."

The genie replied, "Oh, so you want a goat, too?"

"No, I want you to kill my neighbor's goat."

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****, the flaming -INTERNET- started as a federal project.

by CharlieSpencer In reply to Really?

Amazon, et al, will be surprised to know the technology that made them possible didn't create any jobs. Most modern aviation technologies are the result of research done under government contracts for military aircraft.

If the government doesn't create jobs, why do all those towns scream when the feds close a military base?

Government isn't the solution to ALL problems, and the list that it is the solution to is quite small. That doesn't mean there are no economic benefits from it.

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Exactly, Palmetto

by jck In reply to Hell, the flaming -INTERN ...

And, look at all the jobs private enterprise made from a federally-funded project that was opened to the private sector.

People who think that only private sector causes growth have the same belief that Wal-Mart is the single largest employer in the United States. That's not true.

The largest employer is the United States government.

Wal-Mart: approx. 1,400,000 employees
United States government: 2,823,777 (that's just civilian)

And, everything the US government does benefits the citizens...not just a select group of people called shareholders. As well, government employees average pay and benefits total averaging about 73% of a private sector compensation level.

So pizza7, your government employs people and saves money doing it. They are more cost effective than private sector.

Still don't believe me? Compare the cost of an average special forces soldier to that of a corporate hired soldier. You'll find that you will pay for a civilian contractor with special forces combat experience is almost twice that paid to a member of the United States special forces.

Guess we should hire private corps to do everything then, eh? Real cost savings.

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Meanwhile...

by AnsuGisalas In reply to Exactly, Palmetto

the other thread was pulled, did someone flag it as spam, perhaps?

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One could hope.

by CharlieSpencer In reply to Meanwhile...

I personally didn't see anything offensive in it, but it was so frickin' long it could have had links to the Klan or neo-Nazis for all anyone could tell.

What gets me most about this dude, and I've said it before, is his hypocrisy. He screams the government should control gas prices, then rants about Obama being a socialist. Most of the people tossing that word around don't have a clue what socialism looks like.

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True...

by jck In reply to One could hope.

And, most have never seen what their peen looks like past their big gut too. :^0

Think I need to go home. Breakfast hasn't sat too well. Been in the loo 3 times this morning.

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