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    Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

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    by maxwell edison ·

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    Former Canadian Minister of Defense and Deputy Prime Minister, Paul Hellyer, thinks so.

    “UFOs, are as real as the airplanes that fly over your head …… I’m so concerned about what the consequences might be of starting an intergalactic war, that I just think I had to say something.”

    –Paul Hellyer

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/20051124/bs_prweb/prweb314382_1

    In the spirit of keeping discussions “technical” in nature, how can the IT community prepare for such an intergalactic war waged against an even smarter ET community? ETs certainly have AT which would have our own IT community working not only OT, but certainly UT as well.

    And if an evacuation is necessary, to where would we evacuate? (And let’s not even think about the “food chain” thing.)

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    • #3122633

      well

      by bob in calgary ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      We could write a virus on a mac that would destroy their technology… But that might not work as they may have seen the movie

      so

      how about attacking their immune system with the flu …….. no wait that’s been done too.

      As for evacuation If they can travel across space to get here then there probably won’t be anywhere to hide.

      Guess all we can do is have a big party invite them down for a few beers and take our chances.

      Hopefully they will land in the UK or Canada the beer is better than in the US.

      Have a great weekend

      • #3127656

        Why beer?

        by just_chilin ·

        In reply to well

        We all know aliens love John (Jack) Daniels … which of course is from Tennessee

    • #3122632

      comment

      by tonythetiger ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      You’ve disallowed anything relavent I could have added 🙂

    • #3122628

      Intergalactic war

      by neilb@uk ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      Not very likely so I, for one, will not be preparing for it. Anyone who can cross space from another galaxy will surely be able to kick the crap out of us. But I can’t see why they would bother.

      Interstellar war? Statistically more likely as there’s not so far to travel. But why would anyone do it?

      Resources? Any race that develops the ability to travel across interstellar distances can get all of the resources that they want from comets, asteroids and small moons without the hassle of dragging stuff up out of our gravity.

      Energy. You can get all you want in space from sunlight. Or spin out a few miles of wire in orbit around a gas giant and the magnetic field will generate electricity.

      Living room? Face it. The planet of any industrialised species is probably going to be shagged. Anyway, bore out the centre of a metallic asteroid and fill the centre with water. Heat the asteroid to melting point with solar mirrors. Poof! A several-cubic-mile bubble. Spin it for gravity and live on the inside.

      Food? Protein and carbohydrates are only Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen and Nitrogen. Make food out of comets.

      Just because they’re nasty? Well – we’re f**ked! They sit in Mars orbit and drop rocks into the oceans. No fall-out, no opposition. What could we do?

      So, to prepare. Have another G&T. Relax. It ain’t gonna happen.

      • #3123087

        Words of comfort from NeilB

        by dmambo ·

        In reply to Intergalactic war

        Thank you for putting my mind at ease. For the 90 seconds when I first read Max’s post until I stumbled across your insightful answer, my soul was in turmoil. The point you make “The planet of any industrialised species is probably going to be shagged” are words to live by as they relieve all anxiety that we will be high on any invaders’ lists.

        Now my only worry is whether I’ll get fired for having another G&T while at my desk. 🙂

        • #3122975

          The entire premise for “Independence Day”

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Words of comfort from NeilB

          shot down like the alien spacecraft…

          (and the plot for the alien series ‘V’, ‘Battlefield Earth’ – now [b]there[/b] was a movie to gag to – and countless others)

        • #3122965

          Gag movie

          by dmambo ·

          In reply to The entire premise for “Independence Day”

          I once saw a dog called “Millenium”. The story line was that time travellers, having ruined their time by altering the past, tried to relieve suffering by going back to seconds before airline disasters, and replacing the living beings with some sort of carbon based cyborgs. It “starred” Kris Kristofferson and Cheryl “Charlie’s Angels” Ladd. Ms Ladd was a babe, but this flick defines Bad Cinema for me. I highly recommend it!

          Perhaps BFilmFan can patch the inaccuracies in my account, as I had been drinking pretty heavily when I saw it, but it remains a highly cherished, if somewhat blurry, memory.

      • #3127988

        Your totally correct

        by ebenezet ·

        In reply to Intergalactic war

        You are totally correct why would they bother to fight we us….AND by the way we have proof that they can travel trillions of times the speed of light…check this out http://www.ufonasa.com and look at the footage….It doesn’t do justice to the 3 hour video…”Evidence…The Case For NASA UFOs” but give you an idea of the size of the approx. 300 objects we saw going behind this “Tether” during the STS-75 Space Shuttle Mission Feb 28, 1996…these objects are approx. 3 miles across and pulsing in ultra violet energy…(Invisible for those that dont know to our vision) and since they have ZERO mass…they make an end run around Einstein’s relativity theory….they could go, using as non-mainstream scientists using their gravity wave propulsion from one end of our own Galaxy (the Milky Way) let alone the 200 billion others instaneously…..

        Check out the video….
        And as Carol Rosin, who spoke at the Disclosure Project Briefing at the National Press Club said on May 9th, 2001….Werner Von Braun…stated to her 20 yrs ago and many times after that…that we will be convinced that we need to have weapons in space….first because of the evil empire the Russians which were existing at that time (the cold war), then on 3rd world nations and we did…then on rogue nations and that is the currentl scenario and then on asteroids…I am sure you can see that happening…and if all of that fails to convince us to spend hundreds of trillions of dollars on space based weapons (by the way they are NOT needed-Star Wars is complete) they will pull out their trump card and blame having to spend trillions on an ET attack all over the world…and as he was dying on his death bed he stated over and over “and it will all be a lie…it will all be a lie….it will all be a lie….SO DON’T FALL FOR THIS ALIEN ATTACK BULLCRAP FOLKS its just a setup we could be wiped in a nano-second hundreds of thousands of years ago IF they had so desired but they PUT US HERE……..later

        • #3127861

          Wow

          by tracy_anne ·

          In reply to Your totally correct

          Who forgot to take their medication this week?

        • #3129664

          Trust no one

          by mjwx ·

          In reply to Your totally correct

          there’s nothing like walking in to the paranoid wing of the local asylum wearing a black suit and talking in to your collar.

          PS i have seen an alien, John Howard (the Australian Prime Minister) cant be a human.

      • #3129555

        War is inevitable! And we will start it!

        by mycroftholmes_4 ·

        In reply to Intergalactic war

        You forgot our nature.

        Distance – As soon as we get an economical way out of our gravity well we will explode into the solar system. As soon as we get warp drive, there goes the neighborhood.

        Resources – Your argument holds for typical items but exotics such as plants and animals from other world? We will harvest/collect them and bring them to earth and anywhere else we call home.

        Energy/tech – After solar system mobility we will sell our grandmother for a warp drive, from anyone.

        Living Room – The New World colonization should teach us, when we discover it we will claim it and take it no matter who else claims it and no natter how inhospitable it seems at first. We are a colonizing species. We will take anyt ball of dirt we can find and kill BEMs that happen to be there no matter how friendly they are. Ask the Native Americans.

        Food- Same as the resources above. If it is exotic and we can eat it we will take it. If we cannot eat it we will burn it and plant ouw own food.

        Just because WE arer nasty? Yes, they are f**ked! We will sit on their doorstep and drop rocks on them from orbit just because we can not mate with them. And if we can mate with them we will try to enslave them.

        Interstellar War is inevitable, because we have not grown up yet.

        • #3126276

          Less of the “we” and more of the US…!

          by hitoweruk ·

          In reply to War is inevitable! And we will start it!

          When you say “we” will start it, what I guess you are really saying is America will start it! I was going to say “…leave the UK out of this one” but our “president” Blair couldn’t resist siding up to Bush and dragging us into a war that we didn’t start, or want! Still, the US has a history of “sorting out” other peoples problems and minding other peoples business doesn’t. Indeed, any culture becomes a fair target if it is in disagreement with the US! I suspect that most aliens would fall into this category and so the simple answer to the question at the head of this thread would be “Yes” the US would inevitably start a war with someone…. or something!

        • #3126249

          That we is all of we

          by cagedmonkey ·

          In reply to Less of the “we” and more of the US…!

          I may be American but I am not one who shares in the zeal of the government to go out and be the police/military of every goverment we don’t like.

          Personally I think our government spends far too much time trying to “make the world a better place,” with our form of government”. It’s time to bring the troops home and work on our own problems not everyone elses.

        • #3130131

          Reply To: Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

          by hitoweruk ·

          In reply to That we is all of we

          That’s good to hear CagedMonkey. It’s interesting to see more and more independant-thinking Americans standing up and being counted. The war in Iraq was a big mistake and even the US and UK governments are hoping it will go away! Now Mr Bush, listen to the words of your own citizen, Cagedmonkey, and MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS before you try minding everyone elses; (even aliens from some distant solar system far, far away……)!

        • #3129851

          Really

          by razor1947 ·

          In reply to Less of the “we” and more of the US…!

          You seem to have a lot of negetive feedback.
          If it wan’t for the United States, a german flag would fly high in your country, And the Union Jack would be part of history.

          On top of all this, England has been doing the same for centuries. What a short memory our English friends have.

        • #3124823

          Not that old chestnut again

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Really

          We’ve done “how you won the war and saved us” before. The [b]Russians[/b] beat the Germans with help from The UK and the US and the commonwealth countries.

          btw. Don’t bother replying. This is a thread for funnies. Look at the bloody title!

        • #3124569

          Neilb

          by razor1947 ·

          In reply to Not that old chestnut again

          I’d still fight by your side, being an American, and England being our sister country. You sir are the gentleman that is upset. I’m sorry the americans were of no help to you, and yours.

          There is no country that is perfect, nor have perfect people in it, but do you really think if England was in trouble, and she asked the US for some help, that we wouldn’t be right by your side ??

          I do apoligize, if I have offended you. I really didn’t think that you harbered such feelings.
          Ray Wooden, Detroit MI USA

        • #3124506

          I’m not upset with the USA, just you

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Neilb

          Read your post – the one that I actually replied to:

          “If it wan’t for the United States, a german flag would fly high in your country, And the Union Jack would be part of history.”

          That devalues, at least in my eyes, the lives lost in the years between when the war started for my parents – 1939 – up to when the USA joined. One of those lives was my Uncle although I never met him as I wasn’t born then.

          And, as I said, the people who [b]really[/b] suffered most and contributed most in WWII were the Russians. We also did our bit and so did the US and I believe that the outcome would have been different without any one of us.

          In terms of population, the country that contributed most were the Canadians.

          In no way did I say that the US was of “no help to us”. I said, and I quote: “The Russians beat the Germans with help from The UK and the US and the commonwealth countries”. Read your history without the red, white and blue specatacles. Read my bloody posts [b]properly[/b].

          And as for your other comment: “On top of all this, England has been doing the same for centuries.” Agreed, but until this last stupid, short-sighted and illegal escapade in Iraq, we’d given it up for a hundred years or more.

          Hurt feelings? Not at all. I just like to let people know when they’re wrong!

          Neil

          btw, We’ve asked for the US’s help in combating Global Warming. Right by our side? I don’t think so!

        • #3124666

          Reply To: Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

          by hitoweruk ·

          In reply to Really

          Just like most American’s, you have selective memory syndrome. I would suggest that you read your history books. You “joined in” the 2nd WW because you just couldn’t resist it!! Anyway, from where we “Europeans” stand, a German flag is much more preferable than a US one (and, btw, much more popular). Can you not see how most of the world despises America, its policies and the it’s big-headed people? Is that really brought about by all you yanks “helping out” and rescuing the world from tyranny and helping rid the world of terrorism (something that we had to put up with for years until you suddenly became aware of it on 11-9); indeed, the US was even funding the terrorist IRA for years! I would suggest that you clean up your own crime-ridden, gun-shooting country before you try and put the rest of us to rights!

        • #3124602

          Well said

          by cagedmonkey ·

          In reply to Reply To: Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

          Seems like the only time the US gov’t gets involved is when US gov’t money/interest is on the line and can find a reason to “spread democracy”. The US gov’t just doesn’t get the fact that not every country wants/needs democracy.

        • #3124567

          God bless the Queen

          by razor1947 ·

          In reply to Reply To: Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

          Well thankyou sir for your history lesson. Your strong words are your opion. I have always like’ and appreciated the English people, there are none prouder. In the name of politics you choose to slander good hard working people.
          Have your fun mate, it’s just a shame, that you are blinded in such a way.
          Respectfully, Ray Wooden, Detroit MI, USA

        • #3130246

          What’s the deal….

          by jellimonsta ·

          In reply to Reply To: Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

          with all of these ‘toffey nosed’ remarks against American citizens?

          I was born and raised in the UK (West Mids) and came to live in the US 8 years ago. From my experience, it does not appear that a US citizen is any more ‘big headed’ than a citizen of any other country in the world.

          If they seem proud, I think they deserve that right. I would rather live in a tin shack in the US than a $400,000 house in the UK. At least here I know there would be ample opportunity to work towards that $400,000 house in a few years time.

          I know England is a depressed country and all, but slandering someone else does not usually work at making yourself feel better. IMHO.

        • #3130196

          Governments

          by dlauer9 ·

          In reply to What’s the deal….

          Just want to add my two cents:

          When people complain about Governments or countries they tend to complain about their own countries media shows them of the other country. I elect the better of the evil choices for goverment. After that I have no voice in what happens. If I have enough time and money I can protest what is happening. Sometimes this can help, but…..

          Oh yeah, this internet thingy was created by Al Gore, an American. (It was really made by his wife but, she wanted him to have something to brag about.)

          With love of the net 😉

        • #3124490

          Jelli: Yum gerrin a cobb on!

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to What’s the deal….

          Chill out. I think everyone is over-reacting. This little snippy subthread came from Razors rather inflammatory answer to HiTower’s first gung-ho anti-US post.

          Both are new peers and are way out of line.

          So are you, by the way, in that you reckon we’re depressed. That’s not the way I see it. Both countries have their good and bad points. I [b]have[/b] a $400,000 house. I’d rather be living here than in a tin shack in the US. Except for the bloody weather!

          A $400,000 house in the US? Well, I’ll think about that one. New Orleans, maybe?

          Neil 😀

        • #3124440

          Reply To: Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

          by hitoweruk ·

          In reply to What’s the deal….

          Slander??? I can see why you went to the US! They can’t speak proper English either. Surely, you mean libel? …and for something to be libelous, it has to be untrue, so that’s 2 things you got wrong! Hope you settle in well. Let me assure you that pride has absolutely nothing to do with it. If by England you mean the UK (forgotten the old place in only 8 years?), then I would suggest that you too have succumbed already to the insulated life that most US citizens live. Have you really got no idea of what is happening in your own country? Unemployemnt is practically the lowest in Europe and it’s certainly lower than the US (Your CIA’s own figures, not mine!) Our GDP per capita is higher that Germany, France, Italy, Monacco, Singapore, Taiwan and over 200 other countries (not the US of course). England is NOT a depressed country and you should be ashamed of yourself for not even knowing it!! At least Americans are proud of their country when abroad and they appear better informed about their own country, so it would seem. BTW, we don’t use dollars in the UK but at todays rates, your $400K house equates to ?227K and believe it or not, you can buy a very nice house made of bricks for that sum of money! Put some windows in your tin house and you might see what is going on around you! IMHO!

        • #3127389

          Neil

          by jellimonsta ·

          In reply to What’s the deal….

          If you were to spend 1 year in the US Mid West and then 1 year in the UK West Mids, you would see what I mean about a depressed country. Of course both countries have good and bad points, all countries do (at least the countries in the 3 continents I have lived on). 🙂

          If you are going to buy a $400,000 house in New Orleans, you might want to make it a decked out barge or something. By the way, as for weather we have a blizzard warning for tomorrow and may get about 8″ of snow to add on to the 10″ in the last week or so. 🙂

    • #3122613

      I agree with Mr Hellyer

      by tony hopkinson ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      There’s a serious danger of something bad happening when a guy this dumb is running a country. I’d suggest a room with deep wallpaper and a long sleeved jacket might be a possible solution.

    • #3122612

      Yes, and not winnable

      by absolutely ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      My local newspaper, the [i]Eugene Register-Guard[/i] states in the opening paragraph of a front-page article: “Shafts of ancient ice pulled from Antarctica’s frozen depths show that for at least 650,000 years three important heat-trapping greenhouse gases never reached recent atmospheric levels caused by human activities, scientists are reporting.”

      Obviously, the ET’s are using some unknown form of technology to compromise the intelligence of the world’s populace in order to ensure overuse of fossil fuels for energy, making the planet uninhabitable for ourselves, and perhaps perfectly suited to the visitors, who may need roads, runways, or may just find humans delicious.

      Sharks & Jonathan Swift consider us tasty enough, so why should we suppose that aliens wouldn’t also see us as a nutritious, helpless lunch?

      When I get the latest issue of [i]Science[/i] I may have serious comments for this thread, the Martian greenhouse effect thread, or a brand new one. Heads up, Max!

    • #3122601

      I wouldn’t evacuate..

      by maecuff ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      I’d offer my services to continue our combined species, thereby insuring my superior genes would continue to exist.

      • #3044081

        Combined Species ?

        by tony hopkinson ·

        In reply to I wouldn’t evacuate..

        Is that Save the Whale or are you referring to Male & Female ?
        LOL

      • #3129663

        Superior Genes

        by mjwx ·

        In reply to I wouldn’t evacuate..

        introducing the 2 ass_ed mae

        • #3126669

          Ha!

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to Superior Genes

          I don’t need to cross breed to do that. A box or two of hostess cupcakes should do the trick..

    • #3122590

      Imaginations running away with us!

      by swgoldwire2546 ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      Is it just me, or is our imaginations starting to run away with us?

      If an intergalactic war starts and we have to pity ourselves, so be it. Otherwise, why are we sooo hyped up about the space alien thing?

      Nothing more than mere runaway imaginations of mankind to scare us!

      -swg

      • #3122561

        Define “our”

        by maxwell edison ·

        In reply to Imaginations running away with us!

        .
        Personally speaking, I usually prefer to speak for myself. “Our” is plural. Perhaps you will consider speaking for yourself as well.

        If, by some chance, you said “our”, but meant “your”, I think we are taking ourselves too seriously. (Yes, sarcasm intended.)

        • #3122552

          Not only were the singular and plural forms used incorrectly…

          by absolutely ·

          In reply to Define “our”

          But inconsistently, even within a single clause!

          It’s a sure sign that swgoldwire2546 doesn’t remember how many distinct entities reside in his/her/their body.

        • #3122546

          Inconsistencies, huh?

          by swgoldwire2546 ·

          In reply to Not only were the singular and plural forms used incorrectly…

          Maybe you should read my earlier post. There is this BIG apology regarding my mental state and the personal fallout resulting from that

          http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=8&threadID=185088&start=0

          Obviously, you don’t know much about me, even before I had put up that post. So, what should you care about my sometimes bad grammar?

          Oh, HERE I GO AGAIN BITTING SOMEONE’S HEAD OFF HERE!!!!! If any of the TechRepublic crew wants to kick me out of here, it is fine by me. Another one assuming what he/she does not know, just like my mother, my previous employers AND the kids I grew up with in primary and secondary schools (elementary through high school)!!!!!!! I suppose YOU assumed that I have aliens inside my body or that I have split personalities! PHOOEY TO THAT AND THEN SOME!!!!!!! 🙁

          -swg

        • #3122545

          Hey dude

          by maxwell edison ·

          In reply to Inconsistencies, huh?

          .
          If you’re going to throw a pity party, don’t be surprised if nobody shows up.

        • #3122543

          It’s dudette, NOT dude!!!!

          by swgoldwire2546 ·

          In reply to Hey dude

          This is so not a pity party! I am just throwing one of these temper tantrums around because it is soooo frustrating dealing with people–I have autism and ADHD!

          Also, watch who you are writing these post to–you don’t even know if I am male or female!

          -swg

          The post-script: AND I AM A FEMALE AFRICAN-AMERICAN!!!

        • #3122537

          And I suffer from. . . . .

          by maxwell edison ·

          In reply to It’s dudette, NOT dude!!!!

          .
          …the dreaded IDGAS syndrom.

        • #3044083

          Maxwell:

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to It’s dudette, NOT dude!!!!

          Here I do agree with you one hundred percent.

          What is happening on this site? Used to be you could tear off someone’s head without any thought. Now it seems that there’s every chance a snippy post is going to result in jet-washing peers off the subway tracks.

        • #3043903

          Neil, I loved the analogy seeing how Brits are more aware of what it means.

          by sleepin’dawg ·

          In reply to It’s dudette, NOT dude!!!!

          😐

          [b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

        • #3122535

          you’re right

          by absolutely ·

          In reply to Inconsistencies, huh?

          I didn’t read your apology before teasing you about your bad grammar, but I’m not taking back a word of it now that I know that I see that you have apologized for your mental state, or rather used your “mental state” as an elaborate excuse for actions or words you believe to have been wrong. Whatever.

          “Obviously, you don’t know much about me, even before I had put up that post. So, what should you care about my sometimes bad grammar?” (swgoldwire2546)

          You’re right, I don’t know much about you, and the more I read, the less I care. But rest assured, you can’t just be kicked out for saying things that other members don’t like.

          “I suppose YOU assumed that I have aliens inside my body or that I have split personalities!”

          I only assumed the obvious: that you are careless, and have too little respect for yourself and your audience to communicate correctly. That’s why I made up the joke about split personalities that has obviously gotten under your skin and set up shop with the aliens.

          “PHOOEY TO THAT AND THEN SOME!!!!!!!”

          Kudos for not cursing. Much worse is tolerated around here, for better or worse. You won’t get kicked this way, and I’m glad: you’re amusing.

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        • #3122529

          My head has been bitten off!! AND OUT COME THE ALIENS!!!

          by swgoldwire2546 ·

          In reply to Anything I can say…

          I wish to say this to Mr. Maxwell Edison. You can relay this message to him:

          “EAT ROCKAWAY AVENUE SHRIMP AND BE GONE!!!!! YOU have done a disservice to me by bitting my head off only to have aliens come out of my body you assume and to bite YOUR head off!!! MY MENTAL CIRCUMSTANCES OF AUTISM AND ATTENTION DEFICIT HYPERACTIVITY DISORDER ARE REAL!!!! So, get over your stinking assumptions about me without knowledge–YOU, out of all people are just like those who grown up with me through the school years of my youth, teasing me, bullying me, berating me, wanting to beat me up, even my mother berating me! ALL BECAUSE I HAVE TWO UNDIAGNOSED BUT REAL MENTAL CIRCUMSTANCES THAT NOBODY WILL EVER BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!” 🙁

          -From the African-American woman behind the swgoldwire2546 pseudonym–Sherika Worrell Goldwire

        • #3044054

          swgoldwire2546 – My reply to your relayed message

          by maxwell edison ·

          In reply to Anything I can say…

          .
          ———- Copied Message ———-

          I wish to say this to Mr. Maxwell Edison. You can relay this message to him:

          “EAT ROCKAWAY AVENUE SHRIMP AND BE GONE!!!!! YOU have done a disservice to me by bitting my head off only to have aliens come out of my body you assume and to bite YOUR head off!!! MY MENTAL CIRCUMSTANCES OF AUTISM AND ATTENTION DEFICIT HYPERACTIVITY DISORDER ARE REAL!!!! So, get over your stinking assumptions about me without knowledge–YOU, out of all people are just like those who grown up with me through the school years of my youth, teasing me, bullying me, berating me, wanting to beat me up, even my mother berating me! ALL BECAUSE I HAVE TWO UNDIAGNOSED BUT REAL MENTAL CIRCUMSTANCES THAT NOBODY WILL EVER BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!”

          -From the African-American woman behind the swgoldwire2546 pseudonym–Sherika Worrell Goldwire

          ———- End of Copied Message ———-

          If you want to say something to me, why in the world would you want to “relay” it through someone else. Be a man, man! Just stand up and say it to me — right to my cyber-face. I can take it.

          Rockaway Avenue Shrimp? This surely is a metaphor for something bad and disgusting. But since I’m merely an uneducated and ignorant country bumpkin, not savvy to the ways of the northeastern elite class, such as yourself, I didn’t get it. Jambalaya shrimp, however. Now you’re talkin’. Pass me a bowl of that — and the bigger the better — yum yum.

          If I have done a disservice to you by suggesting that you speak for yourself by not speaking in the plural, presuming to lump others into your sentiments, then perhaps the next time I’ll address those voices (plural) in your head since that was who, obviously, posted the message.

          And do you really have “aliens coming out of your body”? Oh my gosh! The invasion has started already!

          And you shouted from the highest cyber-mountain, “MY MENTAL CIRCUMSTANCES OF AUTISM AND ATTENTION DEFICIT HYPERACTIVITY DISORDER ARE REAL”

          Well, therefore what? Do you want a friggin’ medal or something? Does that mean you expect to be treated with kid-gloves? Get real, dude, or dudette, or whatever kind of dude you prefer to be called. I’m the toughest “tough-love” kinda’ guy around here. Those kinds of excuses just won’t fly with me. And like I said, I suffer from the dreaded IDGAS syndrome, so I just can’t help myself.

          What assumptions have I made about you?

          Your conditions are “undiagnosed” but “real”? Isn’t that an oxymoron?

          But I am glad to see that you had a normal childhood.

          Where in the heck is Africa-America? I know where Africa is; I know where America is (North, South and Central); but for the life of me I just can’t find Africa-America on the map. I must have been on vacation when that country was created.

        • #3122532

          No excuses whatsoever!!!!

          by swgoldwire2546 ·

          In reply to you’re right

          I am NOT using my mental circumstances as an excuse NOR am I making these stories up, NOR have I apologised for my mental circumstances!!! My mental circumstances are real!!!

          So much for bad assumptions. . .

          -swg

        • #3122523

          It’s all in your head.

          by absolutely ·

          In reply to No excuses whatsoever!!!!

          http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=8&threadID=185118&messageID=1891609

          “My mental circumstances are real!!!”

          Do your “mental circumstances” ever tell you to do things that you know are wrong?

        • #3123261

          What is IDGAS syndrome?

          by garret` ·

          In reply to Inconsistencies, huh?

          I searched google but got a link to…this discussion!

          p.s. Take it easy swg. Breathe and chillax a bit, ya know?

        • #3123257

          I MADE THE TOP OF GOOGLE!

          by maxwell edison ·

          In reply to What is IDGAS syndrome?

        • #3123215

          but you haven’t answered my question

          by garret` ·

          In reply to I MADE THE TOP OF GOOGLE!

          🙂

        • #3123212

          Search for KOAGB

          by garret` ·

          In reply to I MADE THE TOP OF GOOGLE!

          Same result. Nice one! 🙂

        • #3127737

          Congrats, Max

          by ldyosng ·

          In reply to I MADE THE TOP OF GOOGLE!

          Making it to the top of Google is impressive!

        • #3127732

          Congrats, Max

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to I MADE THE TOP OF GOOGLE!

          But, really, IDGAS

        • #3124736
        • #3127665

          I don’t know what IDGAS syndrome is…

          by absolutely ·

          In reply to What is IDGAS syndrome?

          I don’t know, and IDGAS.

          Does that help, G?

        • #3128723

          ah *click*

          by garret` ·

          In reply to I don’t know what IDGAS syndrome is…

          Yeap I get it now, A.

        • #3128658

          Garret – I intentionally ignored your question because. . . . .

          by maxwell edison ·

          In reply to I don’t know what IDGAS syndrome is…

          .
          …..IDGAS

          Bad-a-boom!

        • #3128874

          IDGAS

          by montgomery gator ·

          In reply to I don’t know what IDGAS syndrome is…

          That describes how many of us feel about just_chillin’s rants and drivel. ]:)

        • #3129198

          IDGAS about your IDGASing

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to I don’t know what IDGAS syndrome is…

          😀

          Tom, you called that one right on target. Chillin has shown him/herself to be a bit of a nut that is unable to express a coherent idea.

          I have given up replying to his/her posts.

          “what we got here, FAILURE to comunitcate…”

        • #3126978

          Something strange about just_chilin

          by absolutely ·

          In reply to I don’t know what IDGAS syndrome is…

          After several tries in TR’s People search, I noticed that there is only one l in “just_chilin”. I say when you misspell your own name — even an assumed nickname — you need to “chill” a little less.

        • #3122547

          I have been speaking for myself and ONLY for myself!

          by swgoldwire2546 ·

          In reply to Define “our”

          However, when I say “our” in this discussion, I meant the whole world of mankind in general, including ME and my runaway imaginations there. NOT that I represent ANYONE, however. I have always represented myself, but the discussion is not always about me.

          -swg

        • #3123044

          Hey this was about Aliens

          by stargazerr ·

          In reply to I have been speaking for myself and ONLY for myself!

          Lets leave us Humans out of it …

          I cant deny … it did sound for a second, like you guys are going to start a third world war .. Maybe we wont need an intergalactic war after all..

        • #3123043

          Hey this was about Aliens

          by stargazerr ·

          In reply to I have been speaking for myself and ONLY for myself!

          Lets leave us Humans out of it …

          I cant deny … it did sound for a second, like you guys are going to start a third world war .. Maybe we wont need an intergalactic war after all..

          ]:)

        • #3127735

          Yo, Goldie

          by ldyosng ·

          In reply to I have been speaking for myself and ONLY for myself!

          “the discussion is not always about me.”

          So please stop yelling.

    • #3122565

      Insurrgent Defense

      by bfilmfan ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      We use the same tactics as insurrgents everywhere.

      We hit them where they are not looking.

      We strap bombs to ourselves and blow up their troops.

      We keep hitting them till their news media has nothing but stories about how the evil humans are killing their sons and daughters and they get tired and go home.

      Sad how effective that line of reasoning appears to be isn’t it?

      • #3122559

        It seems to me that, in your analogy, . . . . .

        by maxwell edison ·

        In reply to Insurrgent Defense

        .
        ….you’re putting the suicidal horse before the victimized cart.

        • #3044065

          Solution

          by bfilmfan ·

          In reply to It seems to me that, in your analogy, . . . . .

          I didn’t recall you requiring a bloodless solution.

          Merely an effective defense.

        • #3044059

          I suppose I was reading too much into your “solution”

          by maxwell edison ·

          In reply to Solution

          .
          I would consider our fictitious “space invaders” the bad guys; and I suppose I made an incorrect jump to the analogy that those who are the targets of such tactics in the real world are also the “bad guys”, an assertion I would vehemently oppose.

          I shouldn’t assume such things to the point of reading your mind.

          But as to your “solution”, I wonder if any of us (U.S.) would actually resort to such tactics?

        • #3043908

          Suicide Bombers

          by bfilmfan ·

          In reply to I suppose I was reading too much into your “solution”

          I was actually thinking of a book I read by Silverberg where the Earth was invaded and the humans used a whole host of strategies to encourage them to depart to other points in space.

          It was about one family and their lives over hte generations of the occupation.

        • #3123405

          Repelling Aliens

          by montgomery gator ·

          In reply to Suicide Bombers

          We could always fart in their general direction, wave our privates in their aunties’ faces, and blow our noses at them!! Followed by an attack consisting of hurling various farm animals at the aliens. 🙂

        • #3127734

          CAT-

          by ldyosng ·

          In reply to Repelling Aliens

          A-PULT!!

    • #3044057

      Love the geekspeak

      by andy ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      Maybe we could build a safehaven from all the letters that werent used in the original post to so we would have somewhere warm to kiss our asses goodbye, or to keep it more “technical” in nature KOAGB

      • #3044053

        Like this

        by maxwell edison ·

        In reply to Love the geekspeak

        .
        IT UT working OT against the AT of ET will KOAGB.

        Yes, I like it. And yes, we would.

    • #3044047

      Well Max you’ve certainly done it this time. Paul Hellyer??? I’d laugh if..

      by sleepin’dawg ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      I weren’t wanting to throw up so much. Paul Hellyer was Canada’s Defense Minister through th mid sixties to early seventies. He was a classic example of the Peter Principle, a man who managed to rise to the level of his incompetence. The damage he did to Canada’s armed forces, is still being felt to this very day and we are still living with the results, which have been pretty much disasterous. He was one of the main reasons why I and many others resigned our commisions in disgust, so you can imagine just how seriously I would take any utterence of his. Here’s a little something that might give you pause, he made a run at becoming Canada’s Prime Minister and when he failed at that, he endeavoured to start his own political party. The man was/is a legend in his own mind. When he was near the levers of power, such as they are in Canada, people perceived him as “the cream of the crop” to imply that cream just naturally rises to the top. I and others weren’t too popular for reminding people that sh|t also floats. I’ll say this much for the pr1ck; as a political entity he packaged very neatly and impressively for television and had a knack for making attention getting sound bites. It was too bad there was little substance to what he was saying but he did look impressive while saying it. My gut reaction: I hope the SOB rots in hell!!!! Intergalactic warfare??? Not bloody likely in the lifetimes of any alive today or for eons to come for that matter. Note: I’m not saying it’s impossible but it’s not very plausible. Paul Hellyer couldn’t be trusted to provide instructions for where the nearest toilet is and I doubt he could organize a decent drunk if he were standing in the middle of a brewery. Well would you look at that!!! There are not too many things that can so thoroughly piss the [b]Dawg[/b] off but you managed to find one. Paul Hellyer; eeyuck, ptui!!!
      (gag reflex followed by spitting sounds)

      [b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

    • #3044044

      For the record – If anyone thinks/thought this is/was a serious message….

      by maxwell edison ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      • #3044040

        But how could we know that?

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to For the record – If anyone thinks/thought this is/was a serious message….

        Five million Americans have claimed to have been abducted by aliens in the last fifty years.

        You could be one of them. Alien implants are controlling you and forcing you to ridicule the finest technical minds in the Western World here on TR. You are crushing our self-esteem so that we key players will be ineffectual in the coming struggle for our species’ very existence.

        Fight the conditioning, Max.

        Tell us the [b]truth[/b].

        • #3044037

          ROTFLMAO ……….KOAGB

          by sleepin’dawg ·

          In reply to But how could we know that?

          IT UT working OT against the AT of ET will KOAGB :^O By all means. :^O

          [b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

        • #3044035

          I SUFFER FROM IDGAS SYNDROME, I tell you

          by maxwell edison ·

          In reply to But how could we know that?

          .
          This is real, but undiagnosed. No one else has it to this severity. In fact, no one else has even had it — only me. It’s nothing the doctors have even seen before. No one understands it. It has its origins in an organism unknown anywhere on Earth, except flowing through my blood stream.

          I have nightmares about when I was first inflicted. I’m floating ….. unfamiliar surroundings ….. lights flashing ….. strange faces ….. ouch ….. don’t do that ….. what the ….. oh, no ….. not again ….. zooming through a light ….. what’s that ….. how’d I get here ….. no ….. no, no, no ……

          But not to worry. I’m taking medication for it. The only know side-effect is uncontrollable silliness (certainly better than uncontrollable di…..)

        • #3123103

          Syndrome?

          by cactus pete ·

          In reply to I SUFFER FROM IDGAS SYNDROME, I tell you

          I didn’t think syndromes were contagious…

        • #3122944

          IDGAS

          by maxwell edison ·

          In reply to Syndrome?

          .

        • #3127659

          IDGAS???

          by sleepin’dawg ·

          In reply to IDGAS

          Iota-Delta-Gamma-Alpha-Sigma ??? Good one Max.

          [b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

        • #3127611

          Side affect?

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to I SUFFER FROM IDGAS SYNDROME, I tell you

          from when you got your anal probe?

          :p

          Get pink eye from Scott Baio?

        • #3127609

          Wrong emoticon, JD

          by dmambo ·

          In reply to Side affect?

          Please never again use the tongue-sticking-out emoticon when discussing anal probes.

        • #3127604

          You sure have come a long way baby!

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to Wrong emoticon, JD

          I am so PROUD of you!

          All that hard work GG and I have been putting into you has finally paid off!

          Six months ago, you would not have been the one to make that kind of a connection! 😀

          That gets you an ATTABOY!
          [i]
          (and yes, you are correct. No more tongue/anal combinations!)

        • #3127599

          Level 5 accreditation!

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to Wrong emoticon, JD

          well done that man! You finally reached the same level of sewer as the rest of us plebs!

          Glad you finally joined us!

          (But what took you so long?!)

          😡
          GG

        • #3127597

          I would say

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to Level 5 accreditation!

          WE DONE GOOD! :^O

        • #3127557

          You two should be ashamed

          by dmambo ·

          In reply to Level 5 accreditation!

          You ALMOST succeeded in your attempt to rid me of my innocence. Foregt it!! I’m still pure as the driven snow.

          Although it does seem that your types do have a lot of fun……hmmmmm……maybe I should….hmmmmm…

        • #3127542

          Yeah Mambo but look how you drifted.

          by sleepin’dawg ·

          In reply to Level 5 accreditation!

          :^O

          [b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

        • #3128574

          Oh, now

          by ldyosng ·

          In reply to Wrong emoticon, JD

          That’s just wrong!

        • #3128812

          By doing further research

          by aldanatech ·

          In reply to But how could we know that?

          that most of those claims are either fabricated or distorted? At first it would seem that they just wanted to know more about us, but because of our reaction to those kinds of experiences they have seem to drastically reduced those practices. A lot of those who claim that they were abducted say that the experience were a bit traumatizing, specially for those who were highly skeptical of this phenomena, but that at the same time it was highly revealing and enriching. Several of them have also revealed that there have been those who attempted to either silence them or ridicule them. My suggestion is that we do further research about who those extraterrestrials are and what they’re up to. Does that mean that we go UFO hunting? Not necessarily. We can find out more than we thought we would here on Earth if we just know where to look for.

        • #3129124

          According to Stargate Command, what is happening..

          by montgomery gator ·

          In reply to By doing further research

          Alien abductions, lost time episodes, (and probably the anal probes) were conducted by one of the Asgard appropriately named Loki. He was kicked out of the Asgard scientific community for his unorthodox research methods. The lost time was explained by the abductees replaced with exact clones with the same memory, then the original abductee returned and the clone removed from Earth by Loki.

          Loki had replaced Col. O’Neill with a genetic clone with O’Neill’s memories. Unfortunately, something went wrong and his clone was a teenager instead of the 50 year old (or however old he is) Col. O’Neill. That is how Stargate Command discoverd what Loki was up to, and the Asgard Commander Thor helped them find and capture Loki.

          These Asgard are the same aliens from another galaxy that helped Stargate Command and the rebel Jaffa defeat the Goauld and gave Stargate Command the technology for intergalactic travel.

        • #3129662

          SG reference

          by mjwx ·

          In reply to According to Stargate Command, what is happening..

          we’ll have to bring Richard Dean Anderson out of retirement and give that man a pocket knife!

          BTW is there a dictionary of various geek terms so i can stop explaining these terms to people and point at the book.

        • #3126705

          Wikipedia has is covered

          by montgomery gator ·

          In reply to SG reference

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_sg-1

          Also, RDA does not even need a pocket knife. He could “McGuyver” anything with just a paper clip and a piece of lint. 🙂

      • #3044039

        I know, I know but the sight or sound of that name just pisses me off.

        by sleepin’dawg ·

        In reply to For the record – If anyone thinks/thought this is/was a serious message….

        The existence of the Hellyers of this world blows to hell all the arguments of the right to lifers. The idea was idiotic enough but the fact this clown is still around and that anyone would lend credibility to him by actually listening to him never mind recording his comments, defys belief. That a$$hole is a waste of resources. Mind you he probably appeals to someone suffering from [b]real[/b] undiagnosed autism and ADHD. :^O

        [b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

        P.S. Loved the link but you’ll have to explain how you find the time to search that sort of thing out. I’m still ROTFLMAO

        • #3044033

          Hey Dawg – Maybe Hellyers. . . . .

          by maxwell edison ·

          In reply to I know, I know but the sight or sound of that name just pisses me off.

          .
          ….is really one of “them”. (If you know what I mean?)

        • #3044032

          Dawg – I knew. . . .

          by maxwell edison ·

          In reply to I know, I know but the sight or sound of that name just pisses me off.

          .
          ….you’d love it.

        • #3044028

          You have to PM me some of those sources.

          by sleepin’dawg ·

          In reply to Dawg – I knew. . . .

          That was/is one of your better ones. I’m still laughing. Hope you don’t mind if I use it myself from time to time. That was tooooo much!!! :^O

          [b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

        • #3044027

          I am so sorry Dawg. . .

          by swgoldwire2546 ·

          In reply to I know, I know but the sight or sound of that name just pisses me off.

          You will have to excuse me for a moment there.

          I just cannot help it throwing a temper tantrum and all–the comments from Absolutely saying the autism and ADHD is “all in my head”,and Maxwell Edison saying that I am making pitiful excuses and all other comments posted in TR just makes me want to scream Second Avenue Deli, throw things around, stomp around, do damage to my apartment walls and the like and just sit there helplessly, crying my eyes out. Call me psyco or whatnot, I really don’t care. I just have trouble dealing with people, who don’t know and don’t seem to give a happy, it is frustrating 🙁

          -swg

          The post-script:

          To Maxwell Edison and Absolutely: YOU ARE JUST LIKE MOTHER ESSIE, AS WELL AS THEM OTHER KIDS I GREW UP WITH, SAYING I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM. MY PROBLEM IS THAT I HAVE REAL UNDIAGNOSED AUTISM AND ATTENTION DEFICIT HYPERACTIVITY DISORDER AND PEOPLE WHO DON’T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND ENOUGH TO CARE!!!!!!! AFRICAN-AMERICAN IS JUST A NATIONALITY DESCRIBING BLACK FOLK OF AFRICAN DESCENT BORN IN AMERICA!! I AM NO DIFFERENT FROM THE NEXT HOMELESS PAUPER OUT IN THE STREETS OF NEW YORK CITY!!!! I CANNOT REPSOND TO YOUR OFFENCIVE POSTS DIRECTLY BECAUSE MY POSTED THREAD COUNT HAD REACHED ITS BLOOMING MAXIMUM!!!

          JUST BE GONE AND DON’T RESPOND TO MY POSTS EVER AGAIN!!!!!!

          YYYYEEEEAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!{!@#$%^&*:])!!!!!!!!!

        • #3044023

          Don’t be sorry. This is where you can let it all out but remember……….

          by sleepin’dawg ·

          In reply to I am so sorry Dawg. . .

          We are not he most sensitive bunch so you will probably get a rough ride from time to time, especially from an insensitive type such as me. As I’ve said previously never take [b]anything[/b] here , seriously or personally. Life can be a b1tch and it can either make you laugh or make you cry. Given a choice, laughter is the better one. People have problems and issues. You are not alone or unique in that, so stop taking everything so seriously. It doesn’t make you or anyone else happy, so change gears and start having some fun. Learn to laugh at yourself a bit, you’ll find life can be a lot more fun than what you’ve been experiencing so far. We’re here for a good time not a long time; be sure to smell the roses.

          [b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

        • #3043991

          Dawg makes excellent suggestions.

          by absolutely ·

          In reply to I am so sorry Dawg. . .

          I do not.

          However, I do occasionally give compliments, as well as insults. For example, I honestly like the new design next to your name. Did you design that yourself?

        • #3043990

          re: “POSTED THREAD COUNT HAD REACHED ITS BLOOMING MAXIMUM!!!”

          by absolutely ·

          In reply to I am so sorry Dawg. . .

          It’s traditional to put replies inline with the last message that will allow a reply, as I’m doing with this message. Visually, it’s very clear that all messages along a single vertical line are related to or derived from the one above it.

          “JUST BE GONE AND DON’T RESPOND TO MY POSTS EVER AGAIN!!!!!!”

          I won’t stop responding, but if you tell me what you dislike about my responses, I may decide to be more considerate. Conversely, if you continue using the imperative form as if you have authority to command me, it is much more likely that I will continue to traumatize you with my vicious words.

        • #3043983

          So assuming

          by puppybreath ·

          In reply to I am so sorry Dawg. . .

          That we all understand and accept the fact that you have autism and ADHD, what now? You seem to want something else other than acceptance of your conditions. What would that be?

          Many of us have a condition that makes us different from somebody else. But we don’t wear it on our sleeves. From the number of times you’ve repeated the fact that you have disorders, you seem to want to use them as a crutch or an excuse for your behavior. Just accept the fact that you’re unique just like everyone else and get on with your life.

          I think Jimmy Buffet said it best: “Some of it’s magic and some of it’s tragic, but I’ve had a good life all the way.”

        • #3122873

          Get your kinks out…

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to I am so sorry Dawg. . .

          Why do you care what other people post? Don’t let it bother you so much, you’ll have a freaking stroke.

          I have a son with ADD, dyslexia and Tourette’s Syndrome. I KNOW these are real issues and not excuses. He knows it better than I do. However, everyone has a right to their opinions. Even when they are wrong.

        • #3122157

          If I may be so bold…..

          by jamesrl ·

          In reply to Get your kinks out…

          I have a mild physical disfigurement. I will never be a concert pianist.
          My wife has MS. She will never run a marathon. She may not be able to walk much longer.
          My son has ADD. He will not get straight As despite being an extremely intelligent kid (absent minded professor).

          All of us can dwell on what our deficiencies. But we don’t have to let those things define our lives. My son is on student’s council and in drama club and having a blast. My wife is active in her church. I use my voice for singing instead of my fingers for piano.

          I don’t think that your son’s challenges and goldwires’ challenges are insignificant. But I am sure you would kick your son’s butt if he started to use them as a crutch or an excuse to withdraw from life.

          What I have seen in some of goldwire’s posts (not all) are things that may indicate a victim mentality. Now I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, and I truly believe there were some instances where she was making an attempt at black humor that not everyone appreciated as such. But some of the posts could be intepreted as avoiding personal responsibility for actions and posts and blaming it on her challenges. To her credit she has apologised for some things.

          So while I am not a hard ass on these things, I think I understand Max’s point of view. I don’t see it as black and white.

          And I do think all of us should read and understand your advice, on caring about what other people post – we are all individuals, and what we post is well, what we post and not in any way definitive.

          James

        • #3122155

          Yes..

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to If I may be so bold…..

          I agree. Everyone has their issues, I for one, will never be a Victoria’s Secret underwear model. I try not to let that affect the quality of my life.

          My son has never used his issues as an excuse, but they have hindered him. Fortunately, he is extremely intelligent. I hope for his sake, he’ll figure that out and move forward, but it is up to him.

          Sorry about the whole concer pianist thing, you probably wouldn’t have much luck as a hand model either? 🙂

        • #3121859

          Rainbow warrior?

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to If I may be so bold…..

          [i]”I don’t see it as black and white.”[/i]

          Serious question. Do you EVER see something as either Right or Wrong, or is it all a “well it depends”?

          Through many long discussions with my liberal Aunt in NY that I love dearly, (that makes OZ look like a moderate,) I have tried over and over to understand the “many shades of gray” mentality and more than not fail everytime.

        • #3123447

          I don’t get the Rainbow Warrior reference

          by jamesrl ·

          In reply to Rainbow warrior?

          But yes, I don’t subscribe to the everything is grey jedi perspective. But I don’t have a formulaic view either. I try not to be quick to judge.

          Murder is wrong. You and I may define the fringes of what is murder (self defense from abuse) a little differently but at the core, we agree more than we disagree.

          Stealing is wrong. Max and I disagree about whether taxes are theft, but we probably agree more than we disagree.

          I think where we differ is that I don’t believe that I have the right to impose my moral and ethical framework onto others as an “absolute”. I believe in the principles of the Christian church, but I think its wrong to have a state religion, or even to have the state favour one religion over another. I don’t favour prayer in public schools.

          Where I don’t see situations like Goldwires as black and white, the reason is because of context. If I make a snap judgment based on the few facts shared, I am not doing anyone a favour. And there may be two such individuals with many similarities, who on the face of it may be the same, but when you delve deeper, are very different in circumstance.

          I’ve seen many politicians mired in analysis paralysis and others who make too quick a decision without examing the consequences. Both are wrong(though hindsight makes it easy to be omniscient).

          It goes back to that post about lazy thinking. If “Bush is bad” all the time is wrong, then so is “all democrats are bad”. Arch capitalist Conrad Black (who normally I disagree with) wrote a biography about FDR and found a lot to admire about his courage and attitude. That doesn’t mean that Conrad agrees with his policies on the New Deal.

          The reason I like to read biographies is to be able to understand context. Many people have a simplistic view that Lincoln freed the slaves and therefore held the high moral ground. Lincoln didn’t start out to free the slaves and was actually not campaigning to do so, though many of his supporters would want it so. He only made the emancipation proclamation out of desparation, when it appeared that this would cause the south a lot of pain, and all hope of a peaceful negotiated settlement were truly gone. Does this make Lincoln a bad man? Do you think that can be answered in an absolute black and white, yes or no manner? In putting aside freedom of the slaves to try and end the war through negotiation – does that make him evil?

          Sometimes there are easy answers, sometimes not. the trick is in knowing which is the case, and sometimes that ability is only gained through age and experience.

          James

        • #3123416

          The reference

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to Rainbow warrior?

          Rainbow Warrior is what they refer to Jeff Gordon as because of the colorful Dupont car he drives. (Nascar)

          Figured it was an apt segway to talk of if the world is black and white or not.

          Was not meant as a jab or insult, although many nascar fans would concider them there fight’en words! (lol)

          As for the Lincoln bit. It is funny how history gets “modified” by the winners. There are actually people that believe we FOUGHT the civil war for the purose of freeing the slaves, instead of over terrifs. Just sounds much more NOBLE to say we fought for freedom than for money.

          Was he a good man? Now there are even groups out there trying to claim he was gay (I have NO IDEA what that matters one way or the other). Push comes to shove, I will take a bad man doing good things than a good man doing bad things (Jimmy Carter, the WORST president we ever had).

        • #3123363

          Nascar and Lincoln

          by jamesrl ·

          In reply to Rainbow warrior?

          With regards to Lincoln, its entirely possible to do the right things for the wrong reasons. He may have sympathized with freeing the slaves, but was focussed on the war.

          I do think that the US Civil war was about states rights, and one of those rights was the right to impose slavery. If there had been no new states added to the union and the balance had remained, the status quo would have remained and things might have worked out differently. But the south saw the writing on the wall and noted that most new states would not be slave states. Bloody Kansas was a precusor to all out war. So the south insisted on some guarentees ont he status quo that the federal government could not provide.

          So slavery was a factor, just not the root, nor the sole factor.

          James

        • #3123473

          maecuff & swgoldwire: ADD diagnosis + high IQ

          by absolutely ·

          In reply to Get your kinks out…

          A Clemson University researcher has made some interesting discoveries about diagnoses of ADD in children that are also unusually bright, which I see (between this and your next post) describes your son. The diagnosis may be inaccurate, in which case, the researcher below has information that may help.

          “The only way ADD can be definitively diagnosed is when an MRI or EEG is taken under mental stress.

          “The tests are very expensive, and although few people have done it outside a research setting, estimates have been made that perhaps 0.5 percent of the population suffers from reall ADD.”

          The article goes on to speculate that bright children frequently exhibit behavior similar to ADD, but for the reason that they are bored by curriculum designed for average minds, not because of a disorder in their brains that decreases cerebral blood flow when it should increase.

          I suspect meacuff & swgoldwire may both be interested in the full story.
          Dr. Lois Breur Krause, Clemson University
          [i]How We Learn and Why We Don’t[/i]
          ISBN 0-759-32734

        • #3123411

          the CRIME of ADD

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to maecuff & swgoldwire: ADD diagnosis + high IQ

          is many people that get on the meds are because TEACHERS want the kids medicated so they can be handled easier.

          This research is the FIRST REAL test I have EVER heard of for diagnosing ADD. I have just added this to my “to buy” list.

          If you follow the checklist that is normally used to force kids to be medicated, I would bet the majority of us would have been put in that catagory because it is so arbatrary. I know I would have from looking it over. Glad teachers didn’t have the ability to diagnose medical conditions back when I was in school.

        • #3123403

          I couldn’t agree more..

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to the CRIME of ADD

          Had I allowed my son to take ridalin, his Tourette’s Syndrome symptoms would have been exacerbated. In it’s place, his doctor tried a blood pressure medication, which at age 8, caused his blood pressure to drop at an alarming rate. At that point, I decided that I would never EVER allow him to be medicated for ADD again. Structure, stability and a cool head work wonders. It’s not easy, but I decided that I would rather have my kid be the person he is, than drugged to mimic the other kids.

          My younger son is beginning to show similar ADD like symptoms (poor organization skills, inability to stay on task, etc.) However, I don’t have nearly the behaivor problems I had with my older son. We’ll just continue helping him organize himself (which is a chore, because his father and I are deficient in organizational skills). And as smart as my older son is, the younger one absolutely blows us away. His vocabulary is incredible. He talks ALL the time. I told him the other day that if he didn’t stop talking so much, he would use up all of his words. He asked what I meant. I told him that every one had a finite number of words they could use in a lifetime and that if he wasn’t careful, he’d use all of his up. He looked at me with complete disgust and said, “mom, that is preposterous.”

          What 7 year old uses that word? I don’t even use that word.

        • #3123402

          Thank you!

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to maecuff & swgoldwire: ADD diagnosis + high IQ

          For this information. I will definitely check it out!

        • #3127770

          Don’t thank me yet.

          by absolutely ·

          In reply to Thank you!

          But I hope you’ll tell me about it if it helps. Intelligence is a terrible thing to misdiagnose.

        • #3123250

          I am familiar with all three and they are very real and not excuses.

          by sleepin’dawg ·

          In reply to Get your kinks out…

          About a month ago while going through some old papers of my mother’s I came across a bundle which turned out to be all my old report cards from kindergarten up to and including my final year in high school. The thing that interested me most was each and every report card had a similar comment, to the effect, that I could do better if only I would apply myself. One report card was missing; the one for fourth grade. That was because I was never in the fourth grade. I was made to skip that year and went from third to fifth. Apparently that made little difference. Aside from my lack of application, it seems I was also a discipline problem especially during my high school years. There was no mention of ADD or ADHD but the conclusion seems to have been that I was a royal pain in the a$$ to most of my teachers. My recollection of my school years is that most of the time, I was totally bored. In those days classes numbered between 25-32 kids and yet I was never lower than fifth in my class. I remember being scolded by my parents regarding those comments and I remember my thoughts at the time were, “Hey I’m passing! What more do you want?” When I graduated from high school I had, had enough of school and entered the labour force until I was old enough to enter the army and qualify for a commission. I soon became aware that if I was to make a career in the military a degree would be necessary but a degree in what? It took me a few years to settle on engineering and again I coasted through always in the top third of my classes. I suppose today someone would try to convince my parents that I had ADD and get me drugged to the eyeballs but really what it boiled down to was that with a few exceptions my whole education was largely boring.

          Fortunately I was not dyslexic but my daughter exhibited a mild form of it. It wasn’t till she was in grade five that anyone woke up to the fact that she couldn’t read properly. Her mother sent her for all kinds of testing and diagnosis but in my work which involves optics and the physics of light I remembered an article in which a study of some dyslexic children had determined that the majority all had some form of colour blindness. Apparently they all were deficient in the red-green part of the spectrum. The suggested treatment was to have the children read through a yellow or magenta filter and the dyslexic symptoms might disappear. Having large amounts of filter material at hand I decided to experiment on my daughter and laid large 10″X12″ sheets of yellow acetate across her pages. The results were dynamic. She no longer had headaches from reading and the dyslexic symptoms were largely eliminated. A visit to an opthalmologist specializing in neurological disorders confirmed my findings and she was prescribed special glasses with a yellow tint which she wears to this day although now she wears tinted contact lenses. Note; this may not be for everyone, my daughters dyslexia was only a mild case.

          Tourette’s Syndrome is sad because not enough people are aware of it and do not understand its outward manifestations. The problem isn’t with your son its with the ignorance of the people he encounters. He must be quite a kid to be able to handle it so maturely although there must be times when he grows frustrated by the stupidity and cruelty that too many exhibit towards him. My hat is off to him and you for being able to deal with it. It can’t be easy.

          [b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

        • #3127662

          Actually

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to I am familiar with all three and they are very real and not excuses.

          His Tourette’s is very mild. Just a facial tic. It was pronounced when he was very young (rapid blinking and nose twitching). Now, he blinks when he’s tired or under extreme stress, so it isn’t so bad.

          Fortunately, he’s always been a self assured person. He’s always had friends (and now girlfriends, which freaks his mother out), so socially, he hasn’t had TOO many problems. He was definitely a discipline problem in school and he has never been the easiest person to be around. On the other hand, he is very witty (although his wit runs to the sarcastic side) and very funny.

          I’m just hoping with age and maturity, he becomes less angry and learns that patience is a good thing..

        • #3127657

          Patience and love babe, patience and love!!!

          by sleepin’dawg ·

          In reply to Actually

          It will work out for him one way or the other but in the meantime he is licky to have you for his Mom. I sincerely mean that.

          [b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

        • #3127649

          DAWG! Freudian slip, mate!

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Actually

          “licky”

          :p

        • #3127642

          I hope so..

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to Actually

          In retrospect, I could have been more patient and let more of the little things go. I can’t change that now, I can, however, feel guilty about it for the rest of my life. It’s not a great plan, but I seem to be sticking to it.

          And for the record, I AM licky..

        • #3127617

          The little things

          by dmambo ·

          In reply to Actually

          Mae, that’s an arguement my wife and I constantly have. Last week, my wife had it out with my 13-year-old because she thinks it’s cool to wear unmatched socks. We can be a family of hollerers, but to me this one was ridiculous. Is it possible to convince a mother that certain things that they feel reflect on her children just do not matter?

          I battled my mother for 12+ years about the length of my hair, among other things, so I feel that these things should slide. I’ve often felt that one should be careful in choosing the battles. I worry that letting the little arguements grow will cuase a kid to detatch and stop communicating, although I have not seen this with my daughter and my wife. In the grand picture of things, they communicate wonderfully.

        • #3127603

          Mambo

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to Actually

          I’m pretty good at letting the kids express themselves. I wouldn’t let my 7 year old get his ear pierced, but when he’s 10? Maybe. My older son and I fought constantly about homework and chores. In the end, he didn’t do his homework and rarely helped around the house. It did not matter what I did to punish him, I could strip his possessions away until all he had was a bare mattress and dorky clothes and he would still dig his heels in (not that I ever went quite that far). The results of our disagreements were always anger and hurt feelings and really didn’t accomplish anything. It took a while for me to figure out that the calmer I stayed, the easier it was for him to stay calm.

        • #3127729

          Still not OK

          by ldyosng ·

          In reply to I am so sorry Dawg. . .

          To yell so much

    • #3043993

      Has anyone considered….

      by attackcomputerwhiz ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      (Cue “Twilight Zone” theme)

      …that they already won the war and we are just an experimental Petri dish for their amusement?

      BWAHAHAHAHA!

      Sorry, the “suits” required I come in on a Saturday to make sure none of the servers crash during the heavy use periods. Personally, I think a few of them are from the Andromeda galaxy. 😉

      • #3127728

        Nah

        by ldyosng ·

        In reply to Has anyone considered….

        Most of ’em are from Uranus

        • #3127726

          We were doing so well, too

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Nah

          I’ve been scanning this thread waiting for the first Uranus “joke”. You weren’t on my list of peers who would stoop for such a cheap laugh (I am, by the way but I resisted).

          YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN THIS. :p

        • #3127652

          Careful Neil, maybe she is the queen of……….

          by sleepin’dawg ·

          In reply to We were doing so well, too

          Uranus!!! :^O Maybe the reason you stood GG up???LOL

          [b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

        • #3127650

          Now you *were* on my list of suspects

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Careful Neil, maybe she is the queen of……….

          to be the first to use a Uranus joke!

          :p

        • #3128575

          HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

          by ldyosng ·

          In reply to Careful Neil, maybe she is the queen of……….

          BTW – Thank you for not adding any reference to Klingons.

          (So what’s wrong indulging in the occassional cheap laugh? Sometimes I just can’t resist – heck – my ex-husbands are evidence of that!)

    • #3123168

      Defensive Plan ‘A’

      by advancewithit ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      Here is the defensive plan:

      1) Mount an unprecedented spam campaign against the alien invaders. I suggest the subject title should be ‘Your eBay Account Details have Expired’.

      2) The unwary, PC illiterate alien will click on a link in the email which will download a ‘malicious file’ onto their Apple Giga-Quantum Holographic Microscopic iPod Maxi.

      3) The file will be programmed to run at a certain date/time and redirect all browser URL requests for their news websites to a spoof page with the title ‘Earth War Unjustified – No WMDs Found’.

      4) Because they will invaribly believe the media reports, they will lose trust in their governments and demand an investigation into allegations that Planet Earth had WMDs in the first place.

      5) Peaceful demonstrations on planet Zarg will prove effective and the war against Earth will be called off. Planet Earth will be happy, peaceful and prosperous once more – just like it is now.

      • #3130155

        I see a career opportunity here

        by roy penfold ·

        In reply to Defensive Plan ‘A’

        Security Consultant required by Intergalactic Species.

        (Job description provided by agency).

        Must be conversant with humanoid anti-virus procedures.

        At least 50 years experience in Mac OS-X.

        Ability to speak Zaarb and program in SDTREVes V5.14 advantageous.

        Generous package offered, including free inter-galactic travel passes and Company Inter-planetary skeeter.

    • #3123111

      Paul Hellyer is a stupid old fart

      by jamesrl ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      He was defense minister in the 60s – 40 years ago. He presided over many acts that downgraded tha capabilities of the Canadian Armed Forces.

      But I suspect you knew that….

      James

      • #3127651

        Stands to reason. He was a stupid young fart too!!!

        by sleepin’dawg ·

        In reply to Paul Hellyer is a stupid old fart

        :^O

        [b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

        • #3127648

          You would know

          by jamesrl ·

          In reply to Stands to reason. He was a stupid young fart too!!!

          Since you are obviously older than me….

          I didn’t start reading newspapers till I was 6, and that would have been in the mid sixties when he was already middle aged….I assume you are older than that if you knew him when he was young…

          My uncle was in the armed forces, and one of the results of Hellyers stupid scheme to merge the separate branches of the forces into one, was that I got a lot of old RCAF badges.

          James

      • #3128262

        Conspiracy?

        by viztor ·

        In reply to Paul Hellyer is a stupid old fart

        Perhaps he did it as part of a conspiracy to make us more vulnerable to the invaders.

        The more important question is “Can we get a copy of the operating system the aliens are using?”

    • #3123026

      Chewbacca called

      by jck ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      He’s busy with the Ewoks…he’ll get back to ya. 😀

    • #3123410

      Intergalactic?

      by montgomery gator ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      An intergalactic war seems pretty improbable, when you consider the distance between galaxies. Interplanetary war might be more likely, but that would mean that another planet has mastered interstellar travel, hyperdrive, etc., or wait until Cochran develops the warp drive to make Star Fleet possible. 🙂

      Now, if you follow Stargate SG-1, you know there already has been intergalactic war, with the Asgard (from another galaxy) fighting the Goauld in our own galaxy. The Asgard even made intergalactic travel possible for humans, supplying Stargate Command with hyperdrive technology for Earth ships (the Prometheus, for example) to reach the Pegasus Galaxy to resupply the Earth colony Stargate Atlantis. 🙂

      • #3123224

        SG-1

        by bfilmfan ·

        In reply to Intergalactic?

        Actually this season has been so stupid that I’ve taken to watching episodes of Andromeda to raise my IQ back up…..

        • #3127605

          I’m inclined to agree

          by road-dog ·

          In reply to SG-1

          but I’m hanging in there waiting for the new plotline and reconstituted cast to hit their stride.

          I’m not sure how these new bad guys are going to work out. I’m suspicious that the the Auri are maybe a clumsy metaphor for religious fundamentalism.

          Having Claudia Black running around in tight leather was the only saving grace for a while there.

          Until then, do what I do. Take your brain out and put it on the window sill to collect sun and enjoy the show.

        • #3128763

          Claudia Black

          by montgomery gator ·

          In reply to I’m inclined to agree

          Agreed about your assessment of the show. Claudia Black is a good enough reason to watch Stargate SG-1. Similar reason why I watch Stargate Atlantis, for Rachel Luttrell.

          I found it an interesting pairing, to reunite Claudia Black and Ben Browder, who both starred in Farscape, which was one of my favorite Sci-Fi shows.

          Just sit back, watch, and remember “Hallowed are the Ori”. I guess they have to come up with a villain to replace the Goauld, since they and the Replicators have been defeated.

        • #3128662

          There must always be bad guys….

          by road-dog ·

          In reply to Claudia Black

          Otherwise what interest could you generate from simple exploration? I like epic type villains like the Goauld. Their evil was very basic, slavery by possession, something worse than death.

          What made them fun was their “over the top” pompousness and their repeated defeats by those they dismissed and constantly underestimated.

          I’d really like to see a new type of villian with similar qualities.

          I’m not entirely sure what will fit the bill.

          Bad guys have to be bad in a way that makes one think about one’s own qualities and values. We should examine exactly what separates us from our enemies because what we oppose is an element of what defines us.

          I know that’s a tall order, but hey, I’m trading an hour of my life per episode. You have to make that hour count!

    • #3123358

      I don’t worry about an intergalactic war with extraterrestrials at all

      by aldanatech ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      Paul Hellyer thinks so? I think he better think again. An intergalactic war with extraterrestrials is among the last things that worry me. If they ever wanted to start a war with us they would’ve done it long ago. They would of won because their technology is of course more advanced than ours, by far. In fact, I wouldn?t be surprise that a lot of it would be beyond our understanding, but so far there is no solid evidence that they had used it against us. Why would Paul Hellyer think an intergalactic war is inevitable? Probably because like most of us, he grew up with fiction stories about alien invasions on TV and other media.

      My suggestion to the former Canadian Minister of Defense and Deputy Prime Minister, and everyone who shares his concern is to stop all that pointless paranoia. Yes, I do believe intelligence outside of our world exist, but I have taken my time to do my own research and meditate on it; and I came up to the conclusion that they are the complete opposite of what most of us think or what somebody else made us believe. More than anything else, they seem to be interested in helping us evolve in a positive way. Of course will be nearly impossible to achieve if we continue with our erroneous “war of the worlds” view of them.

    • #3127769

      Begin with a basic set of assumptions

      by road-dog ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      Discussion of such a hypothetical situation requires a solution based upon a couple of assumptions. These are mine:

      1) We will lose
      2) The aliens’ agenda probably is not the seizure of natural resources for the reasons aptly described earlier in this thread. This being the case, humans are the target rather than an impediment requiring removal. Annihilation will be their objective, or perhaps some form of slavery or use of us as farm animals.
      3) Society will end and we will each be left to our own devices for our own survival.

      OK, now the planning.

      1) Talk your CIO into a disaster recovery site that is deep underground and has self-contained electrical power. A big screen TV with a DVD would be necessary in order to support the servers in the bunker.
      2) Being the person to regularly maintain this facility, each visit you bring DVDs, beer, Doritos, canned food, and shotgun shells.
      3) Locate and maintain contact information on a “top 5” desirable women in your company. Update list in case of marriage and/or children to avoid messy entanglements.

      Execution:

      When the Fox News info-babes announce the inevitable end of the world, call those women in the updated list in step 3 above and make them the offer they’re not likely to refuse. Begin with, “remember back at the company Christmas party when you said ‘not if you were the last man on earth’, well, care to reconsider?”

      Prepare to repel boarders, your fellow IT department members, the CEO and his “Admin Assistant”, etc. Remember that civilization has fallen and they are no longer your friends or superiors. The CEO is a large threat to your earstwhile alpha male status. He must be terminated on sight.

      Once sealed away in your stratolounger with the girl of your dreams, then set about repopulating the earth.

      • #3127675

        This plan would never work

        by dmambo ·

        In reply to Begin with a basic set of assumptions

        How long do you think anyone could actually last without frozen burritos? Get real, man. 😀

      • #3128573

        Question

        by ldyosng ·

        In reply to Begin with a basic set of assumptions

        If you two are going to be locked in a basement under the assumption that you are the last couple on earth, what difference would it make if she had “entanglements?”
        Sounds like you are unnecessarily limiting your options . . . .

        • #3128943

          Luckily

          by jellimonsta ·

          In reply to Question

          I live only 4-5 minutes from work, so presuming my wife is at home, I can call her and bring her, and my daughter into my neuclear fall-out server room! 🙂

        • #3127860

          You got to lock down fast

          by road-dog ·

          In reply to Question

          so it is better to not have to debate the relative merits of her joining you in the bunker vs. saving her significant other.

          This is simply a time issue.

          Besides, do you really want to lock down with her pining away for some guy who has been turned into a meat puppet for some alien parasite? That is a recipe for misery. Better to simplify things at the outset.

          As for being unnecessarily limiting one’s options, it is better to bunker up with one’s second or third choice than to get vaporized whilst convincing choice #1 to ditch her current guy.

          yup, I’ve spent ENTIRELY too much time thinking this through……

    • #3128047

      He likes The Golden One.

      by joseluisnavah ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      Things like this happens when the mexican army fumigates mexican fields and canadian smokers buy the product.

    • #3127965

      Interesting article

      by av . ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      Its too bad that we don’t ever have a mention in the US of the existence of UFO’s from our government. It really is all dismissed as bunk which will not help us if there ever was an intergalactic war.

      Personally, one of my hobbies is astronomy. I have spent many a night outside with my telescope. I have seen alot of objects in the sky that aren’t on any star map or they don’t act like planes or jets do. They aren’t satellites either.

      I’m sure our government doesn’t want to admit that there are UFOs, but the first step to me is that they have to acknowledge publicly the existence of them. Only then can we really prepare.

    • #3127934

      Reply To: Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      by razor1947 ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      I really don’t see a need to worry about a war with our cosmic neighbors. You put us in to high of a standard.
      The truth, as I see it is. They are far more advanced than we are, and they have been keeping tabs on us. They know humans are destructive, and war like. We are not worth the trouble, for them to get involved. Unless they consider us a food source. As we do with other animals that share our world.

    • #3128235

      Get a grip

      by cagedmonkey ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      I think your chances of being hit by a bus on your way home from work are far greater than being in a intergalactic war.

      Could I possibly be missing something here? Last I checked my homeowners insurance policy they don’t specifically deny coverage for interglactic wars. So maybe I might be covered if something happens. If we are in an intergalactic war do you think my health insurance would cover it also, or would I have to use my umbrella policy for that?

      I’m sorry but I think there are much more pressing issues to worry about than being in a war with someone we have never seen nor had any contact with. I think our imaginations are just a little bit over-stimulated from all the Hollywood movies.

      • #3128158

        Yes, but

        by road-dog ·

        In reply to Get a grip

        Are you really be sure that the alien invaders aren’t planning on taking us all out with busses?

        I can see it now…. alien controlled bus drivers mowing us down by the hundreds and moving toward their evil ends.

        They will probably opt to use commonplace things to destroy us. Hurricanes, traffic accidents, Pauly Shore movies, etc

        If you read the fine print, your insurance policies probably contain verbage allowing them to weasel out of your big payoff in the event your Plymouth Fury III atracts the attention of one of the aliens with his plasma rifle.

        Start talking about that disaster recovery site, I’m telling you…. before it’s too late!

        • #3128123

          Get a grip again

          by cagedmonkey ·

          In reply to Yes, but

          Disaster recovery just won’t cut it at that point.

          I think we’ll need planet recovery at that point.

          Could we just reboot the planet and see what happens. They did it in the movie THE CORE. But then we’ll have to get some of that fancy metal called unobtainium.

          Any life form dumb enough to come muck up our plantet better get in line cuz we’re already on our way to mucking it up ourselves.

          Hell, maybe pushing some people back into the stone age wouldn’t be half-bad. At least some countries wouldn’t notice if that happened.

        • #3126670

          LOL

          by razor1947 ·

          In reply to Get a grip again

          Right on. If they had any sense at all, they would pass old mother earth up !!

        • #3124438

          I suspect you misunderstood…

          by road-dog ·

          In reply to Get a grip again

          The DR site was a place to survive the holocaust in high style with a bag of Doritos in one hand and a blonde in the other.

          As for mucking up the planet to prevent conquest, that’s not really a solution. Any raiding party with sufficient technology to get here will definitely have the technology to turn whatever mess we’ve made into whatever suits them.

          Until then “Earth First! (we’ll strip mine the other planets later)

    • #3129701

      The Ruling Class

      by raven2 ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      Rome fell partially because of lead poisoning causing the leaders to become deranged.

      What is with the ruling classes of the Western “powers”, it seems like many of these “leaders” or “want-a-be” leaders have some sort of madness decending on them.

      Maybe it is god’s revenge against powerhungry fools. I personally would prefer a bolt or two of well directed lightning.

    • #3126577

      If it does, then we’ll lose it

      by neilb@uk ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

    • #3130128

      Run to the moons Saturn…

      by dlauer9 ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      We can run to the moons of Saturn. (Please put on your tin foil hats, Drink lots of Beer and Jack… wait 5 minutes Drink more then Click)

      http://www.rinf.com/news/nov05/lucifer-project.html

      I found this site by unsafe clicking… Enjoy 🙂

    • #3120680

      IG War

      by roscoedelong ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      Impossible. Logisticaly if no other reason.

    • #3134890

      That was NOT the premise of his speech

      by ufodisk ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      The premise of his speech was that we need to have a DIALOGUE with exterrestrial races currently visting the Earth….in my opinion we are MORONS if we don’t stop OUR agressive attitude toward them….they are not firing at us we once in awhile fire our particle weapons at them….

      • #3134885

        Hello

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to That was NOT the premise of his speech

        Particle weapons? “Exterrestrial races currently visting the Earth”

        What [b]are[/b] you on about?
        or
        What [b]are[/b] you on?
        or
        What [b]are[/b] you?
        or
        What?

    • #3092701

      No where to run or hide!

      by zr_0x ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      Funny how this comes around every couple of years.

      We have never been to the moon, but are apparently going back again some time soon, with the SAME technology that apparently took us there before. Almost 40 years later, and we have not set our sights further, because we cant!

      If Aliens can come and go as they please, then before our vastly inferior defense systems are ready, we would be vaporised by a deep space anal probe 🙂

    • #2787106

      Hello, What do the Masses Know About ExtraTerrestrials and the latter ? ? ?

      by sins ·

      In reply to Is Intergalactic War Inevitable?

      Not Much . . .

      Billy Meier and the Plejaren Federation are aware of my Power . . .

      They know who is ExtraTerrestrial and who is merely a human being . . .

      Who is to say the ETs aren’t on the earth plotting the same kind of attack against their own planet, planet earth.

      The same planet that has insidiously supported Biblical lies and nonsense from day One.

      Who would want to attack our Earth ?

      Would it be a challenge ? you users of this forum are so arrogant it is not to be believed . . .

      The War is coming, how about you choose the Right side . . .

      Jack (Sins@europe.com)

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