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by road-dog

but I'm hanging in there waiting for the new plotline and reconstituted cast to hit their stride.

I'm not sure how these new bad guys are going to work out. I'm suspicious that the the Auri are maybe a clumsy metaphor for religious fundamentalism.

Having Claudia Black running around in tight leather was the only saving grace for a while there.

Until then, do what I do. Take your brain out and put it on the window sill to collect sun and enjoy the show.

by jdclyde

I am so PROUD of you!

All that hard work GG and I have been putting into you has finally paid off!

Six months ago, you would not have been the one to make that kind of a connection! :D

That gets you an ATTABOY!
[i]
(and yes, you are correct. No more tongue/anal combinations!)

by maecuff

I'm pretty good at letting the kids express themselves. I wouldn't let my 7 year old get his ear pierced, but when he's 10? Maybe. My older son and I fought constantly about homework and chores. In the end, he didn't do his homework and rarely helped around the house. It did not matter what I did to punish him, I could strip his possessions away until all he had was a bare mattress and dorky clothes and he would still dig his heels in (not that I ever went quite that far). The results of our disagreements were always anger and hurt feelings and really didn't accomplish anything. It took a while for me to figure out that the calmer I stayed, the easier it was for him to stay calm.

by gadgetgirl

well done that man! You finally reached the same level of sewer as the rest of us plebs!

Glad you finally joined us!

(But what took you so long?!)

:x
GG

by dmambo

You ALMOST succeeded in your attempt to rid me of my innocence. Foregt it!! I'm still pure as the driven snow.

Although it does seem that your types do have a lot of fun......hmmmmm......maybe I should....hmmmmm...

by montgomery gator

Agreed about your assessment of the show. Claudia Black is a good enough reason to watch Stargate SG-1. Similar reason why I watch Stargate Atlantis, for Rachel Luttrell.

I found it an interesting pairing, to reunite Claudia Black and Ben Browder, who both starred in Farscape, which was one of my favorite Sci-Fi shows.

Just sit back, watch, and remember "Hallowed are the Ori". I guess they have to come up with a villain to replace the Goauld, since they and the Replicators have been defeated.

by road-dog

Otherwise what interest could you generate from simple exploration? I like epic type villains like the Goauld. Their evil was very basic, slavery by possession, something worse than death.

What made them fun was their "over the top" pompousness and their repeated defeats by those they dismissed and constantly underestimated.

I'd really like to see a new type of villian with similar qualities.

I'm not entirely sure what will fit the bill.

Bad guys have to be bad in a way that makes one think about one's own qualities and values. We should examine exactly what separates us from our enemies because what we oppose is an element of what defines us.

I know that's a tall order, but hey, I'm trading an hour of my life per episode. You have to make that hour count!

by ldyosng

BTW - Thank you for not adding any reference to Klingons.

(So what's wrong indulging in the occassional cheap laugh? Sometimes I just can't resist - heck - my ex-husbands are evidence of that!)

by ldyosng

If you two are going to be locked in a basement under the assumption that you are the last couple on earth, what difference would it make if she had "entanglements?"
Sounds like you are unnecessarily limiting your options . . . .

by jellimonsta

I live only 4-5 minutes from work, so presuming my wife is at home, I can call her and bring her, and my daughter into my neuclear fall-out server room! :)

by road-dog

so it is better to not have to debate the relative merits of her joining you in the bunker vs. saving her significant other.

This is simply a time issue.

Besides, do you really want to lock down with her pining away for some guy who has been turned into a meat puppet for some alien parasite? That is a recipe for misery. Better to simplify things at the outset.

As for being unnecessarily limiting one's options, it is better to bunker up with one's second or third choice than to get vaporized whilst convincing choice #1 to ditch her current guy.

yup, I've spent ENTIRELY too much time thinking this through......

by aldanatech

that most of those claims are either fabricated or distorted? At first it would seem that they just wanted to know more about us, but because of our reaction to those kinds of experiences they have seem to drastically reduced those practices. A lot of those who claim that they were abducted say that the experience were a bit traumatizing, specially for those who were highly skeptical of this phenomena, but that at the same time it was highly revealing and enriching. Several of them have also revealed that there have been those who attempted to either silence them or ridicule them. My suggestion is that we do further research about who those extraterrestrials are and what they're up to. Does that mean that we go UFO hunting? Not necessarily. We can find out more than we thought we would here on Earth if we just know where to look for.

by jdclyde

:D

Tom, you called that one right on target. Chillin has shown him/herself to be a bit of a nut that is unable to express a coherent idea.

I have given up replying to his/her posts.

"what we got here, FAILURE to comunitcate..."

by montgomery gator

Alien abductions, lost time episodes, (and probably the anal probes) were conducted by one of the Asgard appropriately named Loki. He was kicked out of the Asgard scientific community for his unorthodox research methods. The lost time was explained by the abductees replaced with exact clones with the same memory, then the original abductee returned and the clone removed from Earth by Loki.

Loki had replaced Col. O'Neill with a genetic clone with O'Neill's memories. Unfortunately, something went wrong and his clone was a teenager instead of the 50 year old (or however old he is) Col. O'Neill. That is how Stargate Command discoverd what Loki was up to, and the Asgard Commander Thor helped them find and capture Loki.

These Asgard are the same aliens from another galaxy that helped Stargate Command and the rebel Jaffa defeat the Goauld and gave Stargate Command the technology for intergalactic travel.

by mjwx

we'll have to bring Richard Dean Anderson out of retirement and give that man a pocket knife!

BTW is there a dictionary of various geek terms so i can stop explaining these terms to people and point at the book.

by absolutely

After several tries in TR's People search, I noticed that there is only one l in "just_chilin". I say when you misspell your own name -- even an assumed nickname -- you need to "chill" a little less.

by joseluisnavah

Things like this happens when the mexican army fumigates mexican fields and canadian smokers buy the product.

by ebenezet

You are totally correct why would they bother to fight we us....AND by the way we have proof that they can travel trillions of times the speed of light...check this out www.ufonasa.com and look at the footage....It doesn't do justice to the 3 hour video..."Evidence...The Case For NASA UFOs" but give you an idea of the size of the approx. 300 objects we saw going behind this "Tether" during the STS-75 Space Shuttle Mission Feb 28, 1996...these objects are approx. 3 miles across and pulsing in ultra violet energy...(Invisible for those that dont know to our vision) and since they have ZERO mass...they make an end run around Einstein's relativity theory....they could go, using as non-mainstream scientists using their gravity wave propulsion from one end of our own Galaxy (the Milky Way) let alone the 200 billion others instaneously.....

Check out the video....
And as Carol Rosin, who spoke at the Disclosure Project Briefing at the National Press Club said on May 9th, 2001....Werner Von Braun...stated to her 20 yrs ago and many times after that...that we will be convinced that we need to have weapons in space....first because of the evil empire the Russians which were existing at that time (the cold war), then on 3rd world nations and we did...then on rogue nations and that is the currentl scenario and then on asteroids...I am sure you can see that happening...and if all of that fails to convince us to spend hundreds of trillions of dollars on space based weapons (by the way they are NOT needed-Star Wars is complete) they will pull out their trump card and blame having to spend trillions on an ET attack all over the world...and as he was dying on his death bed he stated over and over "and it will all be a lie...it will all be a lie....it will all be a lie....SO DON'T FALL FOR THIS ALIEN ATTACK BULLCRAP FOLKS its just a setup we could be wiped in a nano-second hundreds of thousands of years ago IF they had so desired but they PUT US HERE........later

by mjwx

there's nothing like walking in to the paranoid wing of the local asylum wearing a black suit and talking in to your collar.

PS i have seen an alien, John Howard (the Australian Prime Minister) cant be a human.

by av .

Its too bad that we don't ever have a mention in the US of the existence of UFO's from our government. It really is all dismissed as bunk which will not help us if there ever was an intergalactic war.

Personally, one of my hobbies is astronomy. I have spent many a night outside with my telescope. I have seen alot of objects in the sky that aren't on any star map or they don't act like planes or jets do. They aren't satellites either.

I'm sure our government doesn't want to admit that there are UFOs, but the first step to me is that they have to acknowledge publicly the existence of them. Only then can we really prepare.

by razor1947

I really don't see a need to worry about a war with our cosmic neighbors. You put us in to high of a standard.
The truth, as I see it is. They are far more advanced than we are, and they have been keeping tabs on us. They know humans are destructive, and war like. We are not worth the trouble, for them to get involved. Unless they consider us a food source. As we do with other animals that share our world.

by viztor

Perhaps he did it as part of a conspiracy to make us more vulnerable to the invaders.

The more important question is "Can we get a copy of the operating system the aliens are using?"

by cagedmonkey

I think your chances of being hit by a bus on your way home from work are far greater than being in a intergalactic war.

Could I possibly be missing something here? Last I checked my homeowners insurance policy they don't specifically deny coverage for interglactic wars. So maybe I might be covered if something happens. If we are in an intergalactic war do you think my health insurance would cover it also, or would I have to use my umbrella policy for that?

I'm sorry but I think there are much more pressing issues to worry about than being in a war with someone we have never seen nor had any contact with. I think our imaginations are just a little bit over-stimulated from all the Hollywood movies.

by road-dog

Are you really be sure that the alien invaders aren't planning on taking us all out with busses?

I can see it now.... alien controlled bus drivers mowing us down by the hundreds and moving toward their evil ends.

They will probably opt to use commonplace things to destroy us. Hurricanes, traffic accidents, Pauly Shore movies, etc

If you read the fine print, your insurance policies probably contain verbage allowing them to weasel out of your big payoff in the event your Plymouth Fury III atracts the attention of one of the aliens with his plasma rifle.

Start talking about that disaster recovery site, I'm telling you.... before it's too late!

by cagedmonkey

Disaster recovery just won't cut it at that point.

I think we'll need planet recovery at that point.

Could we just reboot the planet and see what happens. They did it in the movie THE CORE. But then we'll have to get some of that fancy metal called unobtainium.

Any life form dumb enough to come muck up our plantet better get in line cuz we're already on our way to mucking it up ourselves.

Hell, maybe pushing some people back into the stone age wouldn't be half-bad. At least some countries wouldn't notice if that happened.

by raven2

Rome fell partially because of lead poisoning causing the leaders to become deranged.

What is with the ruling classes of the Western "powers", it seems like many of these "leaders" or "want-a-be" leaders have some sort of madness decending on them.

Maybe it is god's revenge against powerhungry fools. I personally would prefer a bolt or two of well directed lightning.

by maecuff

I don't need to cross breed to do that. A box or two of hostess cupcakes should do the trick..

by mycroftholmes_4

You forgot our nature.

Distance - As soon as we get an economical way out of our gravity well we will explode into the solar system. As soon as we get warp drive, there goes the neighborhood.

Resources - Your argument holds for typical items but exotics such as plants and animals from other world? We will harvest/collect them and bring them to earth and anywhere else we call home.

Energy/tech - After solar system mobility we will sell our grandmother for a warp drive, from anyone.

Living Room - The New World colonization should teach us, when we discover it we will claim it and take it no matter who else claims it and no natter how inhospitable it seems at first. We are a colonizing species. We will take anyt ball of dirt we can find and kill BEMs that happen to be there no matter how friendly they are. Ask the Native Americans.

Food- Same as the resources above. If it is exotic and we can eat it we will take it. If we cannot eat it we will burn it and plant ouw own food.

Just because WE arer nasty? Yes, they are f**ked! We will sit on their doorstep and drop rocks on them from orbit just because we can not mate with them. And if we can mate with them we will try to enslave them.

Interstellar War is inevitable, because we have not grown up yet.

by hitoweruk

When you say "we" will start it, what I guess you are really saying is America will start it! I was going to say "...leave the UK out of this one" but our "president" Blair couldn't resist siding up to Bush and dragging us into a war that we didn't start, or want! Still, the US has a history of "sorting out" other peoples problems and minding other peoples business doesn't. Indeed, any culture becomes a fair target if it is in disagreement with the US! I suspect that most aliens would fall into this category and so the simple answer to the question at the head of this thread would be "Yes" the US would inevitably start a war with someone.... or something!

by cagedmonkey

I may be American but I am not one who shares in the zeal of the government to go out and be the police/military of every goverment we don't like.

Personally I think our government spends far too much time trying to "make the world a better place," with our form of government". It's time to bring the troops home and work on our own problems not everyone elses.

by hitoweruk

That's good to hear CagedMonkey. It's interesting to see more and more independant-thinking Americans standing up and being counted. The war in Iraq was a big mistake and even the US and UK governments are hoping it will go away! Now Mr Bush, listen to the words of your own citizen, Cagedmonkey, and MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS before you try minding everyone elses; (even aliens from some distant solar system far, far away......)!

by razor1947

You seem to have a lot of negetive feedback.
If it wan't for the United States, a german flag would fly high in your country, And the Union Jack would be part of history.

On top of all this, England has been doing the same for centuries. What a short memory our English friends have.

by Member 25348569

We've done "how you won the war and saved us" before. The [b]Russians[/b] beat the Germans with help from The UK and the US and the commonwealth countries.

btw. Don't bother replying. This is a thread for funnies. Look at the bloody title!

by razor1947

I'd still fight by your side, being an American, and England being our sister country. You sir are the gentleman that is upset. I'm sorry the americans were of no help to you, and yours.

There is no country that is perfect, nor have perfect people in it, but do you really think if England was in trouble, and she asked the US for some help, that we wouldn't be right by your side ??

I do apoligize, if I have offended you. I really didn't think that you harbered such feelings.
Ray Wooden, Detroit MI USA

by hitoweruk

Just like most American's, you have selective memory syndrome. I would suggest that you read your history books. You "joined in" the 2nd WW because you just couldn't resist it!! Anyway, from where we "Europeans" stand, a German flag is much more preferable than a US one (and, btw, much more popular). Can you not see how most of the world despises America, its policies and the it's big-headed people? Is that really brought about by all you yanks "helping out" and rescuing the world from tyranny and helping rid the world of terrorism (something that we had to put up with for years until you suddenly became aware of it on 11-9); indeed, the US was even funding the terrorist IRA for years! I would suggest that you clean up your own crime-ridden, gun-shooting country before you try and put the rest of us to rights!

by cagedmonkey

Seems like the only time the US gov't gets involved is when US gov't money/interest is on the line and can find a reason to "spread democracy". The US gov't just doesn't get the fact that not every country wants/needs democracy.

by razor1947

Well thankyou sir for your history lesson. Your strong words are your opion. I have always like' and appreciated the English people, there are none prouder. In the name of politics you choose to slander good hard working people.
Have your fun mate, it's just a shame, that you are blinded in such a way.
Respectfully, Ray Wooden, Detroit MI, USA

by jellimonsta

with all of these 'toffey nosed' remarks against American citizens?

I was born and raised in the UK (West Mids) and came to live in the US 8 years ago. From my experience, it does not appear that a US citizen is any more 'big headed' than a citizen of any other country in the world.

If they seem proud, I think they deserve that right. I would rather live in a tin shack in the US than a $400,000 house in the UK. At least here I know there would be ample opportunity to work towards that $400,000 house in a few years time.

I know England is a depressed country and all, but slandering someone else does not usually work at making yourself feel better. IMHO.

by dlauer9

Just want to add my two cents:

When people complain about Governments or countries they tend to complain about their own countries media shows them of the other country. I elect the better of the evil choices for goverment. After that I have no voice in what happens. If I have enough time and money I can protest what is happening. Sometimes this can help, but.....

Oh yeah, this internet thingy was created by Al Gore, an American. (It was really made by his wife but, she wanted him to have something to brag about.)

With love of the net ;)

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by Member 25348569

Read your post - the one that I actually replied to:

"If it wan't for the United States, a german flag would fly high in your country, And the Union Jack would be part of history."

That devalues, at least in my eyes, the lives lost in the years between when the war started for my parents - 1939 - up to when the USA joined. One of those lives was my Uncle although I never met him as I wasn't born then.

And, as I said, the people who [b]really[/b] suffered most and contributed most in WWII were the Russians. We also did our bit and so did the US and I believe that the outcome would have been different without any one of us.

In terms of population, the country that contributed most were the Canadians.

In no way did I say that the US was of "no help to us". I said, and I quote: "The Russians beat the Germans with help from The UK and the US and the commonwealth countries". Read your history without the red, white and blue specatacles. Read my bloody posts [b]properly[/b].

And as for your other comment: "On top of all this, England has been doing the same for centuries." Agreed, but until this last stupid, short-sighted and illegal escapade in Iraq, we'd given it up for a hundred years or more.

Hurt feelings? Not at all. I just like to let people know when they're wrong!

Neil

btw, We've asked for the US's help in combating Global Warming. Right by our side? I don't think so!

by Member 25348569

Chill out. I think everyone is over-reacting. This little snippy subthread came from Razors rather inflammatory answer to HiTower's first gung-ho anti-US post.

Both are new peers and are way out of line.

So are you, by the way, in that you reckon we're depressed. That's not the way I see it. Both countries have their good and bad points. I [b]have[/b] a $400,000 house. I'd rather be living here than in a tin shack in the US. Except for the bloody weather!

A $400,000 house in the US? Well, I'll think about that one. New Orleans, maybe?

Neil :D

by hitoweruk

Slander??? I can see why you went to the US! They can't speak proper English either. Surely, you mean libel? ...and for something to be libelous, it has to be untrue, so that's 2 things you got wrong! Hope you settle in well. Let me assure you that pride has absolutely nothing to do with it. If by England you mean the UK (forgotten the old place in only 8 years?), then I would suggest that you too have succumbed already to the insulated life that most US citizens live. Have you really got no idea of what is happening in your own country? Unemployemnt is practically the lowest in Europe and it's certainly lower than the US (Your CIA's own figures, not mine!) Our GDP per capita is higher that Germany, France, Italy, Monacco, Singapore, Taiwan and over 200 other countries (not the US of course). England is NOT a depressed country and you should be ashamed of yourself for not even knowing it!! At least Americans are proud of their country when abroad and they appear better informed about their own country, so it would seem. BTW, we don't use dollars in the UK but at todays rates, your $400K house equates to ?227K and believe it or not, you can buy a very nice house made of bricks for that sum of money! Put some windows in your tin house and you might see what is going on around you! IMHO!

by road-dog

The DR site was a place to survive the holocaust in high style with a bag of Doritos in one hand and a blonde in the other.

As for mucking up the planet to prevent conquest, that's not really a solution. Any raiding party with sufficient technology to get here will definitely have the technology to turn whatever mess we've made into whatever suits them.

Until then "Earth First! (we'll strip mine the other planets later)

by jellimonsta

If you were to spend 1 year in the US Mid West and then 1 year in the UK West Mids, you would see what I mean about a depressed country. Of course both countries have good and bad points, all countries do (at least the countries in the 3 continents I have lived on). :)

If you are going to buy a $400,000 house in New Orleans, you might want to make it a decked out barge or something. By the way, as for weather we have a blizzard warning for tomorrow and may get about 8" of snow to add on to the 10" in the last week or so. :)

by ufodisk

The premise of his speech was that we need to have a DIALOGUE with exterrestrial races currently visting the Earth....in my opinion we are MORONS if we don't stop OUR agressive attitude toward them....they are not firing at us we once in awhile fire our particle weapons at them....

by Member 25348569

Particle weapons? "Exterrestrial races currently visting the Earth"

What [b]are[/b] you on about?
or
What [b]are[/b] you on?
or
What [b]are[/b] you?
or
What?

by zr_0x

Funny how this comes around every couple of years.

We have never been to the moon, but are apparently going back again some time soon, with the SAME technology that apparently took us there before. Almost 40 years later, and we have not set our sights further, because we cant!

If Aliens can come and go as they please, then before our vastly inferior defense systems are ready, we would be vaporised by a deep space anal probe :)

by sins

Not Much . . .

Billy Meier and the Plejaren Federation are aware of my Power . . .

They know who is ExtraTerrestrial and who is merely a human being . . .

Who is to say the ETs aren't on the earth plotting the same kind of attack against their own planet, planet earth.

The same planet that has insidiously supported Biblical lies and nonsense from day One.

Who would want to attack our Earth ?

Would it be a challenge ? you users of this forum are so arrogant it is not to be believed . . .

The War is coming, how about you choose the Right side . . .

Jack (Sins@europe.com)

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