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Is it the video card?

By jtmohio415 ·
I am not sure where to get started. It seem like the computer doesn't have enough cooling system? My problem started out when I tried to add more memory to my computer. I have the PowerSpec 7120, and since then, it has not been the same again. I have a Pentium III 450mhz, originally with 64 megs of ram, now it has 256. Had added cd burner and a 2nd hard drive. The problem is that if I used my computer for an extended period of time, it will come to a point where it crashes. I can only reboot itafter cooling it off for a few hours. I thought it is the video card, because I hear it clicking when everytime I try to reboot it right after it crashes, and the screen remains blank.

Another question, I only have one available PCI slot, am I limited to the type of video card I should get?

Thanks for any help.

Julie

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by wchaster In reply to Is it the video card?

You noticed the problem after you added memory. So to confirm the other parts you added where before the memory? You did not expereince any problem after they where install, right?
Then check you motherboard maual and note the type and size of memeory you can add. Is it the what you put in.
If this passes then run your computer with the cover off and watch the internal fans. are they running?
Your manual may indicate that an additonal fan can an should be mounted inside. Than do this.
Sinceyou have not mention replacing the video card I do not see why it would be the problem. Did you damage it when you where upgrading any of the other parts?

Q2: If you do not have an AGP slot and the only slots you have are PCI then to are limited to PCI type card. There are several manufacture to choice from.

Remember to check the manufactures web sites for the new devices to make sure they have no report problems or incompatabilities. They often have updated drivers available.

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by jtmohio415 In reply to Is it the video card?

Thanks! I thought it was the video card, since the clicking sound comes from the monitor. I have a NEC multisync, less than 2 years old. I appreciate your help.

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by Krunch In reply to Is it the video card?

Julie,

This is a link to your pc manufacturer's web page, specifically to your pc model (the 7120)
http://www.powerspec.com/support/support_archive.phtml

Not to confuse the matter, but at some point you will want to upgrade to all of the latest drivers and those are provided for you on that web page mentioned above. (Drivers for your system board, sound card, modem, etc. all are listed there for you - 95, 98, NT, ME and 2K - linux isn't mentioned.)

You mentioned that you just added memory. On the web page above, if you go to the TechNotes section and check under the first item (Upgrading RAM) it mentions that you will either want to use PC66 or PC100 RAM and that you do NOT want to mix your memory types. It also says you can use PC133 but you will not realize a performance gain using it.

Your problem *may* be that your memory is mixed - I would start checking there since your problems seemed to have cropped up since then. Or the memory may just not be compatible w/your machine - make sure you use something compatible or what the manufacturer recommends.

Good luck and I hth.

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by jtmohio415 In reply to Is it the video card?

Somehow it all started with the upgrade of the memory. And you are right. Using 256mb PC133 does not show any improvement in performance. I now have a dead power supply. So I am replacing the memory and the power supply. Thanks so much!

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by donmars In reply to Is it the video card?

First I am sure the problem is not your Video Card or memory and also, you can add any type PCI video card you want. If you have an AGP slot you can use that for an agp video card and save your pci slot. Your motherboard (intel 810 chipset) also hasa 3d graphics video output ( 4 megs shared mem), integrated. Anyway your problem lies in one of two, or both areas. You either have an overheating condition or a weak/bad power supply. If you remove the cover and check the fans (little CPU fan etc.)you will probably find them all working. Its just that there is too much heat for the stock fans to remove. Remember to put the cover back or your unit will definately overheat without it, fan or no fan. The second hard drive you installed is probably a large one, 20 gigs and up. The ticking you hear is the drive not able to operate properly because your power supply does not have the wattage to handle your fully loaded system. All those drives and the video card generate a lot of heat, specially the big HD, and drag down the power supply. You need a 300 watt and up P/S. So try unplugging the slave drive, both power and signal ribbon cable and run it for awhile. See if the problem goes away. Check the label on the power supply for the rated wattage, if its under 250 replace it. The P/S could still be defective even if it is a 300 watt supply! Does the memory check complete ok? Your memory is OK. My money is on Heat and power supply problem.

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by donmars In reply to Is it the video card?

With reference to kcmeister's (answer #6) statement about not being able to disable integrated onboard video for the 810 chipset, I can only speak from experience. I have worked with several boxes with motherboards running the intel 810 chipset ( AOPEN, DELL etc) and you can disable the integrated graphics adapter under cmos setup. I do not know why any mfg would not permit you to use an advanced graphics adapter add-on on their product.

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by jtmohio415 In reply to Is it the video card?

Thanks for the help. I have to replace the memory (from PC133 to PC100), and also, my power supply just died. Ordered a 300-watt, it's on its way. Hit it right on target. Thanks again!

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by tjc In reply to Is it the video card?

I agree with Donnars - I had a simular problem where the comptuer after a few hours would shutdown/re-boot and would have to wait 20 minutes or so to "cool down" before it would come on - and I had the same thing you can hear the hard drive speed upand then "clunk" turn off - I replaced the power supply and it was all fine.

Also I then put it on a UPS since I figured the power line was dirty - giving small 'brown outs' every so often. I figured that was killing the Power supply.

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by jtmohio415 In reply to Is it the video card?

Thanks! I appreciate the response.

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by kcmeister In reply to Is it the video card?

donmars has it right for the most part. Most likely heat related or power related. Not your memory or video card. **** out dust in pc (acts as insulation) make sure fans are working properly. Some bios have hardware manager that can tell you cputemp. Make sure fan on power supply working as well. Also: if you have the 810 chipset, my understanding is that you cannot disable onboard video, meaning your added video card is not doing anything- check in device manager and make sure proper video adapter is recognized. If that is the case, return video card and get money back if possible- will never work. Check heat related issues first, then power supply- under powered or capacitors are being over charged. 300 watt minimum.
Good luck!

kcmeister

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