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July 20, 2004 at 7:17 pm #2274354
IT support staff.
Lockedby paradox667 · about 18 years, 6 months ago
Hi all,
I’m just writing to find out if there are any industry guidelines for the number of IT staff in a given environment.
For this example:
400 workstations
12 servers
70 3com switches
1 router
27 printers
1500 users.
2 IT staff (sharing 67.5 hours per week) – managing all of the above + helpdesk duties.I am in the position where I need to provide a recommendation to the staffing group at the site I work at, and am looking for hard evidence (other than the fact that both the IT people are developing twitches and balding) to support the fact that we are understaffed.
Any suggestions where to look, who to talk to, or guidelines to follow?
*please note this is not some huge company but a highschool*
Cheers for any help.
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July 20, 2004 at 8:26 pm #2700184
Search this site
by thechas · about 18 years, 6 months ago
In reply to IT support staff.
I suggest that you search this site.
There have been a number of discussions on this topic. Along with a couple of articles.
Bottom line, there is no “fixed” “reliable” industry guideline.
Each situation is unique.
You need to determine for your situation what to measure to see if support is “adequate”.Chas
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September 20, 2004 at 3:06 am #2708214
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by aldoseri · about 18 years, 4 months ago
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i guess you better think of Location Wise & the Fastest Resoulation time to serv your users.
@ our orginizations 1 Support member Serv around 100 Users or sometimes 200 …
it all depend on the load & how much your budget is going to handle (Staffing & the reset of the package)
Regards
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September 23, 2004 at 4:06 am #2720921
IT Suport Staffing Ratio
by dayit · about 18 years, 4 months ago
In reply to IT support staff.
Search tech republic for a pdf titled staffratio.pdf, contains all the info you need. it is an extract from a Gartner study. If you cannot find it write to me at dayanand98@yahoo.com.
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September 23, 2004 at 4:49 am #2720910
Tough call
by racote · about 18 years, 4 months ago
In reply to IT support staff.
If you were a business I would say that you should have a
staff of of about 12.
2 Help desk generalist (determine if software or hardware)
$30,000 each + benefits2 Escalation help desk
$40 – 45,000 each + benfits2 Network (router and switch)
$60,000 each + benefits2 Server
$55,000 each + benefits2 Service and maintenance. High Schools require a lot of
reimaging.
$35-40,000 each + benefits1 Network / Computer server Security FW, ITS, Anti-virus
$60-75,0000 + benfits1 Manager
75,000 – 85000 + benefitsI know this is a tough sell, but it’s what’s needed for a first
class operation to be actively managing and maintaining
the systems. Whatever you do, please resist the urge to
use students for anything that requires access above user.
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September 30, 2004 at 2:28 am #2702179
General Rule of Thumb
by walter-ppk · about 18 years, 4 months ago
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For support I use 50 Staff to 1 IT. That will need to flex as a company grows so 50-60 is the best. Make sure your not geting too close to 70.
Larger firms tend to be more efficent and pamper less to users needs so figures of 100 to 1 and sometimes 150 to 1 can be common but they tend have long lead times for most tasks and dont provide a very responsive buisness.
400 Workstations and 1500 users will mean you will need to add a weighting to take in to account the extra training type questions you will get over an extended user base – Stuff like – How do I set up Out of Office etc.
Once you have worked that out you will then need to sort out your back-office staff.
Management of the Servers [Im assuming Windows Here] with little investment in tools to reduce the mundane tasks is about 25 Servers to 1 IT Member. With the right tools and experiance you can get about 50 to 1.
Management of the network is a tricky one – Do you have firewalls, VPN’s, remote workers etc. Based on your supplied info the Network Administration could handle that workload but you will need to keep an eye on what volume he/she has so you can add extra staff if required.
Management of the department, board reports, liasing with Business heads, Business need research, Product Research, Support Management, Project and Change management, Documentation, Purchasing, Budget Management and general slack for Holiday cover means you will need at least 1 IT Manager.
These ratios will provide a balanced but effective department. Get that message accross and your manager etc can then say what response times, expectations should be delivered and you can then taylor it accordingly. If they want to reduce that service level [I.e server uptime, response times to requests etc] then you can show that by altering the Support Ratio etc. The last thing about this method however is that it makes justifying budget for department and IT staff investment really easy – something which can be difficult. For example – You want some software to monitor event logs and server health. This is currently done manaually once a week and consumes 2 hours. The software costs ?3,000 and if invested in would increase his ratio of capacity from ’25 to 1′ to ’30 to 1′. The payback would be weeks and your department then has extra capacity [not doing a mundane task] to work on the nicer stuff. Works with training too.
Regards
John
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October 19, 2004 at 3:26 pm #3310202
good luck on that one
by sleepless in wa · about 18 years, 3 months ago
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I just came from an US public school environment. For them 50 to 1 would be a pipedream. 500 to 1 is more like it. Hopefully our mother country has more money than her colonies. Best of luck.
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December 28, 2004 at 3:31 pm #3318024
hungry for more
by jmorr · about 18 years, 1 month ago
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hey john,
i like this alot, can you give me more? in addition to IT, i also have shipping/receiving, facilities, corporate services and logistics, can you help me out in those areas too? I’ve searched and you’re the only one giving sound advise,
best regards,
j
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September 30, 2004 at 2:56 am #2702176
Small college in London
by martinsepion · about 18 years, 4 months ago
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We have one IT Manager (me) and one Network Manager and a Technician in a small college in London. Our infrastructure is as follows;
2 networks (teaching & admin)
8 servers 200 workstations 50 laptops 35 printers and networked photocopiers
a few graphics tablets, digital projectors, smartboards, wireless network, handheld/tablet PC’s etc.We get by with a ratio of 1:100 technicians to computers but I will be putting in a request for more support staff as our network grows. In the past I used to work on 1:50 but with active directory and the improved stability of Windows 2003 server and windows XP (over windows NT Windows 95/98)I think 1:100 is reasonable. I reckon I can provide a good level of service and support to the users and the organisation with this level of staff.
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September 30, 2004 at 3:51 am #2702158
Snap (virtually)
by philip.coakes · about 18 years, 4 months ago
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Independent College in SW England
We have one Network (read all IT) Manager (me) and one Technical Manager (main responsibility is hardware maintenance) and a Technician in an Independent College in the South West of England. We all do helpdesk, and break & fix when required.
Our infrastructure is a single network combining our administrative & curriculum delivery. We have 2 NetWare Servers, 2 Windows Application Servers, 1 Unix Server, 250 workstations/laptops & about 60 printers, and about 800 users. We also have a smattering of projectors & interactive whiteboards.
Three years ago it was one full time, and one part time technician. However, we have moved our delivery model way beyond the simple helpdesk & system maintenance that was required back then. Most of my time is taken up with project managing development work, as we add new services and facilities to the network, as well as developing the kind of things that a business would take for granted, such as Web Services & Disaster Recovery planning etc.
The key to being allowed to expand the IT Support team, has been being able to ?sell? the benefits of a value added IT infrastructure to the Senior Management. When they see the IT as an enabler, rather than a cost to be absorbed by the business, the attitude to provision changes dramatically.
How did we do it? Rather than whinging about the lack of resource, we sold them the benefits of increased resource allowing the College to have Web Access to data & email from home; a ?dedicated? resource to develop their departmental Intranet pages for them; a team with time for training in new technologies etc. When the Head and the Senior Management are on board (and maybe even think its their own idea) then we have been able to make significant progress.
We now provide a very good level of service (don’t you love it when you can resolve a users problem inside of 30 minutes), and the staff know we are approachable to develop new systems & services for thier benefit. We are a “can-do” department, and the whole school knows it!
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November 15, 2004 at 4:12 am #3312131
cooperating with you
by danielz58 · about 18 years, 2 months ago
In reply to Small college in London
i am Daniel Zaharia, a computer specialist from Romania. i want to set up a small busines in london as a self employed.i look to cooperate with you. name of my company is ” Zaharia computers service”. i worked for my family computer busines for 3years,in romania.i been in london before six mounths. thank you
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September 30, 2004 at 6:14 am #2702079
Same question!! HELP!
by tmbell · about 18 years, 4 months ago
In reply to IT support staff.
I am a dept of 1 right now (24×7 support) and handle all aspects of IT from Desktop on up including phone system and building security. I have mulitple locations: Corporate office has 70 pcs and phones, 8 servers, 3 switches, 1 router, A Nortel phone system and dvr for security cameras.
I have other offices connecting with terminal server and also support their systems.
How do I justify headcount?? I know I need help, but how do I convince upper management who sees me as a ‘cost’ center instead of a ‘profit’center.-
October 1, 2004 at 9:46 am #2724134
Measure & Track
by tomjedrz · about 18 years, 4 months ago
In reply to Same question!! HELP!
First – you ARE a cost center, unless you generate revenue. The issue is what kind of value the cost brings to the organization.
You have to demonstrate what the additional resources will enable, and the shortcomings of the current staffing situation. Will things get done faster? What is the benefit of that? Will things get done that are not getting done now? Are they things that are needed? The answers seem obvious to you, but they are not to management.
You need to keep track of the time you spend on the various activities (hw support, sw support, network admin, projects, requests, etc).
You also need to keep track of the requests, whether you are able to accomplish them or not, and how long they take. If you don’t have a helpdesk system, get one – http://www.liberum.org is an open source one that runs on IIS.
If you are compensating for the staffing problem by working obscene hours, you are giving a gift to the organization. Cutting your hours may not be a valid business reason to add staff. You should probably cut your hours back to reasonable BEFORE starting to make noise about needing to add a person.
As an aside … if you want the new person to work for you, you will also need to demonstrate that you can manage someone else. Getting organized, tracking time and requests, and cogently justifying another person will demonstrate that as well.
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September 30, 2004 at 6:18 am #2702078
more issues
by jm22 · about 18 years, 4 months ago
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more things to consider that increase the complexity of your job and therefore drive up the cost:
* any special applications you need expertise on? IIS? internal web sites to support?
* are all the workstations identical in hardware and/or system/applications? are students and/or teachers allowed to load their own stuff [indicriminantly] on random computers?My take [having managed 5 servers/200 mixed PC & MAC] is you ought to have one hardware type for caring for hte printers, network, odd hardware problem; 1 tech to support every 50 or so workstations; different techs need a specialty in server, IIS, email server, apps, etc.
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October 1, 2004 at 9:56 am #2724124
Think another way . . .
by tomjedrz · about 18 years, 4 months ago
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I’ll bet that the district HR or some education trade journal has statistics about school district staffing.
I suggest you change your thinking … instead of trying to recommend based on standard ratios, look at what is getting done, what is not getting done, and the problems with the current staffing situation. Measure satisfaction among the users. Measure how long things take. If you don’t have time to measure, make guesses or assumptions. Then make recommendations based on addressing the issues that come to light.
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October 12, 2004 at 3:47 pm #3306976
Risk/mitigation planning
by entwine · about 18 years, 3 months ago
In reply to IT support staff.
One of the best ways to quantify staffing levels for minimum level of IT support staff is to complete a risk/mitigation plan.
Identify groups or classes of problems and typical duties (log checks and so on), then associate a business risk value and mitigation value to each.
Once the values have been assigned, grade the groups of problems and mitigation by priority and associate average resolution times.
Equipped with this newly acquired arsenal you can develop a rich set of statistics which can help you plan (present and future) staffing levels versus fix response times, incorporate the use of deviation plans (for such things as upgrades/patches).
This of course is just one approach and not a definitive guide; nonetheless it is a good starting point. The key to such techniques is the upkeep, once started, management will become dependant upon the stat’s you produce as they will soon realise that you are quantifying and justifying IT spend against business continuity which translates very nicely into boardroom communications. -
October 19, 2004 at 11:39 am #3310274
You’re over staffed!
by nzjade · about 18 years, 3 months ago
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At most high schools there is only one with a teaching staff member or 2 to assist and that is only because IT in that invironment is seen only as an extension of wood or metal work … old school management thinking.
The positive is that younger management does recognise IT support and budget for staff.
Thus in todays environment schools are a business and must be viewed with that thinking supporting the academic environment in the very lucrative and highly competitive education environment.You can approach your diliema by promoting your schools quality learning that is vigorously supported by IT however, to maintain its competitive edge and further increase your institutions standing requires increase in there support base with IT on a par with the teaching staff.
Though the other controlling fact is the schools budget. Unless a proposal is forwarded it cannot be bugeted for.This is very broad … hope it hleps
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November 26, 2004 at 10:11 am #3314996
Be grateful
by kylex · about 18 years, 2 months ago
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Be happy! hehe
I work at a School Distict in Eastern Canada.
My assigned duties (similar to my co workers)
9 Schools
800 Clients
9 Servers
3500 Users
9 Routers
10 Managed Switched
20 (Unmanaged)Switches
Lost count of printers (But there are over 60 networked)I work 36.25 hrs a week. Salary. FT-Perm.
Our Dept has 3 Tech, 1 Manager, 1 Clerk
No, we can’t keep up….. and we can’t bail cause there are no jobs in Atlantic Canada to go to.
Kylex
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November 30, 2004 at 4:56 am #3314691
IT support staff
by mark.johnson · about 18 years, 2 months ago
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I am managing;
1381 users
957 workstations
259 network printers
12 servers
47 switches
3 routers
1 Pix 515
1 Layer 3 fibre switch
in 5 facilities
all by myself working 50 hours a week on average.
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