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By EMJ ·
I have been working in a company for a little over a year with a specific title (one which I will call System Administrations Analyst), another employee, who has a lot less experience than myself, had a job title of "System Technician", which is a few grades lower than the one I held. Now, the titles have been updated, and we have both been give the same title. I am really upset by this considering my experience and expertise is a lot greater, and my job expands into areas in which his does not. I am speaking to my supervisor about this, but I'm really frustrated and stumped by their doing this. Any suggestions?

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Same Position, slightly

by Porsha In reply to Job Titles

I find myself in a similar position at the moment. I am an IT trainer in a department of 1, ie me. I write the courses, schedule them, invite people along, run the courses, write the manuals, collect feedback at the end, do training needs analysis etc. Yet even with doing all this I have been given the title of Training Coordinator. I feel that I am actually performing a job that is slightly more than this, and to make matters worse there is someone in the company with the title of Training Manager. She is in a different department and her job role is to arrange training for the people in the department that she is in. That's it! I have to think that somewhere along the line someone got the 2 of us confused.
All I can suggest is perhaps do as I do - in every training meeting I have with our big IT manager I point out to him that I'm unhappy with my title as it does not reflect my job or my skills and I would like it changed. Nothing's happened yet, but you never know, one day he might just get sick of me going on in every meeting and change it just to shup me up!
All you do is try and explain to them why you're unhappy about the title and hope they listen!
Good Luck

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oops..

by Porsha In reply to Same Position, slightly

sorry last line should have read:
All you can do is try and explain to them why you're unhappy about the title and hope they listen.

Typing fingers too far ahead of thinking brain!!!

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Learn to transcend

by James R Linn In reply to Job Titles

Lots of things happen in life that seem unfair. Its futile and frustrating to try and understand them all. And if you express your frustration you can come off sounding like a whiner.

The thing to focus on are - are YOU getting credit for the jobyou are doing, are you being adequately compensated, do you get the training you need, and is your career development agreed with your boss.

If you are getting all these things, don't worry about what someone else is called.
In my experience I've been a junior title in a lot of senior meetings, and they respect competance and performance over titles.

We all know that sometimes titles are bones that get thrown to employees from time to time.

Now if your boss considers you equals in competancy and doesn't understand the scope of your job, you'd better work on that.

James

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Mr. Big Shot

by lance.gillis In reply to Learn to transcend

I'm a Vice President. That and 5 bucks will get me a latte anywhere. Titles don't do anything except stroke your ego. MONEY is what you want to get paid with, not titles. It's not uncommon for a company to save a few bucks on annual pay increases by bestowing a title instead of $$$$$. They may wait until you really really want it bad and then... you get the title and no bucks. Hey, don't give a hoot what they call you, in the long run its about what you can do not your label. As for jr. Just keep running circles around him/her. The VP will know who's more valuable. You're GREAT. Everybody can see that. Think of how good it makes jr. feel to have the same title as his/her idol. Stay Positive and know that your current employer won't be your last.

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Mr. Big Shot

by lance.gillis In reply to Learn to transcend

I'm a Vice President. That and 5 bucks will get me a latte anywhere. Titles don't do anything except stroke your ego. MONEY is what you want to get paid with, not titles. It's not uncommon for a company to save a few bucks on annual pay increases by bestowing a title instead of $$$$$. They may wait until you really really want it bad and then... you get the title and no bucks. Hey, don't give a hoot what they call you, in the long run its about what you can do not your label. As for jr. Just keep running circles around him/her. The VP will know who's more valuable. You're GREAT. Everybody can see that. Think of how good it makes jr. feel to have the same title as his/her idol. Stay Positive and know that your current employer won't be your last.

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Does it really matter?

by john_knickerbocker@altico In reply to Job Titles

I have been working for the same company for 13 years. My title keeps changing every time they do a job market comparison. Recently I went from PC/LAN Analyst to PC/LAN Tech.. My pay increased. I am not unhappy about that. And with all of the other perks they offer I can live with a title change.

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Thanks!

by EMJ In reply to Job Titles

I do realize that it is just a title, but I wanted to reiterate to my boss that I do a lot more than what this other guy does. I want to be recognized for that, if not with money, than with a title that reflects that. Believe me, I am doing everything possible to improve my situation, and I know I do an excellent job, as does my boss, and his boss. I guess I wanted to see what would be done about this if I asked. I got the runaround, of course. So I will now shut up about it, and keep focused on my goals of taking as many technical classes as I can (on the company's time and money), and going back to school for my degree (on the company's money). Thanks for the wake up call, gang!

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What's in a job title?

by maxwell edison In reply to Job Titles

An interesting article on that subject:

http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayCareers.pl?990524titles.htm

Salary scales & titles:

http://www.infoworld.com/careers/comp_job.html

How do titles relate to the duties of the position? See this link:

http://www.stepfour.com/jobs/

(REMOVE SPACES from the pasted URLs.)

My personal opinion is this. A title is less important than other things. The impact one has on the company’s overall mission is more important. The rewards (salary and bonus) one receives for that impact is more important. The sense of accomplishment one feels is more important. The steady movement towards the accomplishment of one’s goals is more important.

In the end, people aren’t really judged by their title, but rather by the things he or she does for others and/or the things he or she is able to accomplish.

Disclaimer: I realize that in many large firms, titles and “pecking order” are an important part of the social and business structure, and I must admit that I’m not looking at this issue from that perspective. If I were in your shoes, perhaps I‘d see it differently. But I’ve always subscribed to the notion that one’s performance always trumps his or her title. That’s another reason I tend to migrate towards smaller (or my own) companies.

I will say this, however. A good time to discuss this issue is not when you’re “upset” about it, but rather during a performance review. Prepare yourself by looking at your responsibilities, and how they differ from others. If you have strengths or special talents that you contribute (or would like to develop), think about a title that would reflect that. If yourboss dismisses the idea, explain why it’s important. Don’t be afraid to say you need an acknowledgement of the contributions you are making now, so that it ties in to y

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