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    Knoppix 5 DVD Distro

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    by cbalness ·

    After dallying with Knoppix 3.4 in CD form, I returned to it after downloading Knoppix 5.0 in CD form. Tried it, was MOST impressed.

    I noticed they now have an “uber-install” on DVD for the same version, 4 Gbs of Linux goodness. When I’ve tried to acquire it however I’ve run into issues, and I am certain Jaqui could probably steer me straight in a pico-second.

    When I browse to the ISO location (tried it 2 X, I’m a “fast” learner) and select the file, it says 4 Gb, but when the download starts suddenly the size becomes 67 Mb. I was on my sisters breakneck speed DSL connection. After a whirlwind 176 minute download I confirmed the file came down and properties say 67 Mb.

    So I go … WTF ??? If I waited 176 minutes the download should be bigger than 67 Mb, and I’d heard that the Distro is greatly compressed for use on the fly.

    I know the Knoppix crowd are Disk Gods, but I cannot imagine compressing 4 + Gb of Linux wholesomeness into a 67 Mb file… and the file doesn’t look like a self extracting .exe that whips you back to the original location to complete the download so I have no clue what I’m overlooking…

    any ideas anyone ??

    Thanks

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    • #3209076

      Ignore Post 2

      by cbalness ·

      In reply to Knoppix 5 DVD Distro

      Grrrrrrrr…. please ignore post 2.
      The thing came and said I didn’t fill a tag so I hit submit again….

      Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

      • #3209063

        Which one is post 2?

        by stress junkie ·

        In reply to Ignore Post 2

        How about if you go to the other post and add a reply with a title like “Ignore this post. Reply to the other post.”? I say that because I already replied to this post.

        You should also change the body of the other post so that it just says something like the title suggested above. That way your real question is in only one post.

    • #3209064

      Your numbers don’t match what I see

      by stress junkie ·

      In reply to Knoppix 5 DVD Distro

      I looked at the Knoppix.org web site. I went to their download page. The v5.0 Knoppix iso file is 712,926 KB. That means that it will (barely) fit on a 680 MB CD-ROM.

      Given all the rounding of numbers having to do with file size it seems to me that your 67 MB file may, in fact, be a 670 MB file. If your iso file really is too small then delete the copy that you already have and then use the Knoppix ftp site and download it again. Check the file integrity with the MD5 checksum available at the same place. If the file passes the MD5 sum check then you have the real thing in its entirety.

    • #3209038

      I must be missing something as well

      by hal 9000 ·

      In reply to Knoppix 5 DVD Distro

      There is a DVD Version of Knoppix Live though I didn’t get it from the Knoppix.org site and although I use it quite a lot now for new hardware I’m not overly sure where it originally came from but all the Install versions of Knoppix that I’ve ever used have been CD Based.

      I don’t know what you downloaded but it certainly doesn’t sound right.

      Col

      • #3209018

        Knoppix 5 DVD ISO location

        by cbalness ·

        In reply to I must be missing something as well

        Please browse to following location:

        http://www.kernel.org/pub/dist/knoppix/knoppix-dvd/

        You will see not only a Knoppix 5 DVD ISO but also a Knoppix 4 DVD ISO. When I click on the link that says KNOPPIX_V5.0.1DVD-2006-06-01-EN.iso and begin the download that’s when the “fun” starts. I’m interested in seeing how someone else makes out.

        Cheers.

        • #3208992

          Well when I start downloading these files

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to Knoppix 5 DVD ISO location

          KNOPPIX_V5.0.1DVD-2006-06-01-EN.iso

          It comes in at a little over 4 Gig and this file

          KNOPPIX_V4.0.2DVD-2005-09-23-EN.iso

          Comes in at about 3.187 GIG which looks about right.

          However they are ISO images so you’ll need to convert them to a Bootable DVD when you record them to DVD.

          Col

        • #3200204

          probably clicked the wrong thing

          by apotheon ·

          In reply to Knoppix 5 DVD ISO location

          Are you sure you didn’t click the wrong link? The following is listed as being a 70MB file:
          KNOPPIX_V5.0.1DVD-2006-06-01-EN.iso.md5

          This is what you actually want:
          KNOPPIX_V5.0.1DVD-2006-06-01-EN.iso

          I’d just download it myself and arrange to give it to you directly, but the terms of the GPL would require me to then maintain an archive of source code for all GPLed software included in the Knoppix DVD image in a publicly-accessible location for download, which is just not feasible for me. Yes, really. I’m not a huge fan of the GPL for this reason among others

    • #3209011

      bad download, use a torrent

      by jtoppi ·

      In reply to Knoppix 5 DVD Distro

      There was miscomunication somewhere, between your browser and the server. Try a download over a more robust protocol, like Bittorent. Bittorrent software does a variety of checksumming and integrity checks on the file, both after and during the download. You will need to get a bittorrent client, but they are freely available. There is the official bittorrent client, which is rather spartan, or you can use a variety third party tools. I use azureus to download whatever I need.

      Knoppix Torrent site
      http://torrent.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/

      Yes this link did come from the official knoppix site, http://knopper.net

      Bittorrent Official Site
      http://www.bittorrent.com/index.html

      Azureus site
      http://azureus.sourceforge.net/

    • #3209010

      bad download, use a torrent

      by jtoppi ·

      In reply to Knoppix 5 DVD Distro

      There was miscomunication somewhere, between your browser and the server. Try a download over a more robust protocol, like Bittorent. Bittorrent software does a variety of checksumming and integrity checks on the file, both after and during the download. You will need to get a bittorrent client, but they are freely available. There is the official bittorrent client, which is rather spartan, or you can use a variety third party tools. I use azureus to download whatever I need.

      Knoppix Torrent site
      http://torrent.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/

      Yes this link did come from the official knoppix site, http://knopper.net

      Bittorrent Official Site
      http://www.bittorrent.com/index.html

      Azureus site
      http://azureus.sourceforge.net/

      Reach me at
      http://www.freetechsupport.us

      • #3205828

        Thanks…

        by cbalness ·

        In reply to bad download, use a torrent

        I will indeed either try from another location or use Bit Torrent.

        Like the proverbial definition of “crazy” I tried the same tired actions 2 X the same way and wondered why I didn’t get a differnet outcome ( LOL)

        I’ll keep you posted, it won’t be for 48 hours or so til I can get another Internet connection.

        And I also know how to burn an ISO so it’s bootable, what threw me for a loop was I was expecting a 4 Gb file and it came in at 67 Mb…

        Thanks again

        • #3205679

          ..and save to a non-fat32 partition

          by gralfus ·

          In reply to Thanks…

          Since the Knoppix DVD ISO is about 4.3GB, then you’ll need to point your torrent (and torrent temp directory) to save to an NTFS or Linux partition. I kept hitting an error until I realized I was trying to save to a FAT32 partition which has a file size limit of 4GB.

        • #3282981

          thanks for all the help

          by cbalness ·

          In reply to ..and save to a non-fat32 partition

          Thank you everybody for the suggestions.

          Did the BitTorrent thing, file came down fine. I was downloading it originally to an external USB drive that was NTFS. Downloaded it instead to an internal NTFS HD and it saved fine.

          Burned the ISO using IMGBurn, tested it, and everything went as expected.

          I said I was impressed with the Knoppix CD ISO, when I booted the DVD version I was blown away by the large variety of software available.

          Imagine multiple copies of Browsers, Email Clients, media players and not 1 but 2 Office Productivity Suites… the Windows world is MUCH easier, with only 1 choice of afore mentioned apps etc … /sarcasm off

          Cheers

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