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LAN Workgroup Problems

By matt ·
How to implement a functional shared work group for our LAN?

Problems:
1. Workgroup list won't populate or is incomplete.
2. Says Network Resource is unavailable or cites permission problem.
3. Browse Master issues.

Attempted Fixes:
1. Tried to designate a Browse Master and disable reg entry on other systems.
2. Have experimented with using a lmhosts file.

Details:
1. Small business = don't need Active Directory or even WINS server.
2. DNS is handled by ISP.
3. OS's include, Wink2k, 2kServer, XP and 2003.
4. Can usually get to a network resource by typing in its location, ie \\mycomputer\.

Follow Up Questions:
1. Is there a way to concretely set a Browse Master and administer? (GUI, 3rd Party App)
2. Are there other viable alternatives to AD or WINS?

Thanks for your time and help.

Matt

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by CG IT In reply to LAN Workgroup Problems

what you need to do is create a "workgroup" which will resolve most of the issues you cite. Note: default Windows operating system installation is to create a workgroup named workgroup. It is not the same as creating a workgroup in which all computers belong.

In doing this you don't need to use \\computer\user name and password to access resources rather you can create a share [including shared printer] accessible from My Network Places or a mapped drive.

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here is a link on how to setup a small network in Windows XP Home. The same procedures apply to a small network that is not a domain but does have a server. note: there are 8 parts to this. the link is part 1

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813936/

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by matt In reply to LAN Workgroup Problems

Thanks for your input.

A specific workgroup has already been created. My questions and points above were relating to the ailing workgroup.

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by CG IT In reply to LAN Workgroup Problems

If your workgroup is already created and A. all computers are joined to that workgroup, B. All user accounts that will be used to access shared resources are on each computer within the workgroup, C. you didn't remove the everyone group from the shared resources, D. you created shared resources for users;

your problems:
1. workgroup list won't populate should be solved
2. network resources will be available to users on the network
3. Master browser issues should resolve themselves. e.g each computer browser will not say it's the master browser because they belong to different workgroups or domains but reside on the same subnet.

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by hozcanhan In reply to LAN Workgroup Problems

1.First create the workgroups like CG explained to you above . PLUS => Browse Master ( according to your expectations ) = A remote admin system . Install master browser= viewer/controller version to your machine ( app like pc anywhere or anyplace control ) , and install browsed client = server version to your clients . This way you can control the GUI and apps of remote pcs.
2.Enable NETBIOS over TCP/IP under tcp/ip properties advanced tab . At start up do a net command batch to search for computers to see all computers in your neighbourhood list .

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by matt In reply to

Thanks for your help. I sporadically employ VNC remote on certain machines. However, this does not seem to aid in Workgroup resource resolution.

I have done your second suggestion with the exception of the batch file. Please explain the batch file in more detail.

Thanks again

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by matt In reply to LAN Workgroup Problems

Still getting the hang of this forum. Please reference quoted below. Is this software that you mentioned? I need more information on what you detailed in this answer.

The workgroup has been created and in place for quite sometime.

I do have netbios enabled on the NIC's. But could you explain the batch file you mentioned?

Thanks - Matt


"1.First create the workgroups like CG explained to you above . PLUS => Browse Master ( according to your expectations ) = A remote admin system . Install master browser= viewer/controller version to your machine ( app like pc anywhere or anyplace control ) , and install browsed client = server version to your clients . This way you can control the GUI and apps of remote pcs.
2.Enable NETBIOS over TCP/IP under tcp/ip properties advanced tab . At start up do a net command batch to search for computers to see all computers in your neighbourhood list."

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by matt In reply to LAN Workgroup Problems

I am at a loss for this issue. I have tried everything mentioned and more. At best i get only a partial listing of the workgroup machines. I have experimented with lmhosts files. I make sure the NIC's look it up and enable netbios over TCP/IP. This is my lmhosts file syntax: "192.168.0.112 HWLAB #PRE #DOM:host". This should be put in the //system32/drivers/etc folder correct? I deleted the lmhosts.sam file and put the updated lmhosts file in place. I'm not sure if the #DOM does anything, but i have tried it with and without.

Would setting up a WINS server alleviate/circumvent this problem?

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