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Limiting internet bandwidth on wireless network

By gridley ·
We recently installed Road Runner on the home network. Needless to say the kids spend their time doing online games and downloading music(legally) and I have noticed that when they are downloading music my pages seem to load a lot slower. Is there a way to limit the amount of bandwidth they can have ?

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QoS

by NDS84 In reply to Limiting internet bandwid ...

I am assumeing you have a router, and in that case you can likely set up QoS (Quality of Service) controls. To what degree depends alot on the router.

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QOS

by Stephen.Dubos In reply to QoS

I doubt many "home" routers would have that kind of ability

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agreed

by NDS84 In reply to QOS

agreed, however with 3rd party firmware it is possible (DDWRT firmware )

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Few ways to deal with this

by georgeou In reply to Limiting internet bandwid ...

The ideal way to deal with this is to use router that has prioritization AKA QoS. There are very expensive Cisco routers that can do this or you need to build an IPCop box. http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/Ou/?p=360. That will allow you to prioritize in the following order.

VoIP traffic
Gaming traffic
HTTP, FTP and DNS traffic
Everything else including BitTorrent

Someone else mentioned the custom firmwares for the Linksys WRT54G and that should help.

If you want immediate relief, go to your son's machine and put in a global maxiumum upload rate limit on his BitTorrent client. For example if you have uTorrent and your peak upstream is 384 kbps or 48 kbytes/sec. You want to set the upstream to a maximum of 25 kbps if you don't want the upstream to get jammed. If your max download speed is 1.5 mbps which is about 194 kbytes/sec, you want the maximum download speed set to around 100 kbytes/sec.

If there are two computers downloading at the same time, you'll need to slash the peak of each computer in half. But if you had bandwidth prioritization on your router, you don't have to worry about the peak upload cap but you still need to set the download limit on your BitTorrent clients. QoS only controls the upstream, not the downstream.

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a no time would I want to be a supplier in bit-torrent

by coffee junky In reply to Few ways to deal with thi ...

a no time would I want to be a supplier in bit-torrent, and would zero out any upload.

if the distributor needs my help in getting his files out - maybe he needs akamai like services. Most parents no problem in comprehending - their kids probably didn't understand the downside of saying yes, and besides free service your providing.

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Why be a selfish leach? It's only fair to upload a little bit.

by georgeou In reply to a no time would I want to ...

Many Linux distros will offer an FTP and a BitTorrent version, take a wild guess which one is faster? BitTorrent allows you to scale indefinitely because it amplifies with the number of users while FTP limits you to whatever bandwidth you have. If everyone turned off uploading like you, how well would BitTorrent work? How do you expect those Linux distro shops and other smaller organizations to pay for Akamai?

Heck, even the commercial download places make you wait in line or make you pay money for higher download speeds. I would much rather download game demos and videos using BitTorrent with no wait and at higher speeds for the SMALL price of offering up a little upload bandwidth. You're not giving away upload bandwidth when you're taking TEN times more back in return.

If you don't like providing upload bandwidth then there is a very simple solution; don't use BitTorrent. If you want to freeload off of BitTorrent and be a leach, then at least admit you're a leach and don't act like you're somehow the victim of resource theft.

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you have to be kidding on this response - major commercial firms

by coffee junky In reply to Why be a selfish leach? ...

several tv channel networks are us it, fox uses akamai, a few of the music and print publishing houses, and corporate web commercial sites use it to speed mashups, and flash ad delivery - at your expense - how do you propose to distingush the difference ?

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Major commercial firms are also using BitTorrent

by georgeou In reply to you have to be kidding on ...

Hey, I will not argue with you that Akamai is a much nicer way to deliver content. The problem is that it COSTS MONEY. YouTube for example spends MILLIONS of dollars a day on bandwidth, do you think everyone has that kind of VC money floating around?

My point is that BitTorrent is the poor man's Akamai. It doesn't work as well as Akamai but it is a FREE way to deliver content to an unlimited number of people. No one forces to use it so you should use Akamai whenever possible or whenever you can afford to use it. All I'm saying is that if you want to use BitTorrent, then don't be a leach on the system. If you don't like providing upload bandwidth, don't use BitTorrent. It's as simple as that.

Corporate websites don't need BitTorrent since they're only delivering webpages. No one ever suggested that they switch to BitTorrent. However, Valve games uses BitTorrent to deliver software to us and I don't mind at all since they constantly provide free upgrades for years. I don't mind at all because I know they can't provide the free updates if they had to pay millions of dollars in bandwidth.

Even Microsoft started charging for those Office beta downloads because the bandwidth was murdering them. There are plenty of times I would prefer using the BitTorrent protocol to download things from Microsoft than the current method if they only allowed it. BitTorrent acts like the poor man's caching system. The fact of the matter is, the consumers always end up paying for the service in the end one way or another. Any technology that allows the vendors to save money means it's cheaper for the end user.

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