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    Long boot time on a fresh build, Ram problem?

    by tatune ·

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    Just built my first PC.
    R5 3600
    RX 5600 XT
    1tb intel m.2 drive
    XPG GAMMIX D30 Desktop Memory: 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL16 Black
    Asrock B450M Pro4

    My boot times are about 15 seconds pre “asrock” logo… Till then I get no input, but once the mobo logo is up it’s a less than 10 second boot, so windows is coming up nice and quick off that M.2 drive… I think it’s a bios setting of some sort, IDK. I changed ram speed/voltage in bios to 3200 and the 1.35 set automatically. I also have found out that my default bios is 4.30 and the most up to date is one newer which is 4.60. I don’t know that I need to update it, and would be nervous to do so. I ran two full passes of memtest86 and passed flawlessly (I know there is debate about running memtest86 for 86 days or whatever, people say one pass, people say 10, people say 24 hours, IDK I did two passes and felt confident.) Also ran an SSD bench and it was 1800-1950 so that is running well. When I booted initially I installed MOBO drivers and GPU drivers.

    So two questions here.
    1. These ram sticks are 16-20-20, I’ve read some places that Ryzen doesn’t like such loose timings? Do I need a different set of ram? I know about QVL (not till after putting it all together). I need help knowing if I need to change ram sticks, if I do, I need to know 100% what sticks will fix this problem. If it’s not the ram sticks, then-> (Question below)
    2. Why do I have a 30 second boot on a brand new build with components that shouldn’t take that long to boot?

    It really seems like there is a ram issue, I’ve heard ryzen is picky, but I’m having problems finding concrete evidence of it. I need a smoking gun to justify replacing the ram before my replacement/refund date with newegg runs out. This build more than capped out my ‘FunFund’ and if I need to upgrade my ram to make it work correctly I’ll do it, but I need to be able to justify it.

    Thanks in advance, guys.

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    • #2419080

      My thoughts

      by bob.b ·

      In reply to Long boot time on a fresh build, Ram problem?

      Update the bios to the latest.

      Go through each setting.
      Every bios is different so look for things like delay this or long/extended test.

      Every ssd is different but I wonder about the speed you see.
      Pci-e gen3 is about 1000MB/s per lane since you have 4 lanes your speed looks low.
      I have gen3x2 and see more speed than you get.

      Run this and post a link to the results.
      https://www.ccleaner.com/docs/speccy/using-speccy/publishing-a-speccy-profile-to-the-web

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      Wait, your PC boots in 30 seconds?

      by rproffitt ·

      In reply to Long boot time on a fresh build, Ram problem?

      That’s fantastic. Would not fix this.

      There are many long discussions about BIOS and boot time reduction. I can’t possibly duplicate that here but you would research that and see if the BIOS allows fast booting and disabling scans for other bootable media. For example, the process to check for a bootable USB stick or DVD is many many seconds long.

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