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When connected to the internet I have full access for a seemingly random amount of time. Sometimes I can go days, other times only a few minutes. Usually it is more like 30 minutes.

When the problem happens I cannot read email or browse the internet. I can still ping and access network computers. The only way to regain access appears to be a reboot.

I have wireless broadband.
All computers are running Windows 2000 SP 4.
I have an SMC Barricade 7004BR router and an Asante FriendlyNET switch.
All computers are protected by up to date firewalls (Sygate) and
antivirus (Panda).

The problem occurs when I directly connect to the broadband modem as well.

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by lmon

Do you have any bridges on your lan connections if so try removing them.

Also check with your modem and router's manufacturer to see if this is a known issues they may have a firmware upgrade that will fix the problem.

by dragon emperor

The problem happens when I connect directly, so it is not the router (though unlike Linksys, this is not a known problem for SMC routers).
My network topology is all machines connect to the switch, which connects to the router, which connects to the wireless modem. Connecting a system directly to the modem does not help.

by cg it

I would venture it's your router that is causing the dropped connection. As to why, could be a # of issues. WAG, it is a firmware bug.

I had a SMC 7004 ABR router a couple of years back. Dumped it as it seemed to just be flakey. Went with a Linksys.

by shiny_topadm

I agree with the other posters that a router problem is the most likely. When you say a reboot fixes it, is that a reboot of the router? I too have seen somewhat "flakey" versions of this product. Current firmware is version 1.93 and is available for download from www.smc.com. You can check yours by logging in to the router, on the 'tools' page there is "Information" which should list the current version number. HTH,

---Will

by dragon emperor

The problem happens when I connect directly, so it is not the router. And it is a reboot of the computers that fixes the problem. The router also has the newest firmware and I have not had problems with it in the long time I have had it (I telecommute over a VPN, use an internet phone and play lots of multiplayer games, so it gets used alot). Only with my newest ISP has there been problems, and they claim they don't know what is wrong.

by lmayeda

Can I assume that when YOU cannot browse the internet, the same goes for the other PCs on the network? When this happens can you ping an IP address outside of the network (ie your ISP?). Could it be a problem with the IP address of your DNS server (is it set to detect automatically or do you specify one or more DNS IP addresses)? Depending on your ability to ping outside the network when your brower "goes down" you may want to try a different DNS server. If you and the rest of the LAN cannot ping out, then it sounds like either your router is flakey or your ISP is flakey.

by dragon emperor

Yes, if I have multiple machines connected at a time and the connection goes out it is for them all. I can ping the internet. Since the ISP has been useless in solving the problem I am running out of troubleshooting options.

by shmaltz

A reboot of what? The switch? The modem/router?
You don't mention what type of connection you have, xDSL? Cable? T-1?
I have seen this happen when using xDSL, that uses PPPoA (PPP over ATM, not to be confused with PPPoE), or EoA (Ethernet over ATM). I don't know if a T-1 that uses any of the above (PPPoA, or EoA) has the same problem. I don't know exactly what the problem is, but every so often the PPP will get corrupted and the only option is a reboot of the PPP client device. But I'm not sure why it happens on EoA.
In most case if this is the problem you only have 2 options:
1. Work with your ISP to correct this, make them aware of this problem, and see if they are interested in fixing it. If not you will be forced to use option 2
2. Change ISP.
However I did see that sometimes in the case of xDSL changing the Modem/Router to another brand helped (BestTel looks to be the best).

by dragon emperor

It is a reboot of the computers. My router and switch have not required reboots yet (though I have tried in my troubleshooting).
I have a 512Kbps (both directions) wireless internet connection (usually runs closer to 650 both ways).
Unfortunately changing ISP isn't an option. I came to them from the only other broadband here (and my old ISP had poor line quality and consistently lower than paid for speeds).
They have already changed the wireless modem (which fixed their initial speed problem).

by georgevlob

If you can ping computers on the internet, but cannot surf the web or get email, then your problem is the DNS. If you are getting the DNS servers from you ISP, try to entering them manually in the TCP/IP options menue. If that doesn't work, try to use someone elses DNS servers.

You can check if it DNS by typing "nslookup www.google.com" or some other site. If you get "... can't find server: Non-exixtent domain", then type in "nslookup" and enter. At the > prompt, type "server 205.152.0.5" and enter (this will make bellsouth's name server as the active name server or use any DNS server you may know about). Then type in "www.google.com" and enter. If you get an IP address, then you know your problem is the DNS server. Please make sure you enter the commands above without the ".

Hope this helps.

by dragon emperor

1 system has gigabit ethernet, the others 100Mbps.
Disabling the antivirus and firewall does not help.
Both ping and nslookup work fine.
tracert never works, but it gets as far as it always does (can't make it past their 1st router).

by dragon emperor

Windows 95b (I have a multiboot system that can go into several systems) seems unaffected by the problem, while all of my Windows 2000 machines are affected.

by mobiletech4u

my question to you is how many pc's are connected to your router and you say you have a switch so you must have quite a few computers connected have you tried checking the event viewer it is a tool for troubleshooting also have you installed performance monitor you can use it for a varitey of reasons.
hope this helps

by mobiletech4u

after reading your comments are you using a cross over cable with the switch or just a patch cable with a switch a cross over cable is needed.

by dragon emperor

I only have a handful of computers on my LAN.
I am using a crossover cable.
And the problem happens when I take the systems off of the LAN and just connect directly to the modem.

by shmaltz

Here is what I gather the facts are:
1. Win2k machines
2. Win9x machines don't have this problem (although I don't know how you tested this since it happens randomly, it could just be that the 9x machine wasn't in the mood of making trouble).
3. When you reboot the OS (win2k) that machine doesn't have the problem anymore.
4. The router doesn't have to be rebooted for the computers to clean up the problem, just the computers have to be rebooted.
5. The modem is not the problem, also because a reboot from just the computer will help, without rebooting the router/switch/modem.
Here is the troubleshooting technique you should use:
Can you use the network locally?
If not then maybe the switch is the problem. You will ask then why don't you have to restart the switch? The answer to this is; if the switch is making trouble it can just corrupt the ARP table for the clients but the switch works fine, when you reboot the client the ARP table gets rebuild. How can you verify this? at a command prompt type:
arp -a
if anything is listed then type:
arp -d *
now test it, if the problem is gone then the problem is an ARP problem, which in most cases means that something is wrong with the Switch. The fact that ICMP (PING) works is no surprise to me, since I've seen before that a ping will work even with a corrupted ARP table.
Continued....

by shmaltz

....Continued

If you can connect to the clients locally:
Then connect a computer that has this problem directly to the router and see if you still have this problem. Again first eliminate ARP problems following the instructions above. If deleting the ARP cache did not help then it is time to fire up route.
At a command prompt type:
route print
if you see any other gateways then the one you think should be there, then your problem is that you have more than one default gateway. The following gateways are normal for every machine (this is assuming a machine with an IP address of 192.168.1.100, netmask of 255.255.255.0, and default gateway of 192.168.1.1):
192.168.1.1
127.0.0.1
192.168.1.100
if your machine lists any other IP Address in the gateway column then delete that entry using:
rotue delete followed by the entry.
then try your connection again.
Hope this helps. If you need more help drop me an email.

by dragon emperor

When the problem is occuring I cannot access LAN Web Servers with IE, but can access the the computers normally.
The problem occurs when connected directly.
How I tested Win9x is because if several machines are started at the same time and one starts experiencing the problem the others will be to.
Clearing the ARP table did not help.
There were no suspect routes.

by gooser12

I have a wireless network at home that used to periodically lose all connectivety to the internet but it still seemed to be all connected up. I found a few things:

1) that your wireless security settings may be affecting the connection. You may also want to check that you don't accidentaly have another wireless profile set up that is overriding the connection.

2) Now I know that it also happens when you connect directly, I found that I had a wireless connector that was crapping out and seemed to take the whole thing offline after a while - had to reset the box.
-Is there one specific machine that seems to go out on your network first all the time?

3) You may also want to try reseting the box and changing the name and specifics to the connection.

4) Does re-making a connection ever link everything back up

by dragon emperor

I can ping any pingable address when the problem is occuring with the size set to 1472, so from that article it would not appear to be a black hole (though it was a very interesting set of articles).

by shmaltz

Since you say that logging off and then on fixes the problem. I think the problem might be a spyware or adware that is creating this problem. Since in most case these programs only run in the logged on user context, when you log off these programs are terminated. Download spy bot search & destroy, Ad-Aware and the like and scan you computer. Also scan your computer against viruses. You can use housecall.antivirus.com to scan your computer for free.

by dragon emperor

I have Webroot Spy Sweeper running all the time and periodically scan with Search & Destroy. I have also scanned with TrojanHunter and Panda Antivirus. My systems appear clean. Also my firewall does not show any suspicious activity.

by jb_222

I experience the same exact problem - direct connection to cable modem (no router). Windows 98se. I'm convinced it is a registry problem caused by spyware/virus.

My experience is not extensive enough to attempt to fix the registry manually.

I continue to experience the problem as described and strive to fix the registry with some methods.

by dragon emperor

I have tried a large number of spyware detectors. I also have an uptodate Antivirus program and a firewall that informs me of any communications going in or out. I have even tried trojan scanners. Nothing gave any indication of infection.

I also believe it is some setting that is causing it. The funny thing is that it started after I switched providers.

by puterg33k

I'de have to agree with the one whom previously said the arp cache was bad, however you said you checked that. The only other option for you at this point is check fourms for that product for this problem being your switch. I had the same problem with my linksys, so I went to there website and "flashed" the product. Try that with SMC and maybe try another switch/router combo.

by dragon emperor

As I said, the problem happens when directly connected to the wireless modem. I have tried direct connect from multiple computers (which also have different Ethernet cards) and no luck. I know that Linksys is know for a similar problem (at work we have a computer that suffered from it). None of my equipment has such a known issue. My router is also up to date.

by jjgonzal

Telecoms do not provide static ip`s for customers using broadband connections (PPPoA)over ATM networks.Ips` are assigned dynamically.
As a telecom insider,I know that the situation you mention is very prevalent.I would venture to say: If broadband (DSL,Cable etc.) connections were stable and drop free, they would be a very economical alternative to leased lines w/static IPs. I have DSL 768 using a 2Wire modem. Before this I had constant problems just like the ones you are having.With this unit,I am able to perform varied diagnostics.I wind up doing a re-sync which of course leaves me with a different IP.I have Win 98, Win 2000 pro and XP pro boxes and all are affected..............
I have found that all the problems are ISP/ATM related (gremlins);it would seem that this makes setting up and maintaining cheap VPN`s too much of a hassle and not an alternative to static ip leased internet lines.

by dragon emperor

I suspected the problem was caused by my ISP (since I did not have it with my old broadband (DSL with a static IP)), but there must be a solution. Logging out and logging back in, or rebooting, fixes it. So somthing must be happening to the system that makes the problem occur, and thus can be fixed. I just don't know what it is. Are you saying that with a static address these problems don't occur?

by acstech01

Attempt to connect directly to your broadband connection
without the router, switch, firewalls, or antivirus... nothing but
an ethernet connection to your broadband modem.

If it works, then slowly add things, one by one. First the router,
then the switch, then the firewalls - one by one, then the
antivirus application. When it stops working after one of them,
you'll know which is causing the problem - if it's a problem with
one of them.

by dragon emperor

The problem occurs even when directly connected, and I have tried several different computers doing so. I have also tried with my security applications turned off.

by acstech01

If several computers are experiencing the problem, perhaps it's
an issue at your ISP. Have you contacted them?

You might also try a friend's Mac, Linux, or Win95 machine.
Perhaps it's a problem with your specific SP of 2000, or maybe
one of Microsoft's little "security fixes."

by dragon emperor

The problem started with changing my ISP, so I assume it is the source of the problem. Windows 95 does not appear to experience it (but I have not left any 95 machine run for much time, and they have different TCP stacks so it would not be surprising if whatever is happening doesn't affect them in the same way). I have not tried Mac or Linux, but presumably with different stacks they would be affected the same way.

My ISP has been unhelpful. I suspected a patch, but have no way of knowing. Reinstalling the system is not an option.

by tg4

This is not an answer, but a comment: I have the SAME EXACT problem, and I'm so glad that I have found someone else with it! :) My specs are slightly different however, which makes me believe that it is probably a problem with the OS and most likely a security patch that microsoft has released lately...? (Or worse, maybe a fluky conflict with one of our drivers and a patch).

I am using XP Pro SP2, and have updated my PC with all available security patches from Microsoft (possible problem).

I took my router out of the equation and have my PC connected directly to my Cable Modem. My ISP is Time Warner Cable (in California) -- and have had them visit 3 times (all is good from their end they continually claim). I am on my 3rd network card (and have ruled out that it is a network card problem.) I lose internet connection after about 30 minutes (althought it varies) and must reboot my PC (not cable modem) to fix this problem. When I lose the connection, I still have an ip address from my ISP on my PC. I can renew and release this IP address with no problem (with browsing capabilities gone) but do not regain browsing capabilities. Have tried multiple browsers.

I'm testing with another computer now, to see if I have the same problem with another XP Pro computer. All signs have been good so far (so it appears like it might be my 1 PC -- I'll give an update.) I have made sure my PC is clean (with NAV Pro 2003 and Ad-Aware Spyware Cleaning Software.) I have no firewall software or hardware running...

I don't mean to add confusion to original post, but it seems like we have the same problem. It also seems like it's a fairly unique problem (as I haven't had much luck finding any other info on it.) At the least: Any thoughts on where we could find more info on a problem like this?

Thanks very much!

by tg4

The problem seems to only exist with 1 specific computer (and not the current XP Pro machine I'm using now), which is making me believe that it's a problem with the specific computer and not any other external networking hardware (like the cable modem, which was the only question mark I had left...) I'm going to switch back to my problematc PC and see if I can fix the problem when it arises by logging out/in of the OS... I haven't tried that yet (and I noticed that it works for Dragon Emporer.)

by tg4

I hate to write this too permaturally, but I re-installed tcp/ip on my current internet connection, and things have been running more smoothly than they have since I first ran into this problem. (I was so convinced that it was a cable modem or ISP problem that I didn't try this as soon as I should have.) Things seem good -- I'll post back if I have any trouble at all. Anyway, here's what I did:

1. Go to properties of current network connection (probably named "local area connection" or something like that.)
2. Uncheck Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) -- Win 2k and above won't actually let you "uninstall" this.
3. Click "ok" and then reboot.
4. Go back to properties and recheck TCP/IP, and see what happens...

Hopefully good things!

by tg4

I jynxed myself... I'm still fuggered, although it waited longer than usual before disconnecting. Here's more:

1. I couldn't solve my problem by loging out/in. I had to reboot my PC.
2. Once I lost my browser connection, I could not ping any internet websites (yahoo.com). I could relase ip address from my cable modem (public dynamic address -- I'm plugged directly into cable modem), and then could renew the connection (and get the same ip again), but I still could not ping anything and could not view any websites.

#2 above makes me think that it's a cable modem problem (regardless that Time Warner says everything's fine.) But... I tested my other pc against this cable modem and it seemed to work without problems... (I tested it for an amount of time where it should have definitely failed if it was going to.) When the connection is "lost", my PC can apparently communicate with the Cable Modem because I can release and renew my ip, but it still can't get any traffic after that... Is it really communicating? Are there any other thoughts out there? Any other software that I can try to re-install or fix? (Remember this is my third NIC card that I took from my server, where it has been working flawlessly for over a year...) I've checked my routing table ("route print") via a post above and that looks ok... What else can I check?

Thanks...

-Frustrated

by dragon emperor

This sounds like one of the many simular problems that I have found on different forums across the net.

Turn on the Icon for your network, then after the problem occurs right click on it and go to status. That should show you if anything is being sent.

Unfortunately each problem that I have run across has been fairly unique and have remained unsolved (except for finding a known problem with Linksys routers that causes a similar problem).

Since your problem takes down your whole internet it is more typical, but not necessarily easier to fix.

by dragon emperor

That isn't really an option. I am in a small town and the only other broadband oversold their bandwidth and router capabilities (and said they don't have any immediate plans to fix the situation). Satellite has too high of latency to be an option. So I am stuck unless I can find something to fix on my side.

by dragon emperor

Neither Adaware or VX2Finder found anything. I have also scanned with TrojanHunter, Spy Sweeper, Search & Destroy and Panda Antivirus. My system appears to be clean. And my Firewall (Sygate) does not show any suspicious processes accessing the network.

by bytesofchips

I had the same problem with my DSL modem. I spent weeks trying to figure it out. They sent tech. out but could find nothing wrong. They replaced my modem twice. Turned out that it was a bad modem.

by dragon emperor

The ISP will not replace the modem again unless I find a documented instance on the internet of it causing this problem.

by derekjmcm

I don't know if you have checked this but, when you loose connectivity, have you checked you're IP address (IPconfig /all). The reason I ask is that you are running a sygate firewall and it may be a conflict between that firewall and something within the router. My initial thought was that you had NAT/Firewall enabled on the router and that was causing the problem. It may also be of some help to put 2 different DNS server addresses in the SMC as this may eliminate the possibility of this being the problem. Also check that the firewall on the barricade is not enabled, as it appears that although you can still ping, it is the high end stuff that's causing issues.

by dragon emperor

I do not totally lose connectivity. Also, it happens when my firewall (and other protective application) are turned off. The firewall on the barricade would block the communications all the time if that was it, but my main system is a DMZ so even then should have full access.

by sgt_shultz

if you suspect your router and i would, put it on a ups. put it on a battery for a while and see if that affects things. also comb thru configuration see if you have a 'ppp autoconnect' option. if you do, enable it. call you isp about this and ask if they have more reliable router. just see what they say you don't have to do anything.
my intermittant disconnects were something the boss picked on me about for weeks. we fixed ours by resetting the router not rebooting so maybe not your issue. anyhow, after weeks of asking around, nobody gave me any usefull information except finally phone company dsl router guys. try to get 2nd level support there even if didn't buy router from them. they suggested autoconnect and battery and autoconnect helped some and battery finally fixed it. it is always fixable. bull crap notwithstanding

by dragon emperor

The problem happens when direct connected also, so it is not my router.
Supposedly my problem has been escalated to the higher level techs, but like the other broadband place in this small town they do not seem very interested in keeping customers happy.
All of my network equipment and my main computers are all on UPS systems.
Resetting the router and/or modem is ineffective once the problem has happened.

by hazzard_005

You may want to give this a try.

Try going into your properties page of your network adapter and setting all your machines to connect at the same speed. Try having all the computers connect at 10mbps/half duplex. It may be that your ISP cannot autodetect your connection speed. I have run into this a couple of times on my network where a machine will run fine and connect most of the time but on occasion the auto detect does not negotiate properly. When this happens I am able to ping the server but cannot authenticate to it. Changing the network card to 10mbps/half duplex fixes the problem without a restart. Just something to try with your fingers crossed. :)

Hope this turns out to be to be helpful.

by dragon emperor

An interesting idea. However my router is always at 10Mbps. Also the problem occurs only machines after they have already had access for a while, so it did negotiate the speed.

Still, I tried this and it did nothing to fix the problem.

by zaferus

I saw a similar issue once, no matter what was hooked up (PC or Linksys router) it would "freeze" up at seemingly random times.

I put a SonicWALL spare I had in there, and when Internet access went down I found I was able to still log into it - and the logs reported a massive DDOS attack against the network. It turned out the little Linksys wasn't able to handle the malformed packetstorm and just froze up, as did any PC plugged into it.

In the end the client bought a SonicWALL and I set it up in stealth mode (any probe to it would timeout).

They still had a loss of Internet when the attack came in but when it was done Internet came back without a reboot. After a few weeks (since it was in Stealth) the attacker gave up, probably thinking they changed their WAN IP address.

Zaf

by dragon emperor

The problem happens when I am connected directly to. And I have checked the firewall for attacks. Most of the time there has been no activity prior to losing those abilities. After the problem happens no packets are outgoing or incoming (unless I am running one of the apps that continues to function).

by charliep

Not so much an answer as a thought:

During the problem you can ping through,
have you ever checked Ping Timings and TraceRt
to known Internet IP's to see if your ISP
is rerouting you through an alternate server or setting?

Just curious if timings and routing are same
during good time vs bad time.

by zaferus

If you've changed the modem, changed the connection (PC and router), changed the Ethernet cable and no significant activity preceeds a failure - then only two things come to mind:

1. Environment - maybe plug the modem/router/PC into a small UPS. Also double check that your Ethernet cabling doesn't run across any large power sources.

2. Upstream problem - if there are two connections, and you've thoroughly troubleshot one side... maybe the problem lies in the connection they have you plugged into somewhere between your junction box and their modems on the other side. While it may be difficult for an ISP who "doesn't care" to check their own equipment - if you've eliminated everything else as Holmes would say: "the only remaining conclusion - however improbable, must be correct"

by dragon emperor

The whole network is on several UPS. I have tried several computers and only 1's cable goes across a power source (the UPS).

The ISP still has not responded about the problem. With only 1 local competitor that provides worse service they probably see little need.

by acstech01

If this happens when you're directly connecting and with
multiple computers, then I'm beginning to wonder if it's not an
incorrectible problem for you and instead a major problem at
your Broadband ISP.

Try complaining to the Better Business Bureau (http://
www.bbb.org) about the problems and explain that they've been
very unhelpful and that you've tried to correct it and failed. Since
it happens when you're direct connected, you don't need to
mention your routers or other equipment - they'll probably just
say they're unsupported.

I've found the BBB to be very helpful with unhelpful companies.

by dragon emperor

Unfortunately I have complained to the Better Business Bureau before about companies and have seen no results. Customer Service definately seems to be at a low point these days.

I have feared for a while it may not be solveable, but until a new ISP is available locally (or I move) there is little that can be done.

by sgt_shultz

fascinating. i do not have time to read thoroughly. just 2 cents worth.
so you say when this happens, resetting the router does not bring you back. weird
so you say when this happens, booting into win95b does bring you back.
if rebooting win2k brings you back then wonder if you set static ip address on box for test would problem go away...
how do you get back when this happens. do you just have to wait? or do you reboot to get back
sure sounds like os vs wireless problem.
do you have latest greatest updates on your wireless access point? can you try another (brand) of wireless access point?]
when you go down on win2k box, can you bring it back with ipcconfig /release then /renew?
when it goes down can you ping your isp's dns servers?
i think router is funky and due to changes in your phone companys switch programming router is losing dns maybe and not getting it back. see if router can be updated. call your phone company and ask for broadband router suppport.

by dragon emperor

It happens on both systems with static and dynamic LAN addresses.
I generally now logout and log back in to fix the problem, though on occassion it still requires a reboot.
My ISP is uninterested in helping further. I will definately look at other ISPs if they ever become available.

by rcom

To test and troubleshoot faulty connections go to

http://www.dslreports.com/tools

To eliminate possible problems from files on your system do the following steps.

Run Explorer.exe make sure hidden and system files can be viewed.

From the tools menu select folder options, then view then put a check next to:

Display contents of system folders
Show hidden files and folders.

Remove the check from:
Hide extensions of known types
Hide protected operating system files.

Select yes when prompted.

Now from the left pane, navigate to C:\Documents and Settings\YourUsername Folder.

Open the Cookies folder and delete all.

While still in the Documents and Settings folder Open:
Local Settings\Temp\ delete all tmp files. Then highlight, cut and paste everything else to a new location. Don't delete because these are your uninstall files and folders.

Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5 and delete everything including then delete the Content.IE5 folder.

From device manager uninstall the network and Dialup Adapters.

Don't reboot yet!

From add remove programs uninstall all networking features.

by tphamiltonz

Have you tried changing the location of your modem? If the modem is placed to close to the monitor it can cause interference. Going out on a limb.

by homerjsimpson

Hey, I have the same problem with almost the same setup. I have 3 PC's connected to a linksys router. 2 are hardwired Windows2000 machines and 1 is a wireless WindowsXP laptop. What I see is as long as the PC's are on and remain IDLE for X period of length, they lose all internet capability. I haven't even begun to investigate the problem, but my fix is to reboot the modem only. All PC's are affected and cannot connect. The really only thing I notice is, if one of the Win2k machines are on indefinitely, everything is okay, but once my wireless laptop sits too long, everything gets hosed....Sorry I've given nothing to help the cause, but I will start to look at the next time it happens and post back if I can find anything....

by charliep

Reference Answer 25:

I was hoping to see during a direct connection
to the provider when entered the query. Sorry
I didn't word well.

You have changed the status to answered, what was
the final solution you adopted? (You rejected all
answers from what I see)

Anyway, I had to deal with an ISP who had some
very interesting settings in his Broadband setup.
The first set in the solution was to determine
which of his servers was causing the problem.
The Ping and Tracert together helped identify
a problem on their end. Of course, they will never
admit it, however, by the end of the testing
a report sent to my ISP resulted in a magical fix
about 3 days later.

Best of Luck,
CharlieP

by dragon emperor

I have had them out and they have seen the problem. They just don't seem interested in solving it. If I can find out what is being corrupt I should be able to find how to solve it, but as yet I have found nothing.

by rcom

Here's what I think may be your problem.

The "DNS Client" which caches both positive and negative connects may be the problem. Not the Temporary Internet Cache but DNS. If your ISP is too congested or overloaded it may take too long to respond to your request at times and the negative DNS is then recorded. After that until the cache expires it would stop the connection untill the cache is cleared. More attempts to make the connection will only lengthen the time it would take for the problem to stop.

The DNS address would be one of the 2 provided by your ISP. Try switching them around, make the primary the secondary and see if there's a difference. With some ISP's this may not work.

Rebooting or logging off and back on stops the problem since the DNS cache is cleared.

You can disable the negative part of the DNS caching with a registry edit.

Remember to back up the registry before making changes.

Navigate to the following:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Dnscache\Parameters]

Highlight the Parameters folder then move over to the right pane and right click. Select "NEW" and choose "DWORD" add each of the 3 keys listed below. Note all three should be set to a value of zero.

NegativeCacheTime
NetFailureCacheTime
NegativeSOACacheTime

To go back to your original settings restore the backup of the registry.

Even though it doesn't seem to be a problem with the router you can update the firmware. Here is the site to do that at.

http://tinyurl.com/6899o

Good luck.

by dragon emperor

I recently had to upgrade my Internet Explorers because a website I use alot made a change that seems to interfere with 5.5. I have not had the problem since. I am leaving the question open for now and if the problem rears its head again I will try the options I have not yet responded to.

by acstech01

>Unfortunately I have complained to the Better Business Bureau
>before about companies and have seen no results. Customer
>Service definately seems to be at a low point these days.

If any of several different computers are plugged in without the
router or any switches or firewall software, then I don't think the
problem would be fixable for you.

There's no way to tell whether the BBB can solve your complaint
without trying, and that seems to be the only thing left to do. It
works for some companies and others don't care... I've found
that ISPs usually od care.

by dragon emperor

My unplanned upgrade of Internet Explorer must have changed whatever system component was causing the problem. Systems where I have upgraded no longer exhibit the problem behavior. Very surprising.

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