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Losing wireless/wired Windows XP network

By rgrowcock ·
I have a small local network setup at home using XP Pro. One Dell desktop wired, one Dell Laptop wireless. I keep losing network connectivity and can't figure out why. Nothing has changed.

The network will work fine for a long time, then, boom, I lose it. When I lose my connectivity, I also lose a networked printer. My printer is a HP 4 with a jetdirect card and its own IP address. (192.168.1.50)

There seems to be no rhyme or reasoning to losing my connections. The main desktop stays on most of the time and the printer is turned on when needed. Laptop comes and goes as needed. I know that I a connection on the laptop, because I can surf the Internet and ping all of the hosts. I do have a firewall, but it is configured to allow printing and access to local network.

If the printer didn't work at all, I would think it could be the firewall. But, at times, I am able to print. This just seems to be hit or miss and it is frustrating not only to me, but to my wife as well. She tries to print off of the laptop and can't.

The wireless connection is not bridged.

I re-ran the XP Network disk on both computers and everything works fine now. But why should I have had to do it again? This is what I can't figure out.

After rebooting Main, wired, computer, connection is lost again. After running the network disk, worked fine. I am seeing a pattern, if I turn all systems off, I lose everything.

Anyone have an idea? Or is this just a Microsoft thing?

One other issue, is there a way to turn Appletalk on in XP? I have a iMac that I would like to network too and can't get it to work either. Thanks!

I am setting the point level high, hoping to get a lot of answers.

Roger

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by sgt_shultz In reply to Losing wireless/wired Win ...

wow. for that detailed post and the whopping points, you deserve a real helpful answer. sorry that all i can offer this morning is:
this is not a Microsoft thing, afaik
i do not get the picture of exactly how things are configured (wired together) so more details on that might help...
bet this is dhcp problem. bet if you set all pc's to static addresses you would maybe fix it. the tricky part is getting the gateway and the dns settings correct. here is what i would do:
i have this little saying 'fall back to a working condition'. so let's get it working. with your xp network disk. then, go to each pc and type Start/Run/command <enter> then at command prompt type ipconfig <enter>
write down everything. use those numbers and change from dhcp to static. bet printing and LAN works now and stays up. internet might not work. that would be dns settings problem.
ok. so let's say, you say, fine but i forgot to tell you, i have them all on static addresses already. so then all i have to offer is, get latest xp critical updates and service packs on. check event log, post any relevant looking error numbers with source.
as far as the iMac, am not a Mac person but think iMac is osX, no? that supports SMB protocol which is what pc speaks (sorry, no appletalk/localtalk anymore, asaik) there are links to step by step instructions on apple website. not very hard, i've only done it once over phone some time ago and can't remember. was involved but not difficult. post any problems?

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by LMon In reply to Losing wireless/wired Win ...

What kind or router do you have I know the Linksys BEFW11S4 has a firmware and hangs up the connection. Seems from what you are explaining it could be firmware issue. I would check on the internet to see if they have an updated firware version for your router and update it. It might solve your problem.

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by rgrowcock In reply to

It is a Linksys BEFW11S4 ver2, but I have already checked the firmware and it is up-to-date.

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by Tech_Guy1 In reply to Losing wireless/wired Win ...

When reviewing your problem I noticed you were talking about an XP Network disk.
When you have a home network using the wizard, you need to make sure that the pc you created the disk on is running. If all pc's are off this one must be started first. This pc usually has a static ip where the others are dynamic. This one must be started first because it hands out the ip adresses to all the other pcs that are connected to the network. This was setup when you created the disk.
If not, then you will get a different ip address on the computer you started (This is referred to Automatic IP Adressing. If you have a network card set to dynamic and it cannot find a server that will give it an ip, it will auto set it, but it will never be in the correct ip, and will not have any way to communicate with the other pcs.)

Just make sure the computer you created the disk from is turned on first.

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by rgrowcock In reply to

Thanks for the thoughts, but my router is the DHCP. I have also set everything to static as suggested above. Still No Joy. I shut off the main computer, connectivity is broken when it is turned back on. It still prints, but the Laptop cannot.

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by Tech_Guy1 In reply to Losing wireless/wired Win ...

Things to try.
Take a look at this article http://www.networknewz.com/2003/0904.html

Make sure that when you used the network setup wizard, the Internet Connection Sharing is disabled on all computers. Refer to the link above.

Also disable any firewalls you have enabled on the advanced tab in the network adapter.

At a command prompt type: ipconfig /all
on each machine. It should list the dhcp server it has recieved the IP. Make sure they all come from the router, gateway is the same, ipaddresses match according to the subnet, etc.

Check your event logs for any errors. I usually audit the system and application event log for configuration problems and the security log for some connectivity issues. If you find an event that states error and you are unsure what it is used for, you can goto www.eventid.net and click on search events and type in the error code.

You stated you can ping all hosts. I assume you mean all the internal computers. If this is the case, all ip information should be fine. I would start checking for access issues and make sure the correct services are running.

For the printer, did you setup a print server on a machine and connect the other computer through that machine, or did you setup a tcp/ip port directly to the printer from each computer?

You can try \\computername\C$
It should come up and ask you for a username and password for the connection. Use the administrator account on the computer tour connecting to.

Post back if it doesn't work and we will dig a little deeper

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by JohnGreer In reply to Losing wireless/wired Win ...

I had the same problem, it was driving me NUTS. turns out TWO of my neighbors just bought wireless routers and they used the default installation options too. (I found this out when I asked the wireless card to scan for a signal - much to my surprise it found THREE).

Have you tried changing channels and/or adding Encryption.

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I have my own setup and run encryption too.

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