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Making Changes

By jtm44757 ·
Hello All!
I have decided after 11 years in this industry to begin studying Visual Basic, C++, JAVA, HTML, and Oracle. I have primarily been working with desktops and laptops. I repair the hardware and software issues that arise day to day. But I am so bored. How should I approach this change? I have been told that classes are useless and I have an instructor friend who is going to suggest some excellent books. I need to make this change so I stay up to date in the industry and continue to bemarketable. I work for a great corporation who is willing to help me meet these goals, although getting them to pay for this "knowledge upgrade" can be tough! "Pay" as in giving me a raise.


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Say What?

by dwatts In reply to Making Changes

--I have been told that classes are useless.--

This takes some explaining. Why would a class be "useless?" There are some good classes out there - any CTEC could help you. I'm not sure why someone would simply say they're "useless."

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Useless Class Clarification

by jtm44757 In reply to Say What?

I believe this instructor was saying that his experience with the classes weren't very rewarding. He believes he has some great books that would better benefit me.

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Go for the web

by doc_howell In reply to Useless Class Clarificati ...

The Web is the thing. If you want to be marketable, the Internet is and will be the hot area for development and implementation for the next few years. I'd work on HTML, XML, DHTML and probably JAVA. Do you have your own website? If not, build one, enhance it, soup it up, make it the best darned web site on the Internet. Everything and I mean everything will be web based in the near future.

Good luck.

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Thanks Doc!

by jtm44757 In reply to Go for the web

I will pursue those things...shouldn't I have Oracle on top of all of this? Do you think pursuing VB and C ++ would be an added benefit? I really appreciate your helpful comments.

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All knowledge is valuable

by slycoder In reply to Thanks Doc!

Anything you learn will be a benefit to your career. What I do is determine what the company needs (in terms of a programmer, web developer, analyst, etc.) find out who has traveled the path you desire (and is HAPPY with the transition) and determine if the same path is right for you. If not, determine how you can get the same results. I'm a programmer from the old school (Borland C, Qbasic) moving on to higher areas (HTML, JavaScript, ASP, C++ Visual Basic, VB for Apps) and different methods work for different people.

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What 4?

by donq In reply to Making Changes

Anyone can study anything and you never state what younwant to do? If is master databases (oracle is a database) purchase a boook and begin. If its to study programming languages (VB, C++, JAVA, and/or HTML) pick 1 and become an expert in it. There are already millions of programmers that know enough about many languages to get into trouble, and few that develop the cexpertise to work theor own way out. What language doed Oracle use? yhy not study that?

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What 4? and Others

by jtm44757 In reply to What 4?

Thanks again all! I would like to get involved with anything WEB based. I know that is still very broad. Until I start tinkering with it I really only have that for an answer. I was told that if I study JAVA, HTML, and such that I need a database totie it all together. Oracle was suggested and I am surrounded by Oracle gurus just waiting to help me. I know I may be loading a lot of extra work on myself, but I am ready for it! Bottom line, I have been a hardware/software deskside tech for yearsand it is getting harder to get well paid for it. We are almost a dying bread in many ways. Programming, creating, these things excite me and put the fire back in my career focused mind and heart. I am a poet and just don't know it. :-)

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Pace yourself

by doc_howell In reply to What 4? and Others

If you have good Oracle expertise on hand to draw from then great, use that. Don't let your enthusiasim to get into all of it overload you. Your goal should be to become proficeint in at least ONE thing. It doesn't hurt to shop the stores but you really can only wear one pair of pants at a time, comfortably at least. As a previous poster said, there are plenty of so-so programmers that know some of a lot of languages but a true expert is a rare and valuable commodity. For instance are you as proficeint with MACs as your are with PCs? And would those be AMD, Cyrix and Intel PC's. Do you know them all? The point being, focus on the one thing you have the best shot at learning very well and then let that knowledge feed your entry into other areas. You will find that knowing one thing very well simplifies the others to make them easier to pick up. Good luck again and if you ever write a really cool computer game, I want a free copy.

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been there done that

by T. E. Walker In reply to Making Changes

After doing primarily desktop and network support, 2 years ago I wound up doing software dev and integration for dynamically generated database driven web content and testing. Now, there's a switch. Here is the thing about that, though - its what the company I was doing desktop support for needed. I started out by doing some scut work with the sw dept, and tailored my learning focus on what was needed for what we do here. Rather than "pick a direction" and go off there, is there any department doing something you might be interested in doing? If so, try to do some work on projects with them. Make it clear you are interested in learning. Management has supported me in changing my direction - with good fortune and careful presentation, yours will also. Good luck!

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