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Manager trying to access inappropriate sites - teen forums / porn

By kcross ·
Hi guys,

Bit of a tricky situation here. One of our (ageing) managers is trying to access teen sites such as rate my body etc, he appears to have an acount set up on several teen forums (we reports from the websweeper when access is denied). The IT policy clearly states that internet access and email may be monitored so I am happy that the company is within their rights to discipline him. I have spoken to the HR Director who has asked me to monitor it for a while longer. BUT before we confront him is there anything else that we should consider?

Thanks

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Report him to the police

by The Ref In reply to Manager trying to access ...

If the teen forums indicate illegal activities then report him to the police. There should be zero tolerance on child predators.
If his actions are not illegal (like over 18 sites) then he should be dealt with via company diciplinary actions if warranted.

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idiots reply

by moondookie In reply to Report him to the police

report him to the police? U r an idiot IT person!!

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everyone is entitled to an opinion

by techiemikee In reply to idiots reply

don't be overzealous, bashing others can get you unwanted attention.

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Idiots reply

by jacksdaddy1 In reply to idiots reply

I do not completely agee with Mr.moondookie. It is the "IT" part of the sentence that I disagree with, otherwise I am in accord. There are many many innocuous forums on the net targeting a teen audience. It seems that the rush to judgment seems to concern the managers age, and the narrow minded views on age appropriate behavior. The over-reaction about child porn is totally out of line. If your run of the mill teen visited these sites, it would attract not so much as a second glance or disapproval. Now, if there is a written rule stating proscribed types of web sites, then censure is in order.

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Are you really that stupid ?.

by edouarda In reply to Idiots reply

First and formost the last thing the company needs is to be involved in a public crimnal prosecution that could involve everyone in that dept so think about the lawyer fees that you conpny will generate if you are involed in that mess, in addition to the nasty publicity you will get. and what if you are wrong ?. what if he was looking for something up for his daughter or nice and turns out it was innocent or worse yet has a logical explanation ?. then you may face a law suit from him. You should be real carefull to just get rid of him for nonperformance not for abuse

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Learn to read

by The Ref In reply to idiots reply

If you had at least average comprehension skills, you would have seen where I said "If the teen forums indicate illegal activities"

Calling someone else an idiot is usually the sign of being one.

Grow up and get a grip on reality.

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A bit touchy

by jacksdaddy1 In reply to Learn to read

My my, I see that we are a bit sensitive to having our judgment held up to question. Could it be that for you that is a common state of affairs? Thus you have gotten a bit tired of always being second guessed and criticized? As for "Calling someone else an idiot is usually the sign of being one." That is a twist of logic that is a bit tortured to say the least. Perhaps your logic is as flawed as your judgment

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Calling the Police too soon does the following . . .

by techiemikee In reply to A bit touchy

Suppose you call the police before you determined a crime has been committed or who actually has committed the crime and they come out but don?t know how to make heads or tails of the log files(**** experienced admins struggle with it more often than they admit) but in the interest of public safety they would rather arrest a suspected perv than leave one roaming free, after all guilt and innocence is decided in a court of law.

The media outlets run with the story, so now everyone knows the guy is a perv and XYZ Corp employed him.

The guy loses his wife, his job, no decent attorney will represent him and if they would he couldn't afford them, the neighborhood is quiet because the parents are keeping the kids indoors and the company experiences irreparable bad press.

Later they determine that it wasn't the guy it was either someone on the cleaning crew or worm infecting his machine and the guy is exonerated of all charges over a mistake. The newspaper runs a one line retraction on the back page, the channel news is featuring an expose? on rat turds in restaurant food and their 30 minute segment is too full to retract and the guy has to find a way to put his life back together with everyone wandering if he actually did it meanwhile the company is fighting to keep it's customer base in a competitive market labeled as the home of the perv.

I think child predators and molesters should be shot but we should make sure the firing squad is aiming at the right person and that the one up against the wall deserves it.

"Idiots reply", what is this a school playground?

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Explendid answer

by manuel.amaro In reply to Calling the Police too so ...

Until now I didn't saw anyone troubled with the company and all the IT Administrators are paid to keep it out of things like those.
The better aproach is to block that kind of sites, buy some sort of filter, several anti-virus software have one of those.
(Our company bought an hardware appliance from our anti-virus that works swell)
You aren't a policeman nor a judge neither a puritan, you are an IT person. It's your job to prevent that users could use the company's infraestructure to harm it.

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Half the Battle

by techiemikee In reply to Explendid answer

At one of the companies I contract for, I give a new hire orientations on policies. One thing I make sure is loud and clear is the statement that ?If you perform illegal activities on the company network, I will find out and I will prosecute?. I don?t cite examples I don?t elaborate, the statement is self explanatory.

I maintain content filters and I could spend my entire day tweaking and refining and testing it, placing ACL?s on the routers, writing rules for the firewall, eliminating analog lines in cubicles and offices, ensuring that GSM broadband wireless cards aren?t used inappropriately I could make the environment so damn sanitized that they wouldn?t even be able to browse this forum because of the title of the page, but the way I see it, we suspect someone may be trying to access a teen sites. Maybe the guy is trying to check up on his daughter?s post, maybe he?s trying lure a youth. Do you just say as long ?as it doesn?t happen here it is not my problem?? It?s fairly common knowledge that child predators have a mental disease that they can neither control nor stop. If you placed safeguards in your network and prevented it from occurring then good for you, you?ve done half the battle but what if the guy really is a pedophile? You have an obligation to society not to mention you co-workers to determine what his motives are. That may actually mean securing the workstation so you can prove the chain of custody remains intact, and lowering the restrictions on the content filter.

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