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By omb70 ·
I'm confused ;o)... I don't understand Microsoft licensing! The network I want to build:

3 x servers
- 1 x SBS 2003 server (PDC, Exchange & Fax): new system
- 1 x 2003 server (Windows Terminal & Application Server): new system
- 1 x 2000 server (File & Print server): existing system

14 x workstations
- 7 x XP Pro (existing systems)
- 7 x W2K Pro (existing systems)

Requirements:
- There are 11 users (3 of the users will use a workstation & their own laptop on this network).
- Each of the users will use the Terminal Server & its installed Apps.
- Each of the users will access the SBS 2003 & W2K file/print server, either directly through their terminal clients or perhaps directly to local shares/resources through drive mapping.

Some of the questions I can't answer:
1. How many server licenses (CALs) do I need to purchase? Any come free?
2. How many terminal service licenses do I need to purchase? Any come free?
3. What licensing mode do I use on each server?
4. Would my licensing change if the Terminal server was a W2K server?
5. What's the best way of managing these licenses on the network?

Any comments & links on this whole licensing issue would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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depends

by pgm554 In reply to Microsoft Licensing / CAL ...

XP and W2k(I think) came with free TS licenses built in.

When you moved to TS on W2K3 these licenses became no good and have to be upgraded.

So if you run TS on your W2K box,you should be set in terms of licensing.

Ya wanna save some money and clean up your licensing:

Novell Small Business Server 6.5
Comes with everything equivelent that SBS 2003 does(Groupware, Fax,backup,desktop management)

Comes out of the box with 2 server cluster licenses and can be scaled to 6.
You can have as many servers as you want.
Has a free LDAP connector (dirxml)that would allow you to sync users and groups with the W2K/3 servers AD.
I would use the W2K server for TS and use the Novell boxes for everthing else.

$475 bucks list for a 5 user 2 server cluster license.(up to 6 non-clustered servers allowed).

Novell doesn't care how many servers there are ,only the user count.(100 for Novell as opposed to 75 for M$)With M$ ony one server allowed in the tree NO TRUSTS ALLOWED!

SBS 2003 Premium (which is the equivelent of SBS 6.5)costs $1600 for the same license count.


http://www.novell.com/products/smallbiz/features.html

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Your OK

by jhansen In reply to Microsoft Licensing / CAL ...

each copy of server comes with 5 CALs. You need one cal for each connection to the server at the same time. If your 10 users is connecting to 3 servers all the time at the same time then you will need 10 for each server. if 10 users will be connecting to a random server then you will need to cover anything over 5 simultanous connections to that server. Terminal server has two licenses that are included with each copy of server. If more then two people are connecting to the terminal server at once, they will get booted. So to restate, you need to buy licenses for any server that will have more then 5 simulanous connections, or more then two terminal connections.

hope this helps.

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clarification

by marcg In reply to Your OK

I just wanted to clarify that what jhansen is talking about is the per server licensing mode which sounds like is the one you will want. If you wanted to do the per user/device, you would have to get a CAL for the maximum number of users/devices that are going to access any of your resources.

Since user base is pretty small, I don't think there would be much of a difference going to either per server or per user/device. Although I typically recommend the per server for most server setups.

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