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    Microsoft’s Windows 10 Fraud

    by asfdjhasdnsflfasld ·

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    Microsoft announced an end of support for Windows 10 although they publicly stated that there will be no newer Windows version and they will only update Windows 10. Isn’t this a fraud, false advertising or something else illegal? (Assuming there will be no free update to Windows 11. If Microsoft already announced that please let me know.)

    (English is not my native language so I am not sure if “fraud” is the right word.)

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    • #2415269
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      The End Of Life for Windows is no secret.

      by rproffitt ·

      In reply to Microsoft’s Windows 10 Fraud

      I can tell folk were upset over the end of XP, 7 and Vista (not as much, sorry Vista.)

      If you are upset about 10, can you tell us about how you feel about the end for all the other OSes such as Linux?

      • #2415268

        But they literally said there will be no end of life this time

        by asfdjhasdnsflfasid ·

        In reply to The End Of Life for Windows is no secret.

        It is not about being angry. I prefer Linux so I don’ care. But they literally lied about their product.

        Of course OSes die after some time (as any other software) but they said they will update it forever as their final OS. The reason you can not compare this to other OSes is because other companies don’t make such claims.

        • #2415266
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          Where was this claim made?

          by rproffitt ·

          In reply to But they literally said there will be no end of life this time

          Years ago I read Microsoft Product Life Cycle on Windows 10 and there was no mention for support forever.

          Can you share a document from Microsoft about forever?

          Remember this is the end of support. It doesn’t mean it’s dead and gone. Example? I have some friends that still boot old DOS machines. End of support doesn’t mean you can’t use it.

          As to Linux, there is the same end of support for many versions. It is the same here.

        • #2415265

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          by asdfadfsafda ·

          In reply to Where was this claim made?

          “Right now we’re releasing Windows 10, and because Windows 10 is the LAST VERSION of Windows, we’re all still working on Windows 10,”

          “Recent comments at Ignite about Windows 10 are reflective of the way Windows will be delivered as a service BRINGING NEW INNOVATIONS AND UPDATES IN AN ONGOING MANNER, with continuous value for our consumer and business customers,”

          https://www.pcmag.com/news/windows-10-the-last-version-of-windows
          https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows

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          OK, they didn’t say “support forever” but they said that it is the “last version” which “will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner”.

          (I am intentionally ignoring everything not quoted from the article.)

          I of course know end of support doesn’t mean you can not use it. It doesn’t for (almost) any software. But it means you should not officially use it because of no security updates. And they promised “last version” with “updates in an ongoing manner.”

          Linux is not a good comparison because it is free. Being OS is not the important aspect. The important aspects are being a proprietary software and paid once (not monthly or yearly).

        • #2415264
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          The truth is out there.

          by rproffitt ·

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          Windows 11 is not named yet. Rumor has it will not be called “Windows.” So Windows 10 may indeed be the last version of Windows.

          Time will tell.

          As to Linux I’ve seen folk melt down over the end of versions.

          As to not use it, or should not use it, isn’t that our choice?

        • #2415263
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          More on Linux.

          by rproffitt ·

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          I’m finding it harder to find 32 bit versions.

        • #2415262
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          In regards to 32 bit Linux,

          by Wizard57M-TR ·

          In reply to More on Linux.

          I as well have noticed a dearth of releases, though some of the Puppy Linux folks do try. The biggest issue I’m seeing is not so much lack of 32 bit kernels, but the web browsers dropping 32 bit support in Linux. I’ll keep plugging along as best I can with ScPup though!
          As for Windows…sheesh, it’s past due for a new version as far as I’m concerned. 5 years since it’s release…let’s see Apple match that one!
          In regards to fraud/false advertisement…that’s BS and you know it “OP”! I’m suspicious of your chosen user name…sounds like a troll to me, so be warned! For the record…I’m currently booted into Windows XP SP3 on my old Acer Aspire Netbook! Yep, and it’s only capable of running 32 bit OSes…I’ve been around various networks, WWW, internet, what have you for nigh on 40 years now…never once infected by malware, even when I had a suspicious bunch of stuff in quarantine for “research” purposes.
          Wiz 😉

    • #2415238
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      No matter what has or not been said….

      by birdmantd ·

      In reply to Microsoft’s Windows 10 Fraud

      There is absolutely no case of “Fraud” by Microsoft in my opinion. Poor choice of words. That’s all I have to say in the matter.

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