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By silvioandpauly ·
I have a resume on Monster. I've gotten a few 'nibbles' on the resume, and they always ask me to send my resume.

Question - If they already have it from Monster, why do they ask me to send it? Is it because they'd like it in Word format?

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Could Be...

by radiic In reply to Monster and other job sit ...

Could be there way of screwing with your head. You would think that since they already have it why would you need to send it, but maybe they want to see if you send an updated, one, or bother with a cover letter. **** maybe the guy likes your resume so much he wants a copy in word format so he can cut your name/paste his. ]:)

Could be some technical reason too. Ill ask my wife, she works in the HR field.

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There is a reason

by Jcritch In reply to Could Be...

1) A word version of the resume allows it to be posted in corporate H/R databases.

2) A new resume in word format that includes up to date projects and other accomplishments is a good idea. I would note the new accomplishments so they are able to see you are still achieving.

3) The "Team Resume Review" a word document allows them to send your resume to the team and allows each to comment.


Hang in there, at least you are receiving nibbles, I know some who have not heard anything except from the life insurance companies!

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Formatting

by angry_white_male In reply to Monster and other job sit ...

Monster usually e-mails your resume in a text format - doesn't look that good. A nicely formatted resume they can print out on a single page makes a big difference.

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Here's what I'm thinking as the hiring manager

by DC_GUY In reply to Monster and other job sit ...

You put that resume out on Monster hoping to appeal to the maximum number of potential hiring managers. Therefore, you left out all the little details that might be important to only one specific pair of eyes and would bore everyone else.

Now that you know what job you're applying for, it's time to put that stuff back in.

The old rule about keeping your resume down to a couple of pages still applies in a milieu like Monster. But when you're filing for a specific job, tell me everything you can that's pertinent. You have to differentiate yourself from the pack and make me want to call you in for an interview. I want to sit down with an interesting resume and feel like I'm enjoying reading it. I'll certainly remember the person who wrote it and want to meet them.

The resume you send me because I ask for it won't be the same one I pulled off the Monster Board. At least it had better not be! This is a test!

Also, like many managers I am absolutely fed up with techies who have marginal communication and other people skills. You may have paid someone to dress up that Monster resume, but the one you send me you'll have to write yourself, and it will be a good bit longer. I'll have more of an opportunity to see if you can write or communicate at all, and also to get a "reading" on you.

Sure, maybe you'll get your wife to polish it. Mine has an M.A. in English so I always do that on anything important. But if you're smart and humble enough to ask for that kind of help, I can work with you. At least our wives will get along. ^_^

BTW, beware of resume services. I have yet to see an outsourced resume that didn't need a good line-edit if not worse. If you spend your hard-earned money to get a resume done professionally and it comes back with bonehead errors that you can catch yourself just by looking in a style manual, I immediately know that you have terrible judgment. Your criteria for trusting people are no good. Do I want you working for me?

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I could not agree more

by neal.brown In reply to Here's what I'm thinking ...

Resume never achieves perfect buzz-word match. Position is never as advertised. Tech employees are many times exploited by non-techie managers.

The latter can often be blamed on poor communication skills of the techie, but after 25 years I grew tired of being told to stay in my little box when wanting to make a difference for the corporation. I now run a software company where I have responsibility for how I provide business value to my customers and could not be happier.

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This is only a test...

by Amused... In reply to Here's what I'm thinking ...

Well, you certainly would have been disappointed in my resume, then. I created it myself and am responsible for all edits.
Most who have requested a resume from me wanted a WORD document as all the resume's I posted online are in ascii format and WORD provides a readable format instead of a format suitable for keyword scanning programs.
Of course, I am probably making the mistake of assuming you are seeking a qualified person and not someone to provide you with a cheap 'good read'. I also find it mildly pathetic that you use a source with a MA in English to help you when it counts but you are perfectly willing to penalize the poor soul who isn't married to your spouse and can use her free services.
Of course, you could just be a troll trying to get a rise out of a bunch of geeks.
If you are, in fact, a manager and are laying such traps to separate the chaff from the grain, why are you holding the applicants to a standard you cannot meet? Do you enjoy working for people more intelligent and articulate than yourself?
If you do, then you might wish to see a counselor to determine why you seek power over those who are intellectually superior to you.
What is your department turnover? Are you proud is is less than Wal-Marts or do you enjoy reading all the resume's looking for a good friend for your wife?
Man, I enjoyed that. I guess because I just came out of a final interview where I was asked some very personal questions, not about my qualifications. PERSONAL, I was between a rock and a hard place. Do I tell the interviewer this is a boundary issue and not at all related to the position and have that kill the interview or do I answer them and risk the interviewers perception that way? It sucked, because when I went in today the only thing we were apart on was salary. I spent the afternoon meeting and greeting the people I would be working with. Then this final interview when the personal stuff was hammered at. (nothing sexual, minds out of gutter, please) Then the interviewer asked that I keep the details of our conversation between us and not mention it to the HR rep.
Frankly, it sucks. Then I read this post from 'O Imperious One' and I have to tell you this:

I am quite articulate and I meet or exceed all of the qualifications of the job and that is the only criteria that needs be utilized. Can I perform the job?

Just damnably tired of dilettantes abusing their position.

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Abuse of position?

by The Savant In reply to This is only a test...

Dear sir,

Give me a break. Your resume is your calling card. If you can't put time into it to ensure that it's perfect, then it's a reflection of the amount of time and effort you'd spend when you aren't trying to get something important.

Ergo, if you can't present well when it counts.. (you finish it)

It's not a matter of who can do the job. I could pull 15 resumes from a submission pool of over 100 and know that I have a bunch of people who are capable. It's about who is capable and detail-oriented.

Now as far as the standards DCGuy keeps that others can't.. that's a low shot. It's not that he can't keep his standards. He's adapted such that he can achieve those standards. It's not too much to ask that he finds another person who is as adaptable.

On your own issues, it was a mistake to not advise the HR rep of illegal interview practices if they did occur. It's never a bad idea to be ethical. For all you know they were testing your ethics and not your knowledge.

If you lose the job, then you avoided being in a place that doesn't respect boundaries. No real loss. If you gained the job you may have made the workplace a better place. Or, you may have been exactly what they were looking for in the first place.

Imagine that.

(BTW.. It takes effort to present well. It takes no effort to decide to avoid thinking negatively.)

Thanks

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Why you might be asked for resume in word.

by leighdavidus In reply to This is only a test...

I've only read about half of the messages in this thread but there has been no mention of one reason a recruiting company may want a resume in word. It's been my experience that recruiting companies edit my resume to delete all identifying information about me except my name and to list their company contact information prior presenting it to a company -- It's an additional protection for them as procuring cause should employment be offered and to discourage the company from contacting me directly in this instance. I have no problem with that. I suppose they could do the same with the Monster resume but it would be more work and wouldn't look as nice.

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Hard to Read

by MaureenHBryan In reply to Here's what I'm thinking ...

While I agree with DC_Guy, there is an easier answer. Resumes are pulled out of the Monster interface are straight text, and the spacing, fonts, etc. are usually a mess, making the resume hard to read. Depending on how the text was arranged when the candidate posted their resume, it can also be hard to discern which dates and job titles go with which job description, again because of the spacing. That's why I usually ask someone that I am interested in to forward a Word resume for further consideration. This extra step is also a good way to screen out people who are not really interested in proceeding with the hiring process.

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Updates

by Oz_Media In reply to Monster and other job sit ...

I've had resumes on Monster for years, I often get people looking for service contracts but they ask for recent references and a recent resume, as they sit there for so long sometimes. A lot of people are employed and leave one online for trolling, so they always ask for something new.

Here's one for you,

A company was looking for a marketing manager a few months back and had been given my resume by another company that uses me, I sent them a written proposal and they responded asking for a recent resume, which I promptly sent them, to TWO different people.

Upon going to see them, the first thing they asked was 'got a recent resume and testimonial sheet?" I chuckled and gave them a new one, asking what they do with al the other resumes they have (I saw plastic liners in the garbage cans, no bird cage and the bathroom has enough TP). The operations manager called me the next week for a conference call, before conducting the call I needed to send a recent resue to Toronto, Montreal AND his Vancouver office again(that already had three copies now). A couple of weeks later, I was asked to resend a new propsal to the OM in Toronto, then was called to meet him a week or so later in Vancouver again....'but make sure you bring him a recent resume'. JEEZ how many damn copies do THESE guys need already?

Eventually I didn't like thier offer, they didn't like mine and we realized we had both just wasted our time.

No big deal, but I have been in a situation last year where I did actually bill a prospect for my time and charges, which included three copies of a resume.

Some people's kids!

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