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By TomSal ·
A sufficient answer to this question will be the Technet article number, I misplaced it. But anyway the problem is through gradual expansion of our company I think the network resources are being strained to much, our bandwidth is horrible (14 hubs strewn about a 6500 sq. foot office building - yes, it was against my advice, no I wasn't the one who designed the network like this). With such a pitiful physical design now it takes the newer employees 5-7 tries before this NT 4.0 network logs themin. Yet, older accounts - employees who've been here for 2 years or more, they log in with little to no trouble at all. Why is this? Are my assumptions of a horrible network design on the money?

Thanks.

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by savatovic In reply to Multiple logon attempts n ...

Hi Tomsal,
Yes, you are on the right track. The design as you describe is horrible indeed. If you need a proof, it is learned on the Networking Essentials course (which is mandatory for MCSE certification). So grab a book and show it to your boss.
Take special care about cascading hubs and remember rule 4-3-2 (4 segments, 3 hubs, 2 segmets with active equipment). Also note the max segment length (approx 100m or 300 feet). Perhaps you can get out of this **** if you replace some hubs with switches (it shouldn't be so expensive these days).

Perhaps your older employees were connected closer to the server.

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by TomSal In reply to Multiple logon attempts n ...

Thanks for confirming my professional assumption. Sometimes we just need a "nod" from our peers, being the lone Networking "guy" here I have to seek out peers in formats like this.
BTW, I am already an MCSE, the bad part here is top brass stillignore even when I show them the books. Thanks.

Take care.

-Tom

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by mpdcsup In reply to Multiple logon attempts n ...

I'm not sold on the idea that your cable plant is at fault -- how would you explain an older user account, all else being equal, logging in more quickly?

How do you create users? From scratch? Or, do you copy an existing user account? Are you using roaming profiles?

What specific error does the newer employee receive in the first 4-6 tries?

Over time, policy changes (both administrative and NT domain) can cause a user's configuration to become "wedged" (customized in ways that are no longer possible to re-create).

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by dayd1 In reply to Multiple logon attempts n ...

I don't know if this will help, but try deleting the user's profile that is having the problem and then relog them on. This will rebuild their profile. Profiles cause all sorts of strange problems.

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