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My CD-ROM Drive is Eating My Children!

By redshift ·
Well, maybe it's not that bad, but I just upgraded my PC from a 440BX, Slot 1 platform to an AMD Athlon 850 supported by a Gigabyte GA-7ZX (Rev 5), and now my Mitsumi 40x CD-ROM drive is misbehaving.

The bahaviour is intermittant, depending on the CD inserted, and it does not affect home-burned CD's. It will spin up the CD, and during that time I can browse the CD, run apps off of it, etc., but then it makes a whining noise like the read head is jumping from one end of the CD to the other, the CD, spins down, spins back up, makes the read head noise again, spins down, ad nauseum.

CD's affected include the Drivers CD that came with the mainboard, Quake 3 Arena, and WordPerfect 2000. No Microsoft wares are affected (like Win98, Office 2000, Visio).

The worst part is, I've already tried another CD-ROM Drive, I've reformatted the HDD and reloaded the OS, I've updated the BIOS, I've downloaded and installed the latest Via 4-in-1 drivers, tried multiple read-ahead and speed optimization settings in the Windows system setup, I actually located and downloaded drivers for the drive and installed those, I've memorized the entire BIOS, and I've contacted the vendors(mainboard and CD-ROM drive, both say it's the other's fault)responsible for this crap.

Any suggestions?

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by Stillatit In reply to My CD-ROM Drive is Eating ...

These are longshots.

1. Check the BIOS under power management. There may be some stupid setting attempting to save power by shutting down after some small time period.

2. While you are looking at the BIOS, check for any strange IDE settings onwhichever controller you are running the CD on.

3. Are you slaving the CD on the same cable as your hard disk, or is it on a separate controller? Whichever it is, try the other.

4. If your new board is ATA-66 or more, you may need the new low-noise cables. In any case, I would try replacing the cable.

5. If you copy a CD that causes this behavior, does the copy also cause the behavior? (If not, it is a bizzare workaround.)

6. You have probably done this, but if not, clean the lens.
Good luck.

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by redshift In reply to My CD-ROM Drive is Eating ...

Thanks for the suggesions, the best of which is the workaround - wouldn't it suck to have to copy new CD's before they work?

Anyhow, the BIOS isn't all that I wish it was, so the cornucopia of settings that I grew used to with my last mainboard.
I tried the enhanced IDE cable, and it told me that it couldn't find the KRNL32 on Windows boot! Yikes, so I went back to the standard IDE cable, and it was fine.

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by redshift In reply to My CD-ROM Drive is Eating ...

Additional info and stuff I've tried:

The CD in the master on the 2ndary IDE with a Zip100 as the slave, but I've removed the Zip 100 from the chain, and even swapped the CD-ROM/zip master/slave settings to no avail.

I've set up the CD-ROM drive as a slave to my Primary Master HDD.

I've killed the protected mode drivers and added real-mode drivers to the config.sys, and mscdex'd it in the autoexec.bat. (As a side bar, System applett never reports that there is a real mode driver, hmmmm . . .)

I've toggled the DMA mode on and off - no difference.

I cleaned the lense (a good suggestion, but it still didn't work), checked all cable connections, and verified all of my jumpers.

What did I miss?

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by dcraun In reply to My CD-ROM Drive is Eating ...

I had nothing but problems with a Mitsumi CD-Drive. Kept trying new decivce drivers, nothing helped. Ended up getting a Sony CD-Drive, been happy ever since.

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My CD-ROM Drive is Eating My Children!

by redshift In reply to My CD-ROM Drive is Eating ...

I don't want to spend any more money, I had to lie to the wife about how much I paid to begin with!

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by shmaltz In reply to My CD-ROM Drive is Eating ...

As I understand from you question, you dont have the problem with all the CD's only with some of them. Meaning the problem is the media not the Drive.
Sounds like the CD's you are having problems with are either:
1. Scracthed, or:
2. Dirty, or:
3. The top of the CD is scracthed.
If its dirty wipe it clean if its scratched then:
1. If the bottom (the side where the drive reads from) is scratched then try copying the files on the local Hard Drive then write it onto a new CD, or spread it over a few Zip disks.
2. If the top is scratched the there is no way that the drive should be able to read the data on the spot where its scratched, since the top (the printed part of the CD) contains the burned tracks of the CD's data.

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My CD-ROM Drive is Eating My Children!

by redshift In reply to My CD-ROM Drive is Eating ...

All of my CD's are spotless, I'm talking straight out of the shrink wrap!

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by Paul D. Masley In reply to My CD-ROM Drive is Eating ...

First, Set the CD up as master on your secondary IDE port. Do not put it as a slave on your primary IDE. This CD is more than likely a MODE 2, maybe a MODE 3 Drive or a 33. The board that you bought probally has a 133 meg front bus speed. This is your bottleneck. The CD cannot handle the excessive speed of the bus. You did not say what type of harddrive you were using. This board requires an ATA drive of 66 or better.

Now, go to the bios, hardrive set up, and look through IDE Drive settings. Disable the slave on the primary and then go to the secondary master port settings. If you see a mode two, three or 33 set it as such. Then disable the slave on the secondary. By the way the ATA 66/100 cables will not work on this drive.Too much input/output again. Also, make sure that the IRQ setting for the primary and secondary are on 14 and 15. This should get the Mitsumi running at its actual speed of about 26X.

Good Luck!

Paul.

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by redshift In reply to My CD-ROM Drive is Eating ...

Is there a such thing as an ATA66 CD-ROM drive?

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by redshift In reply to My CD-ROM Drive is Eating ...

I'm starting to think that this has to do with the chipset, I have had this problem with other PC's and the VIA chipset, whether upgraded or factory fresh.

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